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Why doesn't Final Fantasy die already?
Posted 6/10/08

manzi wrote:

coz' the classic squaresoft fanboys outnumber the haters..


Classic squaresoft fanboys miss when we were getting all these awesome new games coming out what seemed like every other day...
Posted 6/10/08

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chickenyogurt wrote:

As long as they don't run out of epic CG cutscenes, new gameplay, new plots, and new methods, I'm pretty sure this series won't die.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure hentai enthusiasts aren't complaining :P


Agreeing on this. More so on the second reason

To opening post, are you a part of Squeenix? Guess not.

They can milk the Final Fantasy franchise all they want since people are actually buying it.
As long as some guy who watched Advent Children (even if he didn't play the original Final Fantasy 7) and liked it to the extent that he actually buys the spin-offs rather than playing the original itself, it will never end.

Much as everyone has a level of anger against Squeenix for milking its Final Fantasy (okay I guess pun not intended) I'd rather see Kingdom Hearts go away.

A lot of non-main game development have been kicked to the curb due to both of them.

I just hate the ones who hype Final Fantasy 7 (not the game itself) Years after its release it actually has MORE fans. Did they all play it? I don't even think so. FF7 was "great" during its days. Smooth 3d engine during its time was astounding (but in turn overshadowing a few games like Xenogears)

As long as someone likes sissy pretty boys like Cloud and Sephiroth it will never stop.

I half agree on "stop milking Final Fantasy series"

"Dude Final Fantasy 7 is the best RPG ever!"
"Really? Hmm have you played games like Chrono Trigger or Shin Megami Tensei?"
"No, but dude Final Fantasy 7 was so awesome!"
"It was ok, mostly just hyped for how pretty it was for its time, FF8 was better though"
"DUDE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT FF7 IS THE BEST"
"Meh, well I liked the part where you get to ride the motorcycle and cut people xD"
"YOU GET TO RIDE A MOTORCYCLE!?!?!! I mean I like that part to!"
"You haven't...actually played it have you, you just watched the movie and played spin-offs..."
"......................So, its still the best RPG evar...."
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Posted 6/10/08
FF doesnt repeat it's stories or chars. Makes it more interesting that way.
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Posted 6/10/08

dmitsuki wrote:

Classic squaresoft fanboys miss when we were getting all these awesome new games coming out what seemed like every other day...


meh.. i'm still in love with pixels.. anyway there are some good and some bad but you don't have to hate the whole series, it's true that the plot is kinda the same (save the world from impending destruction, gather allies questing) but isn't it the basics of any RPG? There are some good, some bad and some godawful spin-offs (which you have to buy for the sake of closure)
Posted 6/10/08

manzi wrote:


dmitsuki wrote:

Classic squaresoft fanboys miss when we were getting all these awesome new games coming out what seemed like every other day...


meh.. i'm still in love with pixels.. anyway there are some good and some bad but you don't have to hate the whole series, it's true that the plot is kinda the same (save the world from impending destruction, gather allies questing) but isn't it the basics of any RPG? There are some good, some bad and some godawful spin-offs (which you have to buy for the sake of closure)


I think you guys got the wrong idea, I don't hate FF at all, I just wish they wouldn't rely on that name to sell games, because it makes developers have to follow some pattern and they can't explore, but when they do we get stuff like The World Ends With You. But yeah just to clear some stuff up

FF1 - Loved it
FF2 - Loved it
FF3 - Liked it
FF4 - Have yet to play it actually >_>
FF5 - Have no clue if I played it or not, all the Japanese/American mix up things
FF6 - Liked it
FF7 - Didn't really like it, the characters seemed Generic and out of a Nicktoon drama or something...
FF8 - My favorite FF game ever
FF9 - Liked it
FF10 - Crap
FF11 - More crap
FF12 - Second favorite FF game
Final Fantasy tactics - Liked it
Final Fantasy tactics advance - Story turned me off, just seem like I wasted my time for the kid to just say "screw It ill stay"
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: For some reason, I liked this one.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings of Fate: Character art turned me off, couldn't relate to the midgets either xD
Final Fantasy Dirge of Cerberus - Borrowed from my little brothers friend, oh god I want my time back.
Final Fantasy Crisis Core - It's ok, but still lacking in the design department
I could probably think of some more FF games, but the fact is, there shouldn't BE this many. Tactics and Crystal Chronicles shouldn't of even had Final Fantasy in the names!
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Posted 6/10/08

dmitsuki wrote:

