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i've been goin to many discussions and ppl say that Kaname is Yuuki's real brother but didn't Kaname say that he is not Yuuki's real brother because Rido (evil uncle) killed Yuuki's real brother's soul (not da body) and brought Kaname back from da grave and put it in da body??????
RIGHT????





Yesh yesh that is the right.

Rido stole Kaname as a child, killed the 'orginal' soul and replaced it with the soul of a kuran ancestor that he awoken. So kaname's body is Yuuki's brother, but his soul is like her great great great great grandpa. hehe

But I dont know why so many people are going all ANTI-INCEST, Yuuki's parents, committed incest, they were brother and sister.


I agree. It is just normal for pureblood vampires to marry someone from the family. People should think that this series/manga is that we are in a VAMPIRE WORLD not in the real world you know. And anything can happen... And it's like if the current kaname is the great great great grandpa, he's already a very very very far away relative of Yuuki and even in the real world, there are some people who are marrying their 3rd, 4th, 5th cousin or whatsoever.


Yeah, I like exploded in a thread once about the incest topic XD I wish people were open minded when reading the manga, and just I guess relate their decisions to the plot more rather than just being silly fangirls *sigh*


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OMG I just read chapter 41, it was quite short XD
I hope Zero will stop being emo and get his butt there and kill Rido D: <
Zero= Vampire Terminator lmao

I am scared for Kaname right now idk what he is going to do
And Rido has power over him, he might meddle with him and use him or something
I don't want Kaname to die~ ない、 ない あつ~

But let me say the chairman so looks like he is going to kick butt >: D
Next chapter seems so action packed : )
Well got wait till the end of july for chapter 42 ><;;
やだ、やだ~


I agree~ love this story but the way its going now, its just too hard to predict what's going to happen.
Though I root for Kaname x Yuuki,
i have a feeling it wont work out, and the main reason being Kaname might die at the hands of Rido

btw its also interesting to point out, while in the manga Yuuki's attraction or love to Kaname is a tad more emphasised compared to the anime - where its all emo Zero and Yuuki.....may be it is a hint that the end of this story (eventually) might be Yuuki x Zero afterall....


Haha yeah, anything goes right now, and I am getting a very bad vibe that it may end in tragedy
I never read Matsuri's other manga I was thinking about trying to find previous one she wrote and read it
If she has a trend of how love triangles unfold then maybe that could help predict who will rise on top

I actually started suspecting ZeroxYuuki will prolly end up together after Kaname killed Shizuka, because he has bad luck right now D;
and Ichiru and everyone else kept saying "Whoever killed Shizuka will die"
I hope Kaname will make it through *pout*


The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


And How do you people know that Kaname is the ancestor??


well, 1st of all, itz alrite if kaname nd yuuki r in love since technacially, hes not her bro. only his body is. 2nd of all, if ur bro wuz hot nd who had 2 marry him nd u kinda hav a crush on him, go for it. 3rd: im totally against kaname x yuuki. im a zero x yuuki fan. 4th: i hope kaname doesnt die so he can c yuuki get 2gether wit zero nd cause him pain watchin his love wit som other dude. 5th: we noe all of dis cuz we read da mangas.
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i've been goin to many discussions and ppl say that Kaname is Yuuki's real brother but didn't Kaname say that he is not Yuuki's real brother because Rido (evil uncle) killed Yuuki's real brother's soul (not da body) and brought Kaname back from da grave and put it in da body??????
RIGHT????





Yesh yesh that is the right.

Rido stole Kaname as a child, killed the 'orginal' soul and replaced it with the soul of a kuran ancestor that he awoken. So kaname's body is Yuuki's brother, but his soul is like her great great great great grandpa. hehe

But I dont know why so many people are going all ANTI-INCEST, Yuuki's parents, committed incest, they were brother and sister.


I agree. It is just normal for pureblood vampires to marry someone from the family. People should think that this series/manga is that we are in a VAMPIRE WORLD not in the real world you know. And anything can happen... And it's like if the current kaname is the great great great grandpa, he's already a very very very far away relative of Yuuki and even in the real world, there are some people who are marrying their 3rd, 4th, 5th cousin or whatsoever.


