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Mind over matter
Posted 6/6/08
yea i tried levatating off my bed and step on sum tacks oh and i tried withstanding a kick in the gonads
yea call david blaine
jk
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u always post weird threads


i know. i been noticin dat
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How many threads do you post?

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umm ever hear the the move called "the secret" or sumthing like that. pretty much its preaches this kinda thing. if u think u can do it it will happen. but i dont believe this bullshit tho
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u always post weird threads


she does
Posted 6/7/08
when i read that phrase the first thing that comes to my mind is magic..dunno why..hehe
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YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?

Posted 6/7/08

chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .
Posted 6/7/08 , edited 6/7/08
I might have. I remember one time when my dad slapped me, I kept thinking, "Wow, that doesn't hurt. That totally did not hurt," and it didn't hurt. Then, I thought, "But it should hurt. I'm sure it does hurt," and I started to feel the sting.
I want to try doing it again.


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who the fuck cares about mao zedong..he brought communism in shheesh


Yea, we're discussing mind over matter here. Not Mao Zedong.
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Posted 6/7/08

YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .


with 20 feet charcoal fire walking wouldn't you be toasted?

Posted 6/7/08

chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .


with 20 feet charcoal fire walking wouldn't you be toasted?




and again. . . yes
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Posted 6/7/08

YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .


with 20 feet charcoal fire walking wouldn't you be toasted?




and again. . . yes


yeah, i was just wondering how those magicians do it over and over again.

Posted 6/7/08

chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .


with 20 feet charcoal fire walking wouldn't you be toasted?



i did a little research and this what i got


Heat is also transmitted by conduction when two things touch and this form of transmission is the most relevant to firewalking because it is the soles of the walker's feet that come in contact with the hot coals. Conduction happens when energetic molecules, the hot coals, that are vibrating collide with more sedate molecules, the soles of the feet, thereby transferring energy to them, but the thermal conductivity of coarse charcoal is very small and that of skin or flesh is only about four times more. By comparison the thermal conductivity of most metals is several thousand times larger, metals conduct heat well, but non-metals such as charcoal or skin do not. Additionally, not all of the foot is in contact the whole time, because of the coarseness of the charcoal and how the foot is placed when walking. The foots arch seems to be where most people blister other than between the toes.
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Posted 6/7/08

chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .


with 20 feet charcoal fire walking wouldn't you be toasted?




and again. . . yes


yeah, i was just wondering how those magicians do it over and over again.



To me it seems that if one were to walk at a constant speed and did not linger long upon the coals, then the heat can be somewhat tolerated, even to the point of lack of expression (facial). Besides, what if the guys who constantly do these tricks have calloused feet? Too many lurking variables have an influence on the matter, so this mind over matter deal can just be one of many reasons why the "magicians" are able to perform such a feat.
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Posted 6/7/08

cloax0desu wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:


YojimboMifune wrote:


chinky_sonny wrote:

Do you have any experience on mind over matter? How does it work?


Mind over matter was Mao Zedong's idea that rural peasants could be "proletarianized" so they could lead the revolution and China could move from feudalism to socialism. It departs from Leninism in that the revolutionaries are peasants, instead of the urban proletariat.

"Mind over matter" was also a phrase popularized during the 1960s and 1970s. It originally was used in reference to paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception and psychokinesis. However, it has also been used in reference to mind-centric spiritual and philosophic doctrines such as responsibility assumption. It is the belief that the mind is more powerful than the body. Specifically, mind over matter refers to controlling pain that you may or may not be experiencing, such as holding your hand under extremely hot water and feeling no pain. Also, "self-help" personalities such as Tony Robbins claim that, through the power of concentration and "positive thinking", people can walk on hot coals without getting burned. This claim is made despite the fact that there are solid, scientific explanations for firewalking. The phrase is present in the 2000s as well, usually used as slogan by hackers and hacker sites.


i can explain fire walking . . .

even without "mind over matter"

if you walked fast enough you will not get burned


is it the hot charcoal thing?



yes. . .


with 20 feet charcoal fire walking wouldn't you be toasted?




and again. . . yes


yeah, i was just wondering how those magicians do it over and over again.



To me it seems that if one were to walk at a constant speed and did not linger long upon the coals, then the heat can be somewhat tolerated, even to the point of lack of expression (facial). Besides, what if the guys who constantly do these tricks have calloused feet? Too many lurking variables have an influence on the matter, so this mind over matter deal can just be one of many reasons why the "magicians" are able to perform such a feat.


i guess, i am not good at this thou but it could be possible that some have super glued a skin like structure to prevent heat from conducting
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