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Posted 12/11/08

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Is this linked to Shingetsutan Tsukihime? The plot and the main character's name is the same, sans the gender of course o.O


it is slightly linked..There was a red haired woman who gave glasses to Tohno Shiki in Tsukihime...remember??? Aozaki Tohko and that woman are sisters.
Ryougi Shiki and Tohno Shiki have similar eyes.
actually there r much more interesting connections (especiaaly about families) but if i tell more it will be spoiler
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Posted 12/20/08
That was fast! They have the subbed part 4 on veoh.
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Posted 12/28/08 , edited 12/28/08
Kara no Kyoukai is an alternate parallel universe of Tsukihime... The Ryougi clan is part of the Demon Hunter Organization, the same organization that the Nanaya clan affiliate with.

There is one question that always linger in my mind.... If Zelretch has dominion over alternate possibities, why didn't he make a cameo appearance in Kara no Kyoukai or at least a mere mentioned his name?
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Posted 12/28/08 , edited 12/28/08

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I am not understanding this storyline?!? I have watched Lunar Legend Tsukihime, and realize that this is ~somehow~ related via a fan comic/novel.

1) Shiki is now (a girl?)

2) who is missing her arm (because[?).

3) Anyway, she can use her fake arm to kill spirits (why? how?).

4) Kirie is blind and has a physical body and spiritual body. She tries to make friends (by grabbing Shiki's arm and trying to throw her off the building???).

5) She does this to 7 other high school students murdering them. Then Shiki kills her spiritual being off. Kirie says this makes her feel more alive. Kirie goes and throws herself off the building to feel more alive???

6) When Kirie dies this allows Mikya to awaken from his slumber on the couch???

7) Shiki and Mikiya have an argument about ice cream and how butterflies (Shiki) can't float???



I think that I can answer some of your questions...


1) Shiki is now (a girl?)


Yes, SHIKI(masculine personality) died in an accident 2 years before...


3) Anyway, she can use her fake arm to kill spirits (why? how?).


Shiki Ryougi's prosthetic arm can't kill spirits. It's quite possible that Touko add some sort of rune crest to that arm thus making it possible to grab spirits.


4) Kirie is blind and has a physical body and spiritual body. She tries to make friends (by grabbing Shiki's arm and trying to throw her off the building???).

5) She does this to 7 other high school students murdering them. Then Shiki kills her spiritual being off. Kirie says this makes her feel more alive. Kirie goes and throws herself off the building to feel more alive???


Here's a possible answer to those questions

Her parents and younger brother died soon after she got sick and she didn't get any visitors. She wouldn't last long and has always been looking out of the window. She must have been so lonely. Although she was scared of dying, that feel of death was the only thing she was able to realize that she was alive.



6) When Kirie dies this allows Mikya to awaken from his slumber on the couch???


Kirie Fujyou's ability allow her to make a ghostly version of herself and to control spirits of other people. The death of Kirie means that Mikiya is free from her control.



Source: Type-Moon Wikia and Moonlit World

Sorry that I am unable to answer some of your question since my knowledge on Nasuverse is still incomplete.
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Posted 12/30/08 , edited 12/30/08

Maou068 wrote:

Kara no Kyoukai is an alternate parallel universe of Tsukihime... The Ryougi clan is part of the Demon Hunter Organization, the same organization that the Nanaya clan affiliate with.

to add more

but i as i know Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai takes place exactly in the same world.Fate Stay Night is an altenate parallel universe..but that might be wrong

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zoso wrote:


Maou068 wrote:

Kara no Kyoukai is an alternate parallel universe of Tsukihime... The Ryougi clan is part of the Demon Hunter Organization, the same organization that the Nanaya clan affiliate with.

to add more

but i as i know Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai takes place exactly in the same world.Fate Stay Night is an altenate parallel universe..but that might be wrong



Actually, it was mentioned in one of Nasu's interviews that Tsukihime takes place in a parallel world than that of Kara no Kyoukai, but both worlds exist in the SAME universe. The reason he gave being that there can only be one Mystic Eyes of Death Perception user per parallel world. Therefore, the Tsukihime Shiki and Rakkyo Shiki can't exist in the same world. The only way they would exist together is that one Shiki would have Death Perception while the other Shiki wouldn't have the ability at all.
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Actually, it was mentioned in one of Nasu's interviews that Tsukihime takes place in a parallel world than that of Kara no Kyoukai, but both worlds exist in the SAME universe. The reason he gave being that there can only be one Mystic Eyes of Death Perception user per parallel world. Therefore, the Tsukihime Shiki and Rakkyo Shiki can't exist in the same world. The only way they would exist together is that one Shiki would have Death Perception while the other Shiki wouldn't have the ability at all.


Can you give me a link of that interview?
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....Dude then why the hell was there Tohno Shiki and Nanaya Shiki in the same universe as Tsukihime... And both of them DID have the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception just Tohno killed 'life' while Nanaya turned on the 'Death Switch' while Ryougi turns on/kills the 'Origin' which is pretty much the fated death that you will have. ALSO then what the hell is the TATARI Nanaya he also has the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception from him using Shiki as a catalyst to get the contract with the world.

So is this not the same case as the Tohno-Nanaya thing whats different between all of them is they each 'kill' something different. Each Mystic Eyes that came from the Celtic God said in Kara no Kyoukai chapter 4 who was said to have been able to 'kill' with just looking.

