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Posted 6/18/08

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everyone has a right to express their opinion and i'll respect yours but what do you have to backup your theory i mean who do you think turned Raki into a Claymore
and the large sword question, Miria already explained that the Organization's claymores (those big ass swords) were made of different minerals/compounds/materials, i bet if its a normal claymore a human could lift it basically claymores originated from Scotland and they were used by humans in medieval times so Raki could very well be using an ordinary claymore not the Organization made ones
i think its Isley's old armor from his Claymore days because the structureof the armor is almost as same as female Claymores uniforms, covering on the shoulders, a metal "skirt" on the hips
BTW im surprized no one is discussing the secret collaborator that Miria said helped her in gathering the info


I think what you said is true Isaw it in the manga where the armor that isley is wearing is the same as what raki is wearing....And about that collaborator that you were saying I was wodering who that was but you know miria is just to secretive so I don't have a clue of who it was...You guys who do you think is that?

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I think what you said is true Isaw it in the manga where the armor that isley is wearing is the same as what raki is wearing....And about that collaborator that you were saying I was wodering who that was but you know miria is just to secretive so I don't have a clue of who it was...You guys who do you think is that?



ok well anyways to me the most obvious choice is Rubel and for obvious reasons (maybe too obvious)
-although he does put Clare on sucidal missions, because of that she got to fight an awakened being and become aware of her limits
-he keeps her true strength hidden from the Organization when she was sent on the mission with Ophelia (which nearly killed her and resulted in an awakened Ophelia), when Ophelia's dead awakened remains were found the Org initially thought Clare killed her but Rubel refused saying how could no 47 kill an awakened being alone
-Rubel also "accidently" told Galatea about the failed soul link which resulted in Abyss of the South, Luciela
-when Clarice reported seven missing gravestone markers belonging to the Ghost Brigade, the Org thought of dispatching Lune/Rune (the new "eye") but Rubel stopped them saying that the remaining warriors had succeded in suppressing their yoki for seven years and it would be impossible to find them and after the Org dismissed it as a negligible issue he was seen chuckling, here are his exact thoughts
"a negligible issue huh? if i remember correctly the leader of the team in those days was no 6, Miria, the woman called 'the phantom' i cant believe she would follow orders obediently and die in vain"
to me his above dialog implies that he knows that they're alive

anyways all i've done is taken some facts from the manga and theorized on that, so this is just mere hypothesis, in my case i could be totally off the mark but to me atleast he seems to be the most possible candidate of the spy among the black coats

PS - i just copied my previous post
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Im still on the claymore aprentise idea atm cause an aprentise would'nt realy know how to fight a youma but could still be able to detect youma, thus making Raki doing the fighting make more sense


pfft have you seen Clarice does she scream uber powerful Claymore to you in any way or any other Claymore of the current generation.....if you haven't noticed the new generation sucks (with a few exceptions) i mean seriously tag team
Galatea-Ophelia-Raphalea against Audery-Miata-Rachael
except Miata i doubt the other two would put up a good fight
the Org is in a desperate condition after losing literally all of their single digit warriors in the war in the North that's why we see a human looking Claymore (Clarice) running around...my point the Org is really short handed concerning the warriors now i doubt they would so graciously lend trainees to a mere human



who said they would lend a trainee? - no one


I implied that maybe raki found a escaping trainee which does make sense and why would the org go that far just to find a regular trainee, so do you get the point, suggest who could be on Raki's shoulder? (or type of people?) and who said the girl was powerful. The claymores are progressing and they will begin to make strong claymores again later on with there new found knowledge (twins and other stuff).
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who said they would lend a trainee? - no one


I implied that maybe raki found a escaping trainee which does make sense and why would the org go that far just to find a regular trainee, so do you get the point, suggest who could be on Raki's shoulder? (or type of people?) and who said the girl was powerful. The claymores are progressing and they will begin to make strong claymores again later on with there new found knowledge (twins and other stuff).