Yeah, I like exploded in a thread once about the incest topic XD I wish people were open minded when reading the manga, and just I guess relate their decisions to the plot more rather than just being silly fangirls *sigh*


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OMG I just read chapter 41, it was quite short XD
I hope Zero will stop being emo and get his butt there and kill Rido D: <
Zero= Vampire Terminator lmao

I am scared for Kaname right now idk what he is going to do
And Rido has power over him, he might meddle with him and use him or something
I don't want Kaname to die~ ない、 ない あつ~

But let me say the chairman so looks like he is going to kick butt >: D
Next chapter seems so action packed : )
Well got wait till the end of july for chapter 42 ><;;
やだ、やだ~


I agree~ love this story but the way its going now, its just too hard to predict what's going to happen.
Though I root for Kaname x Yuuki,
i have a feeling it wont work out, and the main reason being Kaname might die at the hands of Rido

btw its also interesting to point out, while in the manga Yuuki's attraction or love to Kaname is a tad more emphasised compared to the anime - where its all emo Zero and Yuuki.....may be it is a hint that the end of this story (eventually) might be Yuuki x Zero afterall....


Haha yeah, anything goes right now, and I am getting a very bad vibe that it may end in tragedy
I never read Matsuri's other manga I was thinking about trying to find previous one she wrote and read it
If she has a trend of how love triangles unfold then maybe that could help predict who will rise on top

I actually started suspecting ZeroxYuuki will prolly end up together after Kaname killed Shizuka, because he has bad luck right now D;
and Ichiru and everyone else kept saying "Whoever killed Shizuka will die"
I hope Kaname will make it through *pout*


The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


And How do you people know that Kaname is the ancestor??


well, 1st of all, itz alrite if kaname nd yuuki r in love since technacially, hes not her bro. only his body is. 2nd of all, if ur bro wuz hot nd who had 2 marry him nd u kinda hav a crush on him, go for it. 3rd: im totally against kaname x yuuki. im a zero x yuuki fan. 4th: i hope kaname doesnt die so he can c yuuki get 2gether wit zero nd cause him pain watchin his love wit som other dude. 5th: we noe all of dis cuz we read da mangas.


Well I must have skip a part cus I dont remember reading that...What chapter was it?? It would be funny if Yuuki fell for some total random person like Kain or a guy in the day class
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last-of-my-breed wrote:


raysilva wrote:


last-of-my-breed wrote:


channetty wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:


Blueice2412 wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:


pony200 wrote:

i've been goin to many discussions and ppl say that Kaname is Yuuki's real brother but didn't Kaname say that he is not Yuuki's real brother because Rido (evil uncle) killed Yuuki's real brother's soul (not da body) and brought Kaname back from da grave and put it in da body??????
RIGHT????





Yesh yesh that is the right.

Rido stole Kaname as a child, killed the 'orginal' soul and replaced it with the soul of a kuran ancestor that he awoken. So kaname's body is Yuuki's brother, but his soul is like her great great great great grandpa. hehe

But I dont know why so many people are going all ANTI-INCEST, Yuuki's parents, committed incest, they were brother and sister.


I agree. It is just normal for pureblood vampires to marry someone from the family. People should think that this series/manga is that we are in a VAMPIRE WORLD not in the real world you know. And anything can happen... And it's like if the current kaname is the great great great grandpa, he's already a very very very far away relative of Yuuki and even in the real world, there are some people who are marrying their 3rd, 4th, 5th cousin or whatsoever.


Yeah, I like exploded in a thread once about the incest topic XD I wish people were open minded when reading the manga, and just I guess relate their decisions to the plot more rather than just being silly fangirls *sigh*


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OMG I just read chapter 41, it was quite short XD
I hope Zero will stop being emo and get his butt there and kill Rido D: <
Zero= Vampire Terminator lmao

I am scared for Kaname right now idk what he is going to do
And Rido has power over him, he might meddle with him and use him or something
I don't want Kaname to die~ ない、 ない あつ~

But let me say the chairman so looks like he is going to kick butt >: D
Next chapter seems so action packed : )
Well got wait till the end of july for chapter 42 ><;;
やだ、やだ~


I agree~ love this story but the way its going now, its just too hard to predict what's going to happen.
Though I root for Kaname x Yuuki,
i have a feeling it wont work out, and the main reason being Kaname might die at the hands of Rido

btw its also interesting to point out, while in the manga Yuuki's attraction or love to Kaname is a tad more emphasised compared to the anime - where its all emo Zero and Yuuki.....may be it is a hint that the end of this story (eventually) might be Yuuki x Zero afterall....


