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can zolo beat lufy
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Posted 7/21/08
I love Zoro, but I don't think he can beat Luffy.

Someone said that Zoro has a higher tolerance of pain then Zoro, that's not true. When Luffy beat Gecko Moria and Bartholomew Kuma forced Zoro to take the pain Luffy had from using gear 2nd & 3rd Zoro was incapacitated for far longer then Luffy ever was.
Plus, who said Luffy doesn't know how to use a sword? He never used one but don't you think Garp would of taught him how to use a weapon just like he taught Koby and Helmeppo.

Although, Luffy is a devil fruit user & without that I think Zoro would probably be able to beat Luffy, but only because Luffy doesn't really know how to fight without his powers (since he's had it from like age 6). If Luffy was able to fight without his powers then it would be a pretty good match, still think Luffy would beat him just a little though.
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Umm no offense but Luffy can't beat Sanji and Zorro at the same time. First of all once again Sanji and Zorro have seen Luffy fight PLENTY of times. They know what he is capable of and wouldn't make stupid mistakes. Being Pirate King doesn't necessarily make you the strongest either. Think about this? Would the strongest pirate get captured and executed? Anyway Luffy's weakness is sharp objects which is exactly what Zorro weilds. To top it off Sanji kicks are strong enough to destroy a building. Luffy could never fight the two together if they worked together. The only way he could beat them is to make them fight amongst themselves and then take that opportunity to hit him with their best shot. But please remember that for some reason or another his crewmates have a VERY high tolerance for pain. Plain and simple Luffy is the captain because of what he stands for not because he is the strongest. But as the burden of being the leader he is constantly forced to fight the toughest opponents. Zorro always coincidentally fights the swordsman and Sanji usually fights the 3rd strongest person. This leads many to believe that Luffy is stronger. But we can't tell for absolute sure who is truly stronger, if we made an argument of who is the stronger through NATURAL means the torch would go to Zorro hands down. Most of Luffy's physical attributes come from his Devil Fruit abilities. Sanji and Zorro do not have Devil Fruits abilities but do have the strength of one. If you think of Devil Fruits as like an eternal physical enhancement (in our world it would be like an eternal steroid of sorts) some would call him a cheater. Remember it was also said that Luffy's brother Ace could beat him well before he ate a devil's fruit himself. So back to my point, Luffy is the leader because of his character not ONLY his physical strength but that of his convictions. Remember when Usopp had a falling out with him, Zorro warned that if Luffy took it easy he no longer had the right to be captain. This supports the notion that they all follow him because he inspired them to pursue their dreams, and they agree with the convictions that he lives by and respect him for it. So lets leave these comments about he HAS to be the strongest because he is the leader it doesn't hold any real foundation on truth.
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Posted 7/22/08 , edited 7/22/08
No, Zoro won't be able to beat luffy. Though he is at a captain level.
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Posted 7/22/08
I REALLY DONT KNO WHO WUD WIN
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Posted 7/23/08
Luffy DID use a sword in the Thriller Bark arc, if only for a little while. And they wouldn't fight each other like that anyway, unless one of them was possessed or something. Either way, one of them would probably give up, rather than cut a nakama down.
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Umm no offense but Luffy can't beat Sanji and Zorro at the same time. First of all once again Sanji and Zorro have seen Luffy fight PLENTY of times. They know what he is capable of and wouldn't make stupid mistakes. Being Pirate King doesn't necessarily make you the strongest either. Think about this? Would the strongest pirate get captured and executed? Anyway Luffy's weakness is sharp objects which is exactly what Zorro weilds. To top it off Sanji kicks are strong enough to destroy a building. Luffy could never fight the two together if they worked together. The only way he could beat them is to make them fight amongst themselves and then take that opportunity to hit him with their best shot. But please remember that for some reason or another his crewmates have a VERY high tolerance for pain. Plain and simple Luffy is the captain because of what he stands for not because he is the strongest. But as the burden of being the leader he is constantly forced to fight the toughest opponents. Zorro always coincidentally fights the swordsman and Sanji usually fights the 3rd strongest person. This leads many to believe that Luffy is stronger. But we can't tell for absolute sure who is truly stronger, if we made an argument of who is the stronger through NATURAL means the torch would go to Zorro hands down. Most of Luffy's physical attributes come from his Devil Fruit abilities. Sanji and Zorro do not have Devil Fruits abilities but do have the strength of one. If you think of Devil Fruits as like an eternal physical enhancement (in our world it would be like an eternal steroid of sorts) some would call him a cheater. Remember it was also said that Luffy's brother Ace could beat him well before he ate a devil's fruit himself. So back to my point, Luffy is the leader because of his character not ONLY his physical strength but that of his convictions. Remember when Usopp had a falling out with him, Zorro warned that if Luffy took it easy he no longer had the right to be captain. This supports the notion that they all follow him because he inspired them to pursue their dreams, and they agree with the convictions that he lives by and respect him for it. So lets leave these comments about he HAS to be the strongest because he is the leader it doesn't hold any real foundation on truth.



