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What do you think of "American" Mangas??
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Posted 7/7/08 , edited 7/7/08
the only american manga i have is off*beat :)
and it pretty good
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Here's my POV :

Anyone can make a manga if they really have the talent... or if they put their mind to it. We can all do what we like actually. After all, manga literally translate to "comics".

But when an American would try to make a manga Japanese style (big eyes, etc), it would suck big time because the style is obviously American, no matter how much they will try to make it more Japanese. It's because of the culture.

No matter how gifted anyone is, they cannot make an authentic Japanese manga when they don't live in Japan and really stayed there for years and adapt to their lifestyles, quirks, legends, etc...

After all, can you imagine a Japanese making an American comic book like Archie? The dating style of Archie is very American ( fast, loose, etc ) Can you imagine Archie apologizing to Mr. Lodge by bowing? If he bows, then he wouldn't be Archie Andrews...an American.

That's why, i personally believe that any nationality cannot create a Japanese manga because it is so ingrained in their culture. Even if they are gifted...even if they make up stories making the lead Japanese and the names Japanese... it wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be real. Anything fake is not worth anything.

After all, we know what usually happens when Americans "copy" ... they destroy the story ( Harry Potter, The Signs ) ... the destroy everything. Anything they do that is not their own sucks. And that is why they should stick to what they do best. Because when it's their own...it's beautiful in its own way.

Posted 7/7/08
iickk..no thanks..i'll stick to the japanese ones
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Posted 7/7/08
you mean like comics???
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I think American Mangas are Comics simple as that.
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Posted 7/8/08
i prefer japanese mangas^^
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American manga should be separated just like Chinese manhua and Korean manwha. Mostly its categorization to allow us to choose plotlines and styles that interest the consumer. Don't muddle the system. I admit that if Americans follow the japanese manga style and rules then they deserve some credit by not being called the same name as the cruddy comics, but they still aren't manga.
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i dont think its right to just change the name of a manga only because of who wrote it. No matter what its still a manga. It also shows how many people have grown to like manga whether its american, japanese, hyspanic, african american, etc...
Also whats the point of changing it? as i said above it shows how much people like what japanese people created and wish to continue it. if they change the name then it changes the whole reason of manga and its true creaters. of course if they change the way its drawn(the style) like manhwa then they should change the name since its what they created.

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who cares if its called manga, comics, or shit, if its cool people will read it, okay if it catches the peoples
attention they will read it, cause not all mangas are cool, and they still have billions of fans *clears throat* one piece *clears throat*.
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Maraen wrote:

umm...u guys are totally...i dunno...
its just about the story right? whether or not its japanese or american doesnt really make a difference. seven seas publishes wonderful ones, like Luna and Destiny's Hand. i think u guys really just dont like it cuz its american...i mean, im not sure whether you've never actually read a real american manga,(not that batman stuff or whatever), or if you guys read it and didnt like it...but all the ones i've read so far, i couldnt even tell it was american until i checked! dude, just give it a chance! geez...


I totally agree! As long as the art is appealing, the story is catching, and the characters are interesting, I don't give a hoot who made it, I'll read it.

From what I've seen from other forums, it's the word "manga" that trips everyone up when the artist is not Japanese. Like, they wouldn't make a big deal if they just called "OEL Manga" something else (or so they say...) However, a lot of people don't seem to realize publishers like Tokyopop treat "manga" as a genre, and non-Japanese books are only being called "manga" so it'll end up in the right section of the bookstore. There it'll be seen and read by the kinds of people who read those kinds of stories (and perhaps so that the close-minded people who avoid non-Japanese manga can get tripped up when they accidently get into a series without realizing what the artist is ;)).

I know when I'm looking for a good graphic novel, I don't really expect it to be in the "comics" section, because the bookstores I go to put all the kinds of comics that don't appeal to me in that section. Instead I'll go to the Graphic Novels/Manga section because either word they use, I'll find both kinds created by artists of every race and culture there.

And honestly... just because a lot of Tokyopop's OEL manga isn't very appealing doesn't mean you lot have to go out and diss all the OEL artists out there!!


YonNobul wrote:

American manga should be separated just like Chinese manhua and Korean manwha. Mostly its categorization to allow us to choose plotlines and styles that interest the consumer. Don't muddle the system. I admit that if Americans follow the japanese manga style and rules then they deserve some credit by not being called the same name as the cruddy comics, but they still aren't manga.


See, technically the word you'd assign several OEL manga is "graphic novel", and all the bookstores I've been to put manga, manhua, and manwha all in the same section. So I just say if you must call it something else, call the American-made stuff "graphic novels" and let them stay where they are -- right next to the manga/manhua/manwha.


Joycelyn1219 wrote:

But when an American would try to make a manga Japanese style (big eyes, etc), it would suck big time because the style is obviously American, no matter how much they will try to make it more Japanese. It's because of the culture.

No matter how gifted anyone is, they cannot make an authentic Japanese manga when they don't live in Japan and really stayed there for years and adapt to their lifestyles, quirks, legends, etc...

After all, can you imagine a Japanese making an American comic book like Archie? The dating style of Archie is very American ( fast, loose, etc ) Can you imagine Archie apologizing to Mr. Lodge by bowing? If he bows, then he wouldn't be Archie Andrews...an American.


Like I said before, manga is pretty much a "genre" here. I think there's a difference between making a story and having it in the manga-section and making a story that's in the manga section AND the story is about Japanese culture.

Stories like Off*Beat, Dramacon, and The Dreaming are NOT trying to be Japanese. They have their own storylines and characters who are not Japanese nor follow the Japanese culture. The only similarities they have is that the art style looks kind of shoujo-ish (and similar art styles does not mean they are trying to be Japanese).

On the other hand, there are stories like Red String where not only is the style kind of shoujo-y, but the characters are suppose to be Japanese and live in Japan. These kinds of stories sounds like the ones you are against. Again, there is a difference between these kinds of stories and the ones that simply fall into the manga-catagory because they share the same kind of readers.

I do however disagree with you on that. Not all manga (and anime for the matter) is about Japanese culture and people still in accept and enjoy it. Just like how authors who obviously haven't lived in the 1800s write stories about that time period, I believe any artist should be able to make a story and let it be based on whatever culture they choose. How "authentic" it feels should be left to the reader's discretion.


After all, we know what usually happens when Americans "copy" ... they destroy the story ( Harry Potter, The Signs ) ... the destroy everything. Anything they do that is not their own sucks. And that is why they should stick to what they do best. Because when it's their own...it's beautiful in its own way.



Ouch. Someone sounds like they don't like integration much,.. I do want to ask, when was Harry Potter copied and destroyed by Americans?
Posted 7/8/08
manga is a term for japanese comics. these are graphic novels.
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Alter-Divide wrote:

This is in the wrong Section; Reported~

Anyway, American made ones are called Comics regardless of drawing style they used.


lol exactly.
Posted 7/8/08

muki02 wrote:

hmm.. saw now a picture of an american manga.. - look that drawing was from an amercan


i just found a picture .. and i don't know any american mangas .. but i prefer all other mangas just not american ,coz i don't thing that american mangas ... Aww.. don't know .. american ´mangas just don'T sound so good.. -.-''


drama kon.. i thought that was japanese >.>
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i like the plot but stilllll a true manga reader cna detech if the manga is japanese or american even if it's soo good in the drawing and plot.... the drawings is what gets me....
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Western manga is ok,but I still prefer manga from japan =/
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