I think you guys got the wrong idea, I don't hate FF at all, I just wish they wouldn't rely on that name to sell games, because it makes developers have to follow some pattern and they can't explore, but when they do we get stuff like The World Ends With You. But yeah just to clear some stuff up

FF1 - Loved it
FF2 - Loved it
FF3 - Liked it
FF4 - Have yet to play it actually >_>
FF5 - Have no clue if I played it or not, all the Japanese/American mix up things
FF6 - Liked it
FF7 - Didn't really like it, the characters seemed Generic and out of a Nicktoon drama or something...
FF8 - My favorite FF game ever
FF9 - Liked it
FF10 - Crap
FF11 - More crap
FF12 - Second favorite FF game
Final Fantasy tactics - Liked it
Final Fantasy tactics advance - Story turned me off, just seem like I wasted my time for the kid to just say "screw It ill stay"
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: For some reason, I liked this one.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings of Fate: Character art turned me off, couldn't relate to the midgets either xD
Final Fantasy Dirge of Cerberus - Borrowed from my little brothers friend, oh god I want my time back.
Final Fantasy Crisis Core - It's ok, but still lacking in the design department
I could probably think of some more FF games, but the fact is, there shouldn't BE this many. Tactics and Crystal Chronicles shouldn't of even had Final Fantasy in the names!


meh.. you could've said so when you started the damn thread.. or be more precise next time like: "squaresoft should stop attaching the word final fantasy to all their games" and your opening post sounds so caustic that any reader non-gamer or gamer will easily misunderstand your rant.

Posted 6/10/08

manzi wrote:


dmitsuki wrote:

I think you guys got the wrong idea, I don't hate FF at all, I just wish they wouldn't rely on that name to sell games, because it makes developers have to follow some pattern and they can't explore, but when they do we get stuff like The World Ends With You. But yeah just to clear some stuff up

FF1 - Loved it
FF2 - Loved it
FF3 - Liked it
FF4 - Have yet to play it actually >_>
FF5 - Have no clue if I played it or not, all the Japanese/American mix up things
FF6 - Liked it
FF7 - Didn't really like it, the characters seemed Generic and out of a Nicktoon drama or something...
FF8 - My favorite FF game ever
FF9 - Liked it
FF10 - Crap
FF11 - More crap
FF12 - Second favorite FF game
Final Fantasy tactics - Liked it
Final Fantasy tactics advance - Story turned me off, just seem like I wasted my time for the kid to just say "screw It ill stay"
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: For some reason, I liked this one.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings of Fate: Character art turned me off, couldn't relate to the midgets either xD
Final Fantasy Dirge of Cerberus - Borrowed from my little brothers friend, oh god I want my time back.
Final Fantasy Crisis Core - It's ok, but still lacking in the design department
I could probably think of some more FF games, but the fact is, there shouldn't BE this many. Tactics and Crystal Chronicles shouldn't of even had Final Fantasy in the names!


meh.. you could've said so when you started the damn thread.. or be more precise next time like: "squaresoft should stop attaching the word final fantasy to all their games" and your opening post sounds so caustic that any reader non-gamer or gamer will easily misunderstand your rant.



I have stayed up all night, I don't think my brain is functioning properly @_@ My power gets temporarily cut off in a hour and 30 minutes to, dang maybe i'll just play Shining Force 2 on my ds, I seriously have no clue what im takling about anymore, if I formated that thing wrong then I apologize, but after I sleep and wake up I'll fix it xO
Posted 6/10/08
as final fantasy had a roll in games but over the years their games had better graphics but more boring gameplay. . . FF12? come on it's like playing granado espada with out the other players
Posted 6/10/08
So long as there are fans of the series, the game will never die....
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Posted 6/10/08 , edited 6/10/08
Why keep making the game? Well there is the simple reason of fan boys/girls who will buy Anything with Final Fantasy in the title.