Haha yeah, anything goes right now, and I am getting a very bad vibe that it may end in tragedy
I never read Matsuri's other manga I was thinking about trying to find previous one she wrote and read it
If she has a trend of how love triangles unfold then maybe that could help predict who will rise on top

I actually started suspecting ZeroxYuuki will prolly end up together after Kaname killed Shizuka, because he has bad luck right now D;
and Ichiru and everyone else kept saying "Whoever killed Shizuka will die"
I hope Kaname will make it through *pout*


The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


And How do you people know that Kaname is the ancestor??


well, 1st of all, itz alrite if kaname nd yuuki r in love since technacially, hes not her bro. only his body is. 2nd of all, if ur bro wuz hot nd who had 2 marry him nd u kinda hav a crush on him, go for it. 3rd: im totally against kaname x yuuki. im a zero x yuuki fan. 4th: i hope kaname doesnt die so he can c yuuki get 2gether wit zero nd cause him pain watchin his love wit som other dude. 5th: we noe all of dis cuz we read da mangas.


Well I must have skip a part cus I dont remember reading that...What chapter was it?? It would be funny if Yuuki fell for some total random person like Kain or a guy in the day class


i noe, rite? i wuld b soooooooooooo pissed if dat happened. but wat u said is funny. anyway, idk wat chapter it was in. i read it like 5 months ago or something like dat. but i do noe its between chap. 25-41
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well since he drank blood from all 3 purblood...., he is i think now consider the most powerful vampire hunter...i think
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hey uh cn anby tell me, whats the latest volume in the vampire knight manga? thanks loads:D


its volume 9. the first chapter on that vol is chap41, i think.


thnks! ;D
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The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


Why don't you think it's romantic?
If you think ZeroxYuuki is a more romantic couple, how is it more romantic?


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hmmmmm it would be sad if yuuki ends up with kaname......... zero suffers more than kaname


Okay this has really been bugging me D:
Like all ZeroxYuuki fans say Zero has suffered more than Kaname, but I don't see that actually :/
So I just want to have a friendly debate and ask
How has Zero suffered more than Kaname?

I'll give my opinion on the Kaname suffering VS Zero suffering if you respond.






if you really read the managa you should know that zero suffers more than kaname.... his parents were killed by a pureblood... he has been turned into a vampire which he hate most, his brother sided with shizuka hiou, yuuki whom he cared so much was a vampire, his grudge lasted 4 years, on top of that, he isnt the one who killed shizuka so his revenge really isnt complete and he is not satisfied with it.... and now his turning into a beast....


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if you really read the managa you should know that zero suffers more than kaname.... his parents were killed by a pureblood... he has been turned into a vampire which he hate most, his brother sided with shizuka hiou, yuuki whom he cared so much was a vampire, his grudge lasted 4 years, on top of that, he isnt the one who killed shizuka so his revenge really isnt complete and he is not satisfied with it.... and now his turning into a beast....




I did read manga like 20 times! This debate already starting out UN-friendly. *sigh*

And I know that Zero been through all that but I know I am not only who thinks this, but I believe Zero is a big emo kid, srsly. He has been through all that and continues to be pestimestic and have no drive to do anything. Someone always has to push his buttons for him to do something, and it annoys the hell out of me....In my opinion I think most of his suffering is caused by himself, because he is so narrowminded and his hate for vampires is beyond obession. Whether or not Shizuka was killed by his hands, shouldn't he be a little satisfied? Why does Yuuki being a vampire make him feel so betrayed? Is it because of his hate for everything not human. Just think its not her fault she born that way. D: Like I said I've been waiting for him do something BIG, because he rarely does... And the time frame of how much he has been suffering is only 4 years. =o=;;;

Now Kaname has been suffering since the day his body was born. Think about having call the lunatic Rido you're master and being unable to kill him to protect you're family. Then he had his body's parents killed, and then Yuuki forgets all about him. Atleast Ichiru remembered Zero after 4 years. Kaname had stuck by Yuuki's side protecting her for 10 years, without her remembering anything about him. It must have been extremely hard for him not awaken her in those 10 years. Think in the late 20, early 30 chapters, he was close to awakening her but he clenched a pillow to stop his desires. Yuuki forgetting all about him was basically "losing someone." So he was basically left all alone in a sense.

