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Obama Supports Sex Education In Kindergarten
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Posted 6/15/08 , edited 6/18/08

Katorulez93 wrote:

its like gamerscore on xbox 360. just fun to have. im not gonna waste my time giving you full detail


to each his own, I guess.
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Posted 6/15/08
5 is very young to learn about these things but then again there are loads of young moms around as well (13-16years of age) so i guess the earlier the better... children these days (this generation) is far more advance than before, you'll be surprised on what they ask to their parents and thats just them being curious.
how sad but thats the truth.
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Posted 6/15/08
WOW such prudes. Sex education I think should stay within 5th grade to highschool.

But I knew about how babies were made at 3. And there is absolutely nothing aroung with me.

What the hell is wrong with you people trying to make barack sound like a bad person. Jesus.
Posted 6/15/08
the youngest girl to have a child was 5.
i dont remember her name, but it is a medical fact.
google it.

so, yeah.
i think kinder is a bit early, but certainly