*spoiler*

first of all, the pirate king wasnt captured, he had a disease dat wasnt cureable, and he told his crew to leav, and go on there own. the marines wanted to capture gold roger, to end the pirate age and gold roger knew, he gave himself up bcause he knew he was gonna die soon, he said thoes last words, to make sure that the pirate age wouldnt end with him.

this would be a really interesting match cause luffy and zoro never quit, this fight would go on for always and eternity, they both can handle it, they wont fall.

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Well whatever the source for your information is... (if what you say is true) then I am sure Luffy's grandfather Garp probably didn't agree with that (considering he wanted to catch Roger by his own strength not because of some disease) anyway a fight between Zorro and Luffy or Sanji and Luffy would be very interesting indeed. I agree on that note. But I don't agree with people thinking that its a closed book that Luffy would win. Sure he has Gear 2 which makes him AMAZINGLY FAST, and AMAZINGLY POWERFUL, (reminds me of kaioken from DBZ), but Zoro and Sanji each have new techniques of their own. The only difference is we never got to see the full potential of these new techniques because they were both used only ONCE and then their opponent was defeated. When Luffy used Gear 2 his opponent simply used his devil fruit and enhanced his own speed and power so we were able to see what Gear 2 could really do. Either way I'm sure we probably may never get to see a SERIOUS FIGHT between these guys. (Maybe Sanji and Zorro which is more likely).
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I mean all Zorro has to do is tell Nami he isn't going to pay her back and slap her with the butt of his sword (I know this is wishful thinking) in front of Sanji and then tell Nico Robin that he thinks she is wayy too calm all the time and that he doesn't trust her (which of course also would never happen to the extreme) then Sanji would simply get in one of those I'll die to protect the honor of a lady moments and there you have it, a SERIOUS fight. Want to bring out Sanji's full potential? Kill Nami and Nico but that really is going too far, and besides Nico really isn't easy to kill by any means. If you want a fight between Luffy and Zorro, have Zorro eat up all the food and then try to steal Luffy's food, and make him say "Give me that meat Luffy or I'll kill you." Thats all ya gotta do. I admit Luffy is more easily agitated, oh and the method I explained would enrage the whole crew too, just Sanji would take it more personal. Anyway thats my two cents.
Posted 7/31/08
lol luffy will win cuz he is the captain if the captain can't win from his minions =P why he would be the captain??
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I dont think luffy could fight Zoro seriously even when he fought zoro, when he forgot his memory
but on the other hand Zoro prolly has no reson to hold back on luffy
LUFFY WOULD WIN

if it was a completely serious luffy would win hands down

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Posted 8/2/08

ralx225b wrote:

I mean all Zorro has to do is tell Nami he isn't going to pay her back and slap her with the butt of his sword (I know this is wishful thinking) in front of Sanji and then tell Nico Robin that he thinks she is wayy too calm all the time and that he doesn't trust her (which of course also would never happen to the extreme) then Sanji would simply get in one of those I'll die to protect the honor of a lady moments and there you have it, a SERIOUS fight. Want to bring out Sanji's full potential? Kill Nami and Nico but that really is going too far, and besides Nico really isn't easy to kill by any means. If you want a fight between Luffy and Zorro, have Zorro eat up all the food and then try to steal Luffy's food, and make him say "Give me that meat Luffy or I'll kill you." Thats all ya gotta do. I admit Luffy is more easily agitated, oh and the method I explained would enrage the whole crew too, just Sanji would take it more personal. Anyway thats my two cents.


actually to make luffy serious u would have to destory his hat in front of him
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Posted 8/2/08
Luffy will own Zolo for breakfast.
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Posted 9/27/08
zoro has a cursed sword and a legendary swordman sword. So of course he can defeat luffy.
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Posted 10/1/08
i dont think u guys get it when they lost their memory....luffy had his but zoro lost his...NOW if luffy were to loose his and zoro wud loose his i bet luffy wud went all out and beat the crap out of zoro
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Posted 10/2/08
No, zoro is strong and allllways serious, but Imagen luffy in his serious mood, I think zoro will be dead
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