So yes Yuuki eases the pain for Zero...so she should go with him and leave Kaname alone and make him suffer even more? Well it doesn't matter who wins the "Sympathy Contest", because everyone has different opinions and you can't change their minds.

Like me for example I refuse to see Zero in any type of higher light over Kaname, because he hasn't done anything to show that he really loves Yuuki. Except when he hugged her and tried to kiss her. But that's about it.... Yuuki has always been the one catering to him.

END OF CONVERSATION Before claws come out and people start killing each other....
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I'll slide the topic from "who has most pain in their vampire ass" to this one:

They changed the scene, in the anime, where Zero drinks Kaname's blood. It's not as hot as it's supposed to be, although Zero's chained to the wall (me likes that one), but no Bloody Rose, dripping blood...

It hurts. I know they have to change stuff, speed up the chronolgy and all, but to ruin some perfectly made sceens just makes me suffer lol.
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I'll slide the topic from "who has most pain in their vampire ass" to this one:

They changed the scene, in the anime, where Zero drinks Kaname's blood. It's not as hot as it's supposed to be, although Zero's chained to the wall (me likes that one), but no Bloody Rose, dripping blood...

It hurts. I know they have to change stuff, speed up the chronolgy and all, but to ruin some perfectly made sceens just makes me suffer lol.


they actually did that???

oh my...if i ever see that im afraid id like the anime less and less (no offense to those who like the anime better). it was good in the beginning, sticking to the story most of the time and clarifying some of the points that are not so clear in the manga.

but to change the scenes...i started getting the feeling that the anime will stray a different path from the manga's story in ep12. i wonder why???
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they actually did that???

oh my...if i ever see that im afraid id like the anime less and less (no offense to those who like the anime better). it was good in the beginning, sticking to the story most of the time and clarifying some of the points that are not so clear in the manga.

but to change the scenes...i started getting the feeling that the anime will stray a different path from the manga's story in ep12. i wonder why???


As far as the story goes the anime has been following it, with minor difererences and a chronological fast forward, which we all do understand, but chainging the scene, and making Zero like he's fallen to level E, and Kaname just jumps right up to save him... I was like: WTF?!

Although there might be some other changes, but I watched it without subs, so the level of my understanding of dialouges was 2%.
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In regards to Kaname and Yuuki's sibling relationship, it's Kaname who isn't the son of Juuri and Haruka. Juuri says so herself in one of the flashbacks thought it was 35 but I was just looking and can't find it exactly now. Anyway, Juuri tells him... "You never became our cute child." And then later Kaname himself saying he wasn't born Yuuki's older brother, but that Rido awakened him from the grave. We also know that Rido took Haruka's and Juuri's first child. What happened with that child, we don't know. I just assumed that he put a different soul into Kaname's body.


EDIT: Found what I was looking for. Chapter 38 page 17 and it's actually Haruka who says it not Juuri. :)


.:*:.The child is Kaname. The body is Yuukis brother but the inside is Kaname. Does that make sense? When Rido raised Kaname from the grave he had to put him in a body and he put Kaname in Yuuki's brothers body. That is why Haruka said you killed my first child....

I would like to say it is similar to when Rido needed to borrow Shikis body. The only difference is due to unexplained reason(s) Kaname wasn't able to just borrow Yuuki's brothers body--it is his (kanames) for keeps.:*:.
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raysilva wrote:


last-of-my-breed wrote:


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loveroboticdoll wrote:


pony200 wrote:

i've been goin to many discussions and ppl say that Kaname is Yuuki's real brother but didn't Kaname say that he is not Yuuki's real brother because Rido (evil uncle) killed Yuuki's real brother's soul (not da body) and brought Kaname back from da grave and put it in da body??????
RIGHT????





Yesh yesh that is the right.

Rido stole Kaname as a child, killed the 'orginal' soul and replaced it with the soul of a kuran ancestor that he awoken. So kaname's body is Yuuki's brother, but his soul is like her great great great great grandpa. hehe

But I dont know why so many people are going all ANTI-INCEST, Yuuki's parents, committed incest, they were brother and sister.


