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if kaname body's was not really his, and he is the kuran ancestor who was resurected by rido in yuki's brother, i am curious what is his true form or what does he really look like? you know what i am saying? i am just curious because his situation was kinda like shizuka when she hid her body and transfer her soul in maria..another thing that bother's where is his true body????
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channetty wrote:

The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


Why don't you think it's romantic?
If you think ZeroxYuuki is a more romantic couple, how is it more romantic?



There hasn't been much relationship development between the two of them in the story beyond the technicality of pureblood customs. At first I thought it was cute that Yuuki has a crush on her savior, and that Kaname's really sweet for caring about a random human child - but then it was all set up by Kaname. What does Kaname like about Yuuki? He is really protective of her, but on the basis that she's a pureblood just like himself. What else? How did he *fall* in love?

I do think that Zero's love for Yuuki is more romantic, because he is equally protective of Yuuki. He's also fully aware that Yuuki likes Kaname, so hides his jealousy for her sake. ZeroxYuuki have more interaction and grew up taking care of one another. Though they seem to bicker a lot in the beginning, they're each concerned about the other. There is room for discovering deeper feelings.

But, some girls like the in-control guy while other girls like the behind-the-scenes-sacrifice type.

The story seems to be swinging in your favor though. We'll see whether the mangaka can change my mind.
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it wasn't explained yet in the manga why rido brought kaname back from the grave. also, it wasn't yet discussed why rido was going after yuuki too. all that was mentioned there was that rido "wanted the thickest kuran blood" and that he needed yuuki for a "sacrifice."

as a matter of facts the reason behind rido's actions had not been explained fully yet. its pretty clear though that the vampire council and the hunter's association has something to do with it. pretty interesting, huh.



I was waiting for someone to bring up the hunter's assoc! The head lady was chillin' with the Vampire Council. She's trying to kill Zero. I want to know why.
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do you think the manga will be over by the time season two gets out? . . . or do you think they'll end around the same time?
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zero isn't a pureblood...he became a vampire through shizuka(a pure blood) because she bite him...
but he isn't a pure blood...
yuuki is a pureblood...
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the kaname now his real body maybe is already gone..cause he just resurracted in the body of yuuki's real body...
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channetty wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:


channetty wrote:

The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


Why don't you think it's romantic?
If you think ZeroxYuuki is a more romantic couple, how is it more romantic?



There hasn't been much relationship development between the two of them in the story beyond the technicality of pureblood customs. At first I thought it was cute that Yuuki has a crush on her savior, and that Kaname's really sweet for caring about a random human child - but then it was all set up by Kaname. What does Kaname like about Yuuki? He is really protective of her, but on the basis that she's a pureblood just like himself. What else? How did he *fall* in love?

I do think that Zero's love for Yuuki is more romantic, because he is equally protective of Yuuki. He's also fully aware that Yuuki likes Kaname, so hides his jealousy for her sake. ZeroxYuuki have more interaction and grew up taking care of one another. Though they seem to bicker a lot in the beginning, they're each concerned about the other. There is room for discovering deeper feelings.

But, some girls like the in-control guy while other girls like the behind-the-scenes-sacrifice type.

The story seems to be swinging in your favor though. We'll see whether the mangaka can change my mind.





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dotaboy wrote:


channetty wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:


channetty wrote:

The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


Why don't you think it's romantic?
If you think ZeroxYuuki is a more romantic couple, how is it more romantic?



There hasn't been much relationship development between the two of them in the story beyond the technicality of pureblood customs. At first I thought it was cute that Yuuki has a crush on her savior, and that Kaname's really sweet for caring about a random human child - but then it was all set up by Kaname. What does Kaname like about Yuuki? He is really protective of her, but on the basis that she's a pureblood just like himself. What else? How did he *fall* in love?

I do think that Zero's love for Yuuki is more romantic, because he is equally protective of Yuuki. He's also fully aware that Yuuki likes Kaname, so hides his jealousy for her sake. ZeroxYuuki have more interaction and grew up taking care of one another. Though they seem to bicker a lot in the beginning, they're each concerned about the other. There is room for discovering deeper feelings.

But, some girls like the in-control guy while other girls like the behind-the-scenes-sacrifice type.

The story seems to be swinging in your favor though. We'll see whether the mangaka can change my mind.







No way! I totally disagree with your KanamexYuuki theory. Kaname has developed a love for Yuuki not because it is "set up" by him. He wanted to stay close by her side to protect her when she was young- so as he watched her grow up his feelings for her deepened over time. Kaname likes the fact that she is so kind and considerate of everyone elses feelings over her own. It is clearly obvious that Yuuki is not just another chess piece.

Anyway, I agree about what you said about Zero's love for Yuuki.
I like Zeros (characters) attributes as well so I am conflicted about who she should end up with
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Jess25 wrote:


dotaboy wrote:


channetty wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:


channetty wrote:

The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


Why don't you think it's romantic?
If you think ZeroxYuuki is a more romantic couple, how is it more romantic?



There hasn't been much relationship development between the two of them in the story beyond the technicality of pureblood customs. At first I thought it was cute that Yuuki has a crush on her savior, and that Kaname's really sweet for caring about a random human child - but then it was all set up by Kaname. What does Kaname like about Yuuki? He is really protective of her, but on the basis that she's a pureblood just like himself. What else? How did he *fall* in love?

I do think that Zero's love for Yuuki is more romantic, because he is equally protective of Yuuki. He's also fully aware that Yuuki likes Kaname, so hides his jealousy for her sake. ZeroxYuuki have more interaction and grew up taking care of one another. Though they seem to bicker a lot in the beginning, they're each concerned about the other. There is room for discovering deeper feelings.