And about the Demon Hunter clans..... In Red Demon God I believe it directly mentioned that the Kiri knew the Ryougi's recently just got a new decedent (Which of course is old news but the Nanaya's live in a secluded forest only go out in the night and/or if they have a mission. So even about 5 or 6 years in news too them.) As the Ryougi's as said in Kara no Kyoukai Chapter 2 have not had a true decedent for about 5 or 6 generations.

And Maou I believe that Zelretch did appear under a title in Kara no Kyoukai chapter 5 but I am not sure...

Here are the answers to the questions.


Also I have a question.... WHY the hell does Kurokiri not bother to learn the divine language I mean he can access the records of the world, fix lost memories and do all kinds of stuff yet he does not let himself learn the divine language Caster used who Shirou could have sworn had to have been doing true 'magic.' Seriously he's 'The Master of Babel' and could be the strongest Magus of all among the Magus' 'today' with his only rivals being Bartholmei and only one stronger is Zelretch.
Wait Ciel/Roa and Blackmoa may be stronger.... But then that would mean Bartholmei is also stronger...
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Posted 12/30/08

nanatsuyoru wrote:


zoso wrote:


Maou068 wrote:

Kara no Kyoukai is an alternate parallel universe of Tsukihime... The Ryougi clan is part of the Demon Hunter Organization, the same organization that the Nanaya clan affiliate with.

to add more

but i as i know Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai takes place exactly in the same world.Fate Stay Night is an altenate parallel universe..but that might be wrong




Actually, it was mentioned in one of Nasu's interviews that Tsukihime takes place in a parallel world than that of Kara no Kyoukai, but both worlds exist in the SAME universe. The reason he gave being that there can only be one Mystic Eyes of Death Perception user per parallel world. Therefore, the Tsukihime Shiki and Rakkyo Shiki can't exist in the same world. The only way they would exist together is that one Shiki would have Death Perception while the other Shiki wouldn't have the ability at all.


do u have link of that interview?
why one MEDP user per parallel world?the ones have near-death experience can acquire this ability.why only Ryougi and Nanaya? Nanaya already had a form of magical eyes from his genetic family.let's say that helped him to get eyes, then belonging Demon Hunter family helped Ryougi?



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....Dude then why the hell was there Tohno Shiki and Nanaya Shiki in the same universe as Tsukihime... And both of them DID have the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception just Tohno killed 'life' while Nanaya turned on the 'Death Switch' while Ryougi turns on/kills the 'Origin' which is pretty much the fated death that you will have. ALSO then what the hell is the TATARI Nanaya he also has the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception from him using Shiki as a catalyst to get the contract with the world.


i agree with this part


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Posted 12/31/08 , edited 12/31/08
Hmm.... I guess that my answers to those questions are wrong. Oh well, got to review everything from the start.
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Does any1 actuly know if there is an order in which this anime is watched? I DLed 5 Eps of it and they seemed all mixed up except at the end they tell me what the Next Ep is ment to be however it's totaly messed up at doesn't seem to connect with the story...
After watchin Ep 1 which was about the 7 spirits in the air and children jumpin off the buildings I then watched Ep 2 which was SKIKI and Shiki which meets the boy and she doesn't have those Death Eyes yet so wtf?!?!

So I guessed that Ep 2 was Ep 1 and then i watched next Ep and found that it connected with that first Ep which Shiki going to Hospital due to bein hit by a Car at end of Ep 1...

So now I have Ep 1 and 2 but can't seem to find Ep 3 other than watchin end part of Ep 2 which says next Ep is 1 which Shiki gets caught and this building is all messed up with dead people lol and which this Ep seems to be twice as long as all other Eps I have it's 2hours.

Anyway is there really an Order to watch this anime or is the end parts that say Next Ep is what Im ment to watch?
Posted 3/17/09

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Does any1 actuly know if there is an order in which this anime is watched? I DLed 5 Eps of it and they seemed all mixed up except at the end they tell me what the Next Ep is ment to be however it's totaly messed up at doesn't seem to connect with the story...
After watchin Ep 1 which was about the 7 spirits in the air and children jumpin off the buildings I then watched Ep 2 which was SKIKI and Shiki which meets the boy and she doesn't have those Death Eyes yet so wtf?!?!

So I guessed that Ep 2 was Ep 1 and then i watched next Ep and found that it connected with that first Ep which Shiki going to Hospital due to bein hit by a Car at end of Ep 1...

So now I have Ep 1 and 2 but can't seem to find Ep 3 other than watchin end part of Ep 2 which says next Ep is 1 which Shiki gets caught and this building is all messed up with dead people lol and which this Ep seems to be twice as long as all other Eps I have it's 2hours.

Anyway is there really an Order to watch this anime or is the end parts that say Next Ep is what Im ment to watch?


Just watch the movies as they come out its like that


in case your wondering the movies chronological order is

2, 4, 3, 1, 5, 6, 7

if i remember correctly . . .
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Hmm ok well I kinda just worked it out by checkin each ending part of Ep and seein what Next Ep is as it doesn't really seem to matter what order you watch it either way nice anime :P...

6? 7? Are they out yet coz I only know of there bein 5 Eps with 1 Ep bein 2hours long.
Posted 3/30/09
Movie 6 should be out around April or May on DVD while Movie 7 isnt out in japanese cinemas yet so it might take a while for its release on dvd = ="

and yea Movie 5 was almost 2 hours long best movie yet xD
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