*face palm* did i not say that the Org was shorthanded on warriors, so why wouldn't they go looking for escaped trainees, in a flashback we see little Teresa running away from the training grounds to the forests (to toss around yomas and kick wild animals ) but one of the Black Coats caught her saying she was a problem child etc....my point she was a trainee too but even though she dissapeared she was always tracked down and bought back

i've already stated my opinion that the little girl could be Prissy or some new character

i never said that girl was powerful.....i just did the comparison to make it clear the current generation is weaker (with a few exceptions) than the old generation

the only "new found knowledge" Org has is no1 & 2, using twins sharing the same yoma meat and making them merge their spirits and that itself is a big weakness, if Alicia were to go against Riful, it would be a matter of mere seconds before Riful found out about the soul link and killed Beth making Alicia another berserk AB
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who said they would lend a trainee? - no one


I implied that maybe raki found a escaping trainee which does make sense and why would the org go that far just to find a regular trainee, so do you get the point, suggest who could be on Raki's shoulder? (or type of people?) and who said the girl was powerful. The claymores are progressing and they will begin to make strong claymores again later on with there new found knowledge (twins and other stuff).


*face palm* did i not say that the Org was shorthanded on warriors, so why wouldn't they go looking for escaped trainees, in a flashback we see little Teresa running away from the training grounds to the forests (to toss around yomas and kick wild animals ) but one of the Black Coats caught her saying she was a problem child etc....my point she was a trainee too but even though she dissapeared she was always tracked down and bought back

i've already stated my opinion that the little girl could be Prissy or some new character

i never said that girl was powerful.....i just did the comparison to make it clear the current generation is weaker (with a few exceptions) than the old generation

the only "new found knowledge" Org has is no1 & 2, using twins sharing the same yoma meat and making them merge their spirits and that itself is a big weakness, if Alicia were to go against Riful, it would be a matter of mere seconds before Riful found out about the soul link and killed Beth making Alicia another berserk AB
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First of all if Terresa could get that far away from the org withput really trying, i think others should be able to get away especially with all the problems going on atm with the org, and the claymores are becomming stronger and stronger by eacvh generation (most of the time) and the weakness you talked about has overall more positive than negitive effects (cause how would Riful get the time to attack beth when she is being attacked by Alicia

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crazyrodent96 wrote:


ali1238 wrote:

who said they would lend a trainee? - no one


I implied that maybe raki found a escaping trainee which does make sense and why would the org go that far just to find a regular trainee, so do you get the point, suggest who could be on Raki's shoulder? (or type of people?) and who said the girl was powerful. The claymores are progressing and they will begin to make strong claymores again later on with there new found knowledge (twins and other stuff).


*face palm* did i not say that the Org was shorthanded on warriors, so why wouldn't they go looking for escaped trainees, in a flashback we see little Teresa running away from the training grounds to the forests (to toss around yomas and kick wild animals ) but one of the Black Coats caught her saying she was a problem child etc....my point she was a trainee too but even though she dissapeared she was always tracked down and bought back

i've already stated my opinion that the little girl could be Prissy or some new character

i never said that girl was powerful.....i just did the comparison to make it clear the current generation is weaker (with a few exceptions) than the old generation

the only "new found knowledge" Org has is no1 & 2, using twins sharing the same yoma meat and making them merge their spirits and that itself is a big weakness, if Alicia were to go against Riful, it would be a matter of mere seconds before Riful found out about the soul link and killed Beth making Alicia another berserk AB
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First of all if Terresa could get that far away from the org withput really trying, i think others should be able to get away especially with all the problems going on atm with the org, and the claymores are becomming stronger and stronger by eacvh generation (most of the time) and the weakness you talked about has overall more positive than negitive effects (cause how would Riful get the time to attack beth when she is being attacked by Alicia



there you go again speculating on nothing
let me quote myself again "Teresa was a trainee too but even though she disappeared she was always tracked down and bought back
and then you say others should be able to get away....i don't think so the Org has really strict rules concerning any Claymore, if you've read the manga carefully you would know

what proof do you have to back up your "Claymores are getting stronger every generation" statement

hello?? have you even looked at Riful's awakened form, do you seriously think all those ribbons are for decoration and did you notice that when Clare and others were escaping from her how could she attack them simultaneously??
her ribbons give her a long range and can spread in every direction

if you counter this post i hope you give some "real" proof
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Posted 6/19/08

