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Posted 8/12/08

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sometimes the human body can be considered a weapon, when i'm writting this i think especially about those who practice Capoeira (one of the most spectacular and elegant styles of fight). this style comes from Brazil. some specialists consider it a genial mixture between martial arts, let's say "street" fight and dance. that was the only way the slaves on the plantations could find freedom and also the only way they could oppose their "masters"/suppresors. the dance was a way of concealing the real meaning of their "play". they used to gather in circle and two of them were performing inside the circle, on music. the fluid, elegant and fascinating movements bring back memories on the ancient tribal rites that's why some say capoeira is a reminiscence of the old sacred Indian dances, anyway there are a lot of theories regarding also the denomination "capoeira", but i think the correct one is that capoeira comes from the Spanish notion (hope i'm not wrong!) for a castrated cock - and why is that? because the way the fighter gather resembles to cock fights they follow the same patterns like - people gathered in circle and 2 fighters in the middle (just like in the street cock fights!) but the absolute thing is the dance can become a style of fight and this is really grandiose. in fact this style of fight reminds me of those Japanese style of fight that use letters for diffrent fight movements, sometimes between Japanese calligraphy and martial arts exist strong conections..........and this is also something amazing and beautiful ... and i think that's all


That's an interesting idea; The body as a weapon. It's almost a paradox.
The body can be used as a weapon but it itself is not a weapon as a weapon is defined as a tool designed to inflict harm or death upon a living being. Though as it can be used as one of the most [if not the most] effective weapons known to man without being a weapon, it has definitely earned it's spot here..

Capoeria is indeed a sight to behold. It's effectiveness in combat is questionable, but like I always say, any art can be effective in combat depending on the circumstances, the wielder, the opponent, the opponent's style, and the environment.
I'ts very beautiful to watch, it's questionable the greatest fitness source in all the martial arts, and it's unpredictable.



yes u are right and is well said the fact that the body itself it can't be be called a weapon in the strict sense of the word, that's more than well said .....the fact is that sometimes i ask myself if in this imperfect is there a perfect weapon? but at the same time i'm more than convinced that there isn't ...because of one simple thing .....from the very beginning we are fated to be imperfect ...and again ur more than right when u say that capoeira is more like an art ...i don't know maybe that's why i am so found of it.

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Hai, i agree with all the above posts. I don't there is any weapon that is perfect both in its speed and power. Also in defense and attack. (i think, if there is one close to it let me know)

I just think that any weapon has their own vulnerability and own advantages (of course used by a skilled wielder).
Posted 8/14/08
I would agree that the body makes an elegant weapon.Fluent and ever changing it can be trained and adjusted to react to and withstand any situation. Which is funny in a way because looking at biology the body is not built for battle. With so many pressure points and arteries it is easy to be subdued. but I must say that the mind is the ultimate weapon.That is my choice for any and all battles because only with a strong mind can you be at harmony with your weapon of choice. That is just my opinion. Many people underestimate the power of psychological warfare and true tacticians have for centuries shown them their weakness in that.
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I would agree that the body makes an elegant weapon.Fluent and ever changing it can be trained and adjusted to react to and withstand any situation. Which is funny in a way because looking at biology the body is not built for battle. With so many pressure points and arteries it is easy to be subdued. but I must say that the mind is the ultimate weapon.That is my choice for any and all battles because only with a strong mind can you be at harmony with your weapon of choice. That is just my opinion. Many people underestimate the power of psychological warfare and true tacticians have for centuries shown them their weakness in that.


Yes. However remember that a powerful mind does not always think to be powerful.
Concerning the concept of mushin, the reaction of the subconscious is the ultimate discipline.

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Typhris wrote:

I would agree that the body makes an elegant weapon.Fluent and ever changing it can be trained and adjusted to react to and withstand any situation. Which is funny in a way because looking at biology the body is not built for battle. With so many pressure points and arteries it is easy to be subdued. but I must say that the mind is the ultimate weapon.That is my choice for any and all battles because only with a strong mind can you be at harmony with your weapon of choice. That is just my opinion. Many people underestimate the power of psychological warfare and true tacticians have for centuries shown them their weakness in that.


i do agree with you - indeed it must be a strong conection between your mind and the weapon you choose...well sometimes i think that we don't choose the weapons but the weapons choose us! sometimes a weapon is an extension for our personality and i like what you said "only with a strong mind can you be at harmony with your weapon of choice".
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I was taught that" A weapon is nothing more than an extension of your own souls grasp." Of course I was also taught two other great things "Master one thing in all truth so that it of your soul as breathing and practice all else so as it is as nature." and second "Even the tiny fly can kill the elephant if he knows where to strike." I know this sounds kinda like huh? That being said I'll start as such, my greatest masterey is in the naginata, it was the first weapon that was ever laid into my hands, if someone was to ask when I weild it what do you feel, I feel nothing it is apart of me, as the first expression said the naginata is an extension of my soul. Yet I am trained to good proficiency in two other areas in martial arts. I have come to excel greatly at the yumi(japanese bow) and have continued to grow in kenjutsu. This all being said if I had to go into battle I would "stand on the ground as a whole" with my naginata and would also take a yumi. Pick'em off before I had to use a close quarters weapon, waste not, want not is also true for battle. as for the fly and the elephant well that goes back to an earlier discussion on which skill is suppose to be better than another. No skill is better than another only a fighter is better than a another.
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I was taught that" A weapon is nothing more than an extension of your own souls grasp." Of course I was also taught two other great things "Master one thing in all truth so that it of your soul as breathing and practice all else so as it is as nature." and second "Even the tiny fly can kill the elephant if he knows where to strike." I know this sounds kinda like huh? That being said I'll start as such, my greatest masterey is in the naginata, it was the first weapon that was ever laid into my hands, if someone was to ask when I weild it what do you feel, I feel nothing it is apart of me, as the first expression said the naginata is an extension of my soul. Yet I am trained to good proficiency in two other areas in martial arts. I have come to excel greatly at the yumi(japanese bow) and have continued to grow in kenjutsu. This all being said if I had to go into battle I would "stand on the ground as a whole" with my naginata and would also take a yumi. Pick'em off before I had to use a close quarters weapon, waste not, want not is also true for battle. as for the fly and the elephant well that goes back to an earlier discussion on which skill is suppose to be better than another. No skill is better than another only a fighter is better than a another.


well said sir, well said
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The first weapon I ever picked up was the Guan Dao. It is sort of similar to the naginata, but the blade is broader and heavier. The first weapon I trained with and mastered were the tonfas, however.
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Kali stick or a pair of them is definitely my choice of weapon... I'ts so easy to wield them and their quickness could be deadly if needed... You know, with a kali stick you can quite easily break a coconut with one hit, and I've been told that's about the same hardiness as human head. Also, if you can hit a person in the fingers with a kali stick, it's definitely lights out, even if you don't hit with full force... I've been unconscious by a kali stick to the fingers in training...


Also, regarding the thing about spears and staves, I must definitely say that spear is better. For who denies the usage of the shaft with spear? Basically, spear is a staff with an sharp end, so if used like an staff it would only add to the chance of inflicting greater damage. So if we're speaking about two wielders both equally efficient in both spear and staff usage (which would be the most equal weapon comparing situation) the answer would be quite clear, because the one with spear has basically both of the weapons.

And, well, that said, I'd still might use a spear rather than a kali stick if an open fighting area was assured... But the advantage of kali sticks if you get close and personal, like in a succesful ambush would still be undeniable... Of course kali sticks also because I'm trained in the use of them, not in use of spear.
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