I agree. It is just normal for pureblood vampires to marry someone from the family. People should think that this series/manga is that we are in a VAMPIRE WORLD not in the real world you know. And anything can happen... And it's like if the current kaname is the great great great grandpa, he's already a very very very far away relative of Yuuki and even in the real world, there are some people who are marrying their 3rd, 4th, 5th cousin or whatsoever.


Yeah, I like exploded in a thread once about the incest topic XD I wish people were open minded when reading the manga, and just I guess relate their decisions to the plot more rather than just being silly fangirls *sigh*


haz3y wrote:


loveroboticdoll wrote:

OMG I just read chapter 41, it was quite short XD
I hope Zero will stop being emo and get his butt there and kill Rido D: <
Zero= Vampire Terminator lmao

I am scared for Kaname right now idk what he is going to do
And Rido has power over him, he might meddle with him and use him or something
I don't want Kaname to die~ ない、 ない あつ~

But let me say the chairman so looks like he is going to kick butt >: D
Next chapter seems so action packed : )
Well got wait till the end of july for chapter 42 ><;;
やだ、やだ~


I agree~ love this story but the way its going now, its just too hard to predict what's going to happen.
Though I root for Kaname x Yuuki,
i have a feeling it wont work out, and the main reason being Kaname might die at the hands of Rido

btw its also interesting to point out, while in the manga Yuuki's attraction or love to Kaname is a tad more emphasised compared to the anime - where its all emo Zero and Yuuki.....may be it is a hint that the end of this story (eventually) might be Yuuki x Zero afterall....


Haha yeah, anything goes right now, and I am getting a very bad vibe that it may end in tragedy
I never read Matsuri's other manga I was thinking about trying to find previous one she wrote and read it
If she has a trend of how love triangles unfold then maybe that could help predict who will rise on top

I actually started suspecting ZeroxYuuki will prolly end up together after Kaname killed Shizuka, because he has bad luck right now D;
and Ichiru and everyone else kept saying "Whoever killed Shizuka will die"
I hope Kaname will make it through *pout*


The manga already said that vampires are beasts, and beasts mate with siblings. Whether body or soul, one piece of Kaname is still Yuuki's sibling, and the other piece is a g--g-g-g-grandfather. And while they do love one another and should keep the bloodline pure, I don't think the KanamexYuuki pairing is romantic.


And How do you people know that Kaname is the ancestor??


well, 1st of all, itz alrite if kaname nd yuuki r in love since technacially, hes not her bro. only his body is. 2nd of all, if ur bro wuz hot nd who had 2 marry him nd u kinda hav a crush on him, go for it. 3rd: im totally against kaname x yuuki. im a zero x yuuki fan. 4th: i hope kaname doesnt die so he can c yuuki get 2gether wit zero nd cause him pain watchin his love wit som other dude. 5th: we noe all of dis cuz we read da mangas.


Well I must have skip a part cus I dont remember reading that...What chapter was it?? It would be funny if Yuuki fell for some total random person like Kain or a guy in the day class


In regards to "And How do you people know that Kaname is the ancestor??":
.:*:.Kaname says that he is the -Ancestor Kuran- to Kain and Aidou. I dont remember what chapter it was that i read that...but Kaname says this himself.
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After reading ch 41 now I know that Kaname won't end up with Yuki they are probably going to kill him or some thing T-T …so that Yuki would end up with Zero

…… sigh …. I really want Yuki to be with Kaname
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After reading ch 41 now I know that Kaname won't end up with Yuki they are probably going to kill him or some thing T-T …so that Yuki would end up with Zero

…… sigh …. I really want Yuki to be with Kaname




omg SAME> it would be damn and when that happens. i just want to *kick* zero away. I don't get why he's so popular anyways.

So, Yukki + Kaname ALL THE WAY.
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Omg, You mean the one in Kaname's body likes Yuuki? And wait, Since it's not Kaname himself, How does he even have the pureblood line. See, He tried to let Yuuki Become a pureblood once again, and Zero actually drank Kaname's blood. So what does that mean. Kaname's body is occupied by someone else? That's crazy.
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