Final Fantasy has kind of hit a rut, but luckily for them whenever they hit a rut a new system comes a long and gives Square a chance to shine. It happened with FF4, FF7, and FF10.

Anyway, I have read that most of the lead directors, artists, composers, developers at square have expressed bordem with the series. So they are making on last Huzzah before killing the series. Sadly more and more these days video games are not about making art or something new. It is about playing to fans expectations. And well lets face it FF7 was the peak of Squares life. So they want to stay afloat by selling the same game over and over again. Why is that? Mainly because FF was there first, FF was great before the Chronos or Legend of Dragoon. So people see those games as a copy of FF but in a negative way. And it is more costly to make a game and have it flop.

Just something to keep in mind, The World Ends with You would have never come out if Final Fantasy had died anytime before the PS2. I highly doubt that Square would have survived had they killed final fantasy.

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Are you sure you hate the series? You seem to be heavily focused on FF7. I agree it is over glorified but it is not the FF out there.
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because its a business
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Posted 6/10/08 , edited 6/10/08

manzi wrote:


dmitsuki wrote:

I think you guys got the wrong idea, I don't hate FF at all, I just wish they wouldn't rely on that name to sell games, because it makes developers have to follow some pattern and they can't explore, but when they do we get stuff like The World Ends With You. But yeah just to clear some stuff up

FF1 - Loved it
FF2 - Loved it
FF3 - Liked it
FF4 - Have yet to play it actually >_>
FF5 - Have no clue if I played it or not, all the Japanese/American mix up things
FF6 - Liked it
FF7 - Didn't really like it, the characters seemed Generic and out of a Nicktoon drama or something...
FF8 - My favorite FF game ever
FF9 - Liked it
FF10 - Crap
FF11 - More crap
FF12 - Second favorite FF game
Final Fantasy tactics - Liked it
Final Fantasy tactics advance - Story turned me off, just seem like I wasted my time for the kid to just say "screw It ill stay"
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: For some reason, I liked this one.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Rings of Fate: Character art turned me off, couldn't relate to the midgets either xD
Final Fantasy Dirge of Cerberus - Borrowed from my little brothers friend, oh god I want my time back.
Final Fantasy Crisis Core - It's ok, but still lacking in the design department
I could probably think of some more FF games, but the fact is, there shouldn't BE this many. Tactics and Crystal Chronicles shouldn't of even had Final Fantasy in the names!


meh.. you could've said so when you started the damn thread.. or be more precise next time like: "squaresoft should stop attaching the word final fantasy to all their games" and your opening post sounds so caustic that any reader non-gamer or gamer will easily misunderstand your rant.



damn right. there you go. in the end, the thread starter stated that he likes some final fantasy games as seen on his list above but contradicted it by starting this damn thread. so now that he got owned he changed his opinion by liking FF? but didnt you state that FF should die??kinda pathetic dont you think? this is just a waste of time

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Posted 6/10/08
I think FF doesn't die that easy because of the upgrading of the console.

When PS2 was out, they didn't abandon making FF in PS1 [FFX].

also, they know gamers want a cool cinematics so they make one out of the latest technology they have

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Posted 6/10/08
i like FF.so i continue to play!
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Posted 6/10/08
because each of the series is different to the others and they are all good, at least to those who haven't got bored yet....
because they still have many die hard fans out there ( i was too )

but i admit that now i really want to tell square enix to stop making unnecessary projects relating to the series
like FF7, that's waaaay too much exposure. FF7:AC is cool, but more than that is not
FF12 seemed like it was made to give way for more sequel/prequel things, i can't find a clear story plot there!
and FF13 has so many games at once -_-
that's very disappointing of them
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