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ali1238 wrote:


crazyrodent96 wrote:


ali1238 wrote:

who said they would lend a trainee? - no one


I implied that maybe raki found a escaping trainee which does make sense and why would the org go that far just to find a regular trainee, so do you get the point, suggest who could be on Raki's shoulder? (or type of people?) and who said the girl was powerful. The claymores are progressing and they will begin to make strong claymores again later on with there new found knowledge (twins and other stuff).


*face palm* did i not say that the Org was shorthanded on warriors, so why wouldn't they go looking for escaped trainees, in a flashback we see little Teresa running away from the training grounds to the forests (to toss around yomas and kick wild animals ) but one of the Black Coats caught her saying she was a problem child etc....my point she was a trainee too but even though she dissapeared she was always tracked down and bought back

i've already stated my opinion that the little girl could be Prissy or some new character

i never said that girl was powerful.....i just did the comparison to make it clear the current generation is weaker (with a few exceptions) than the old generation

the only "new found knowledge" Org has is no1 & 2, using twins sharing the same yoma meat and making them merge their spirits and that itself is a big weakness, if Alicia were to go against Riful, it would be a matter of mere seconds before Riful found out about the soul link and killed Beth making Alicia another berserk AB
#

First of all if Terresa could get that far away from the org without really trying, i think others should be able to get away especially with all the problems going on atm with the org, and the claymores are becomming stronger and stronger by eacvh generation (most of the time) and the weakness you talked about has overall more positive than negitive effects (cause how would Riful get the time to attack beth when she is being attacked by Alicia



there you go again speculating on nothing
let me quote myself again "Teresa was a trainee too but even though she disappeared she was always tracked down and bought back
and then you say others should be able to get away....i don't think so the Org has really strict rules concerning any Claymore, if you've read the manga carefully you would know

what proof do you have to back up your "Claymores are getting stronger every generation" statement

hello?? have you even looked at Riful's awakened form, do you seriously think all those ribbons are for decoration and did you notice that when Clare and others were escaping from her how could she attack them simultaneously??
her ribbons give her a long range and can spread in every direction

if you counter this post i hope you give some "real" proof


*face palm* (dam that sounds familiar)Hello, comman sense they are making 'war tools' and they have been improving, look at the twins, they have exceptional ability.... (ok lets experiment with lives and get no-where and waste our own time-making claymores that are weaker than the last ones,there experiment is to make better claymores for the war) and last but not least i said "most of the time" but i guess you just skipped that, like the majority of what i had written. Terresa never struggled to get away from the gard that came to get here, doees it sound like trying<-no. And attack simulationously wont help if the twins can soul link outside of her range of attack which is most likely correct other wise the soul link is kinda pointless if they had to be close seeing at it would'nt make any combat sense having that skill cause awakened beings arnt dumb!

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there you go again speculating on nothing
let me quote myself again "Teresa was a trainee too but even though she disappeared she was always tracked down and bought back
and then you say others should be able to get away....i don't think so the Org has really strict rules concerning any Claymore, if you've read the manga carefully you would know

what proof do you have to back up your "Claymores are getting stronger every generation" statement

hello?? have you even looked at Riful's awakened form, do you seriously think all those ribbons are for decoration and did you notice that when Clare and others were escaping from her how could she attack them simultaneously??
her ribbons give her a long range and can spread in every direction

