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Post Reply Is it wierd / wrong to listen to secular music?
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Posted 6/7/08 , edited 6/8/08
The topic has been brought up by Faeleia, and if there was another it slipped my mind, but it was not necessarily explored in my views, if it has please lock or delete this thread.

Ok it should be common knowledge or at least no surprise to know that Lucifer was in charge of music. And as such derives my question. I thought it would make for a good discussion, and I have heard arguments for and against, and I know what I believe.

(http://www.wholeperson-counseling.org/ndoc/strangefire.html, here is one of the arguments I have to share)


So let me spell out the question,and then I will give my answer, then everyone can explain what they feel about the subject.

Music was created to worship God; but secular music doesn't do that.

And if the Fallen Prince himself was in charge of it, surely he could use it as he deems fit, and if we like secular music are we praising the creator of secular music?

Where is the line drawn between secular music and worship music, I know some people who cannot stand hymns and worship songs, and it irritates me.

I want to know if my feelings are misplaced or is there indeed, taking music too far the wrong way.

Some examples of music that are of questionable nature im sure your aware of, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, slipknot, anything that breeds hate anguish or disgust, in my eyes.

Melody is meant to carry the message or worship in this sense. "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord" (Ephesians 5:19).

"Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers" (Ephesians 4:29). "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment" (Matthew 12:36). So if every word is accounted for, every author of the secular nature will report of his wrong doings before the throne. Rather it is blasphemous lyrics or idolatry, or leading the flock down the wrong path.

I think these artists among others should not be listened to, but I do not see a problem with most secular artists, just the atheistic authors and blasphemous forms of life that produce anti-worship lyrics.

So to re-instate the original question, is it ok to claim Christ and like forms of music as mentioned? My answer is no. (To clarify I am talking about the Marilyn Manson type here). Also please post your thoughts on the whole of secular music, and feel free do discuss in depth why it is you believe what you do and support why you believe that way if applicable.


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Posted 6/9/08
It's allowed... Just dont go too far with it =\ I mean u can listen to it every once in awhile but dont let that stop you from listening/singing music/praises/worships for God.
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Hmmm, I don't know. I listen to alot of country music, both secular and religious, practicly 24/7. I guess as long as what you listen to doen't seem more important then God, it really shouldn't matter. I wouldn't listen to any music that bashed Christians and church and God, though.
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I listen to both but i try to keep it 3/4 christian and 1/4 secular just so that i keep my focus on God...sounds extremely nerdy but it helps me to not get too hooked on worldly music while allowing me to hear my favorite secular songs at the same time....but then again I'm hooked on music lol.....
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AburaiRukia wrote:

I listen to both but i try to keep it 3/4 christian and 1/4 secular just so that i keep my focus on God...sounds extremely nerdy but it helps me to not get too hooked on worldly music while allowing me to hear my favorite secular songs at the same time....but then again I'm hooked on music lol.....


NO not nerdy just saved....
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haha well i guess my values are stricter in this subject, if the song is not either praising God, it at least has good values associated with it, like love songs, there is nothing wrong with some sinatra or some Marvin Gaye or some van morrison, but with that said, I don't want 50 cent up in here up in here...
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haha well i guess my values are stricter in this subject, if the song is not either praising God, it at least has good values associated with it, like love songs, there is nothing wrong with some sinatra or some Marvin Gaye or some van morrison, but with that said, I don't want 50 cent up in here up in here...


50 cents... .[green]That is not music, it is musick as in sick.... That tpye of musick puts down women, love and promots sick behavure. I have heard Christan rap and its pertty good. But, most secular rap is, well just sick.
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I only listen to music which have catchy tunes, or maybe good meaning... (Favorite band is Switchfoot) XD
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Amen brotha ratman. I am not a huge fan but I like kj-52 and John Reuben. (christian rappers). And april you dont count lol (j/k). switchfoot is cool.
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in my opinion, secular music isn't all bad...i'm just avoiding Hardcore rock (urgh), songs that are meaningless and those lyrics w/c makes us turn away from God...LYRICS are the MOST important part of the song...God bless ya'll and Take care!!
Posted 6/11/08
Do you even know what goes into makes those songs? What's behind all that emotion? What it does to or affects people? Or even the dark history behind music?
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Do you even know what goes into makes those songs? What's behind all that emotion? What it does to or affects people? Or even the dark history behind music?


What do you mean. Can you give details
Posted 6/11/08

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rkanubis wrote:

Do you even know what goes into makes those songs? What's behind all that emotion? What it does to or affects people? Or even the dark history behind music?


What do you mean. Can you give details


Ok, for example go youtube and watch Hell's Bell's. Then go check out any artist you can think of and put the word backmasking behind it and search.
Posted 6/12/08
For me, it depends.
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Posted 6/12/08 , edited 6/12/08
Secular music is the only music I listen too. songs like "Stairway to heaven" when they're played backwards sounds weird and people think they can hear actual satanic "words" in the backwards songs but that's people being retarded (I've also listened to Stairway to heaven backwards).

Secular music is better than christian music because it breaks barriers, it is always changing and Christian music is always struggling to keep up (plus a lot of it is theologically unsound).

Music is s'possed to evoke emotion, we are supposed to feel something when we listen to music. we feel sad when we hear songs like "Mad World" by Gary Jules or angry when we hear something by Nirvana. We do have to be cautious because a lot of songs are about nothing but sex, drugs, money and booze and songs that are just about that are sometimes unhealthy. But there are songs out there that sound nice but are about those things (aka "Banana Pancakes" by Jack Johnson). so I think that part of it is personal preferance . If we like how it sounds and how it makes us feel then to us it's "okay". but we have to be careful. there's a lot of music that is excellent music like AC/DC's "Hells Bells" (has nothing to do with hell in the first place). So I think that we need to look for the meaning of the song from other places (wikipedia is a good place to start). The band member's history plays big role in the music they write. Research is you're not sure. For me, I think that "Secular" music is the best kind to listen to. at least it's always real.
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