But, some girls like the in-control guy while other girls like the behind-the-scenes-sacrifice type.

The story seems to be swinging in your favor though. We'll see whether the mangaka can change my mind.







No way! I totally disagree with your KanamexYuuki theory. Kaname has developed a love for Yuuki not because it is "set up" by him. He wanted to stay close by her side to protect her when she was young- so as he watched her grow up his feelings for her deepened over time. Kaname likes the fact that she is so kind and considerate of everyone elses feelings over her own. It is clearly obvious that Yuuki is not just another chess piece.

Anyway, I agree about what you said about Zero's love for Yuuki.
I like Zeros (characters) attributes as well so I am conflicted about who she should end up with






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Because Zero drank the blood from three purebloods he is not a Level E, he is technically a level D which consists of once human vampires who were able to control themselves better by drinking the blood from their masters.
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I think that yuuki will not end up with anybody, kaname might sarcrified to some vampiric war.
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Jess25 wrote:


dotaboy wrote:


channetty wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:


channetty wrote:

The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


Why don't you think it's romantic?
If you think ZeroxYuuki is a more romantic couple, how is it more romantic?



There hasn't been much relationship development between the two of them in the story beyond the technicality of pureblood customs. At first I thought it was cute that Yuuki has a crush on her savior, and that Kaname's really sweet for caring about a random human child - but then it was all set up by Kaname. What does Kaname like about Yuuki? He is really protective of her, but on the basis that she's a pureblood just like himself. What else? How did he *fall* in love?

I do think that Zero's love for Yuuki is more romantic, because he is equally protective of Yuuki. He's also fully aware that Yuuki likes Kaname, so hides his jealousy for her sake. ZeroxYuuki have more interaction and grew up taking care of one another. Though they seem to bicker a lot in the beginning, they're each concerned about the other. There is room for discovering deeper feelings.

But, some girls like the in-control guy while other girls like the behind-the-scenes-sacrifice type.

The story seems to be swinging in your favor though. We'll see whether the mangaka can change my mind.







No way! I totally disagree with your KanamexYuuki theory. Kaname has developed a love for Yuuki not because it is "set up" by him. He wanted to stay close by her side to protect her when she was young- so as he watched her grow up his feelings for her deepened over time. Kaname likes the fact that she is so kind and considerate of everyone elses feelings over her own. It is clearly obvious that Yuuki is not just another chess piece.

Anyway, I agree about what you said about Zero's love for Yuuki.
I like Zeros (characters) attributes as well so I am conflicted about who she should end up with


I'm saying that the interaction between Kaname and Yuuki as far as Yuuki could remember, before she was awakened, was all set up by him. He loved Yuuki practically ever since she was born, so he sent her to the chairman and set up the school for her. No she isn't a chess piece, and yes, his feelings are deep.

What was missing for me was the part where I found out that he's loved her since she was 5 years old (or even younger). It seemed like the relationship just kind of came that way. You can say the love was set up by their parents, or by the betrothal. So for me, it feels like he already loved a 5 yr old Yuuki and then good thing she turns out to be a kind and considerate teenager 10 years later. So... how did he know he loved her when she was only 5? I need to see flashbacks of them playing in the fields when they were younger or something.
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I want Yuuki to end up with Kaname, because she said in chapter 35 that she found it weird to be in love with her brother, and even kissed him in chapter 41.

But I have a feeling that she might end up with Zero.

Like after she became a vampire again, and she was able to sense Rima's blood, and she was relieved that it wasn't Zero's blood. To me, this shows that she really cares for him, though to what extent she most probably doesn't know yet.

But I really want her to end up with Kaname!

Kaname and Yuuki all the way!!!
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Omg, You mean the one in Kaname's body likes Yuuki? And wait, Since it's not Kaname himself, How does he even have the pureblood line. See, He tried to let Yuuki Become a pureblood once again, and Zero actually drank Kaname's blood. So what does that mean. Kaname's body is occupied by someone else? That's crazy.


well, the person occupying the body of yuuki's brother (the true kaname) is the "ancestor of kuran" (the present kaname). so he's a pureblood himself, and the strongest one among the kuran family, i bet.

that's why rido called kaname the "fake heir", i think. quite crazy, yeah, i agree.


Oh!
I see,
But wasn't Yuuki which have the power power thingy?
Cause if i remembered correctly,
Yuuki has some powers which Normal Purebloods doesn't have.
That's why her Mum erased her memory.
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florarox wrote:


kittypride wrote:


florarox wrote:

Omg, You mean the one in Kaname's body likes Yuuki? And wait, Since it's not Kaname himself, How does he even have the pureblood line. See, He tried to let Yuuki Become a pureblood once again, and Zero actually drank Kaname's blood. So what does that mean. Kaname's body is occupied by someone else? That's crazy.


well, the person occupying the body of yuuki's brother (the true kaname) is the "ancestor of kuran" (the present kaname). so he's a pureblood himself, and the strongest one among the kuran family, i bet.

that's why rido called kaname the "fake heir", i think. quite crazy, yeah, i agree.


Oh!
I see,
But wasn't Yuuki which have the power power thingy?
Cause if i remembered correctly,
Yuuki has some powers which Normal Purebloods doesn't have.
That's why her Mum erased her memory.


Really? I thought her powers were what like most pure bloods have and her mum erased her memories because Rido wants her for some unknown reason?
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