if you counter this post i hope you give some "real" proof


*face palm* (dam that sounds familiar)Hello, comman sense they are making 'war tools' and they have been improving, look at the twins, they have exceptional ability.... (ok lets experiment with lives and get no-where and waste our own time-making claymores that are weaker than the last ones,there experiment is to make better claymores for the war) and last but not least i said "most of the time" but i guess you just skipped that, like the majority of what i had written. Terresa never struggled to get away from the gard that came to get here, doees it sound like trying<-no. And attack simulationously wont help if the twins can soul link outside of her range of attack which is most likely correct other wise the soul link is kinda pointless if they had to be close seeing at it would'nt make any combat sense having that skill cause awakened beings arnt dumb!



ok..no more face palm for me i'll get a permanent hand print on my face courtesy of you
i never said they aren't making war tools, Miria did a fine job of explaining that in chap79 &80
i admit the twins do have an exceptional ability but its their biggest weakness if they went against multiple opponents

i know you said "most of the time" i read it, it seems like your the one who didn't bother understanding my post and please read it again and for the love of... stop putting words in my mouth
i used Teresa as an example to show the rules of Org are iron clad technically when you join the Org you become the Org's tool till you die or awaken, you can't just leave whenever you feel like it, look at Teresa and Galatea, one's dead and the other would've died if not for the Ghost Brigade

you're heavily underestimating Riful, she already knew about the twins before the 7 year time-skip, not to mention she's smart has a very flexible body and is fast and agile.... and they have to be near for the soul link to take place, Miria herself says http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/80/06/ the soul link is useless in actual battle
there i hope i refreshed your memory again concerning the twins

PS- awakened beings are dumb look at Duff
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crazyrodent96 wrote:

there you go again speculating on nothing
let me quote myself again "Teresa was a trainee too but even though she disappeared she was always tracked down and bought back
and then you say others should be able to get away....i don't think so the Org has really strict rules concerning any Claymore, if you've read the manga carefully you would know

what proof do you have to back up your "Claymores are getting stronger every generation" statement

hello?? have you even looked at Riful's awakened form, do you seriously think all those ribbons are for decoration and did you notice that when Clare and others were escaping from her how could she attack them simultaneously??
her ribbons give her a long range and can spread in every direction

if you counter this post i hope you give some "real" proof


*face palm* (dam that sounds familiar)Hello, comman sense they are making 'war tools' and they have been improving, look at the twins, they have exceptional ability.... (ok lets experiment with lives and get no-where and waste our own time-making claymores that are weaker than the last ones,there experiment is to make better claymores for the war) and last but not least i said "most of the time" but i guess you just skipped that, like the majority of what i had written. Terresa never struggled to get away from the gard that came to get here, doees it sound like trying<-no. And attack simulationously wont help if the twins can soul link outside of her range of attack which is most likely correct other wise the soul link is kinda pointless if they had to be close seeing at it would'nt make any combat sense having that skill cause awakened beings arnt dumb!



ok..no more face palm for me i'll get a permanent hand print on my face courtesy of you
i never said they aren't making war tools, Miria did a fine job of explaining that in chap79 &80
i admit the twins do have an exceptional ability but its their biggest weakness if they went against multiple opponents

i know you said "most of the time" i read it, it seems like your the one who didn't bother understanding my post and please read it again and for the love of... stop putting words in my mouth
i used Teresa as an example to show the rules of Org are iron clad technically when you join the Org you become the Org's tool till you die or awaken, you can't just leave whenever you feel like it, look at Teresa and Galatea, one's dead and the other would've died if not for the Ghost Brigade

you're heavily underestimating Riful, she already knew about the twins before the 7 year time-skip, not to mention she's smart has a very flexible body and is fast and agile.... and they have to be near for the soul link to take place, Miria herself says http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/80/06/ the soul link is useless in actual battle
there i hope i refreshed your memory again concerning the twins

PS- awakened beings are dumb look at Duff



there are also smart one Isley, riful to name some..yes i know you were i kidding about Duff. About the twins, well im wrong... dam you those 2 are quite a useless bunch when against an smart/mutiple enemies theoritically .The Org is struct but some do get away like a certain blind nun, lol notice this all started from me saying it was an aprentise

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there are also smart one Isley, riful to name some..yes i know you were i kidding about Duff. About the twins, well im wrong... dam you those 2 are quite a useless bunch when against an smart/mutiple enemies theoritically .The Org is struct but some do get away like a certain blind nun, lol notice this all started from me saying it was an aprentise



of course Isley's smart that guy has lived for over 78 (i think) generations and we Claymore fans have to thank him for making Raki what he is today
YAY blind nun with superpowers....come to think of it these last 2or3 chapters why hasn't her arm grown back yet and im sooo relieved that she didn't die *does the 'Galatea doesn't die' dance* (she and Teresa are ranked no1 in my fav Claymore list with Helen being no 2 ) speaking of which, i really miss Teresa (DAMN YOU PRISSY) i hope she makes another flashback appearance

and yes i did notice it started with your apprentice idea

anyways moving on....i want to know more about the Ghost Brigade, for now we know that Clare uses Windcutter, Miria uses a new mirage, Helen uses the Drillsword, Deneve uses...two claymores, Tabitha acts like the "eye", Cynthia can enhance healing and Yuma can.....(no seriously what can she do) uh-oh characters like her turn into cannon fodder or maybe her special ability is getting lucky, i mean it had to be luck that she survived the North War because it sure as hell wasn't skill

PS- this post was very random, i just went flying from one subject to another
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ali1238 wrote:

there are also smart one Isley, riful to name some..yes i know you were i kidding about Duff. About the twins, well im wrong... dam you those 2 are quite a useless bunch when against an smart/mutiple enemies theoritically .The Org is struct but some do get away like a certain blind nun, lol notice this all started from me saying it was an aprentise



of course Isley's smart that guy has lived for over 78 (i think) generations and we Claymore fans have to thank him for making Raki what he is today
YAY blind nun with superpowers....come to think of it these last 2or3 chapters why hasn't her arm grown back yet and im sooo relieved that she didn't die *does the 'Galatea doesn't die' dance* (she and Teresa are ranked no1 in my fav Claymore list with Helen being no 2 ) speaking of which, i really miss Teresa (DAMN YOU PRISSY) i hope she makes another flashback appearance

and yes i did notice it started with your apprentice idea

anyways moving on....i want to know more about the Ghost Brigade, for now we know that Clare uses Windcutter, Miria uses a new mirage, Helen uses the Drillsword, Deneve uses...two claymores, Tabitha acts like the "eye", Cynthia can enhance healing and Yuma can.....(no seriously what can she do) uh-oh characters like her turn into cannon fodder or maybe her special ability is getting lucky, i mean it had to be luck that she survived the North War because it sure as hell wasn't skill

PS- this post was very random, i just went flying from one subject to another



Galatea's arm will regenerate, I believe this cause of the fact that the time difference in the two chapters was very short.
Clare and Raki(from the start, i just liked him, donno why) fan here


ty Isley for making Raki kick arse, lol

Posted 6/22/08
I JUST FINISHED A COUPLE DAY AGO!!! WOW!!! Raki is so badass now! I though only girls can become claymores, so is Raki an unofficial claymore or something? Common next chapter!! XD
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i dont care if he is all badass now i still hate his freakin guts and wants him to get killed by an awakened being
Posted 8/12/08
raki is on steroids or something... o_O haha just kidding hes a good fighter. like they said, humans can kill yomas too its just that only claymores can sense them. i cant believe he doesnt kill priscilla though. =.= he should!!
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you know,after seeing that kiss scene between clare and raki,i felt a bit disgusted.just didn't seem right.But with raki looking as handsome as he is now,i won't mind seeing any kiss scenes from now on
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