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Is being against something just a fashion?
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Countless times I have seen guys walking around in 'anti-Bush' tops and heard people moan about him at any opportunity. However, when i asked them WHY they hated him all i got was something along the lines of 'hes a d*** head'. Now, either they are just so annoyed with him that they can't express themselves or, they really don't know.

Lately I have begun to think that being against something is less of an opinion and more of a 'statement'.
Another example is how people moan at Christmas about how it is commercialised now. The three people that said this to me last year, where the ones that spent the most money on Christmas presents and he most time shopping in general.

I think this applies to many things now: being against fur, fox hunting or eating meat. I especially think it turns up a lot in political ideas- with people agreeing with the general idea yet not knowing any facts behind it.
Am i just being stereotypical or do you think this is a valid idea?
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Apologies for posting on my own page, my lady. I'll remember to visit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw&eurl=

Might have posted more but ZZzzz.
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Why would you walk around in a anti-bush t-shirt? O_O I live in the states but you don't see me wearing one?
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^ You see alot here in the UK! That's why i feel it is more of a fashion than an opinion.
You can get hoodies with anti-bush slogans on easily.
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Yeah I agree. The shirts were probably just made for profit. O_O The makers probably don't even care about the issue.
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maybe it's the post-post-modern confusion with ourselves.
our legitimate concern is muffled by our own laziness and lack of power to make real change
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hhj wrote:

maybe it's the post-post-modern confusion with ourselves.
our legitimate concern is muffled by our own laziness and lack of power to make real change


What do you mean lack of power to make real change? Does anything need to be changed that needs your immediate attention?
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Human rights violations, there's something that needs attention.

Think less about "fashion" and don't up and follow a cause without knowing all the sides about it beforehand (it's easy to be biased for the stupidest of reasons).
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Posted 2/11/07
err...people wearing shirts saying 'I hate bush' in the U.K
honestly wtf?
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blind51de wrote:

Human rights violations, there's something that needs attention.

Think less about "fashion" and don't up and follow a cause without knowing all the sides about it beforehand (it's easy to be biased for the stupidest of reasons).


Yeah thats true.

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naruto9817 wrote:


blind51de wrote:

Human rights violations, there's something that needs attention.

Think less about "fashion" and don't up and follow a cause without knowing all the sides about it beforehand (it's easy to be biased for the stupidest of reasons).


Yeah thats true.



indeed.
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I like that vid that Eros posted, sums about what you're talking about nicely.

It's basically "the emperor's new clothes" (link for the uneducated masses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes , sad I should feel it necessary) - may people jump on the bandwagon and seldom stop and asks if they should. And god forbid you disagree with the status quo. Then it's not necessarily the situation that's wrong - it's you.

Sometimes it's just popular to hate certain things. Sometimes there is just cause, alot of time there isn't. You see this alot in entertainment. Certain artists, or films seem to be the target of hatred. Like the film "Constantine" - critics hated it, viewers spoke poorly of it, but I thought it was a perfectly fine movie when I went to see it. It may not have been like the comic, but it was still a well done film for whatever liberties it took for the source material. Now take for example "Matchstick Men" or "Adaptation" - critics were jizzing their pants over these movies. I saw them and decided they were terrible. I don't trust critics anymore. Sure I read reviews alot, but I view them as one man's oppinion, not necessarily my own.

But there is an odd sort of line there. I remember hearing someone describe it like this - just because you happen to think the Mona Lisa is a bad piece of art doesn't mean that it is, it means you have poor taste in art. It has been judged and rejudged for hundreds of years and found to be a masterpiece.

So I think it's important to take notice of established oppinions and the status quo, but don't necessarily buy into just because everyone else seems to be. I think what it boils down to is it's perfectly fine to agree or disagree as long as you know why your doing such. A key thing is to view things objectively with as little bias as possible. I used to be very biased in everything I observed, now I'm alot less so after having seen quite a bit of the world.

What was it Thoreau said... something like "I regret that I am not as wise as when first I was born." Meaning completley free of bias and prejudice, capable of viewing the world as it is, instead of as you are told it is.
Posted 2/12/07
I'd say it is very common for people to be dissatisfied with something yet fall short of their goals. Yet there are guys that will go to great lengths to get the attention of girls, and girls that will go too far to find a fresh source of guys. And what makes activists "easy targets"?

1. Activists tend to be liberal, which means open minded, which means loose morals, which means easy lovin'.
2. People who are actually aware and involved in social movements tend to be intelligent. Intelligence suggests potential wealth.
3. People who believe that pinning a button on your shirt and standing somewhere for a couple hours will actually change the world are very idealistic. Idealistic people have very sensitive "buttons" and can be manipulated easily.
4. Tensions are high at demonstrations. A fast beating heart helps people feel alive; the ultimate aphrodesiac.

I'm not saying there are a lot of people hunting at protests, because there are plenty who have good intentions but no discipline or personal motivation to keep them in the fight. But the mating game makes people do silly things.
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That video was funny. It does prove a good point though.
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LOL anti bush i'm anti california govenor arnold (umm yeah the last name) lol i like him in movies than a govenor "I'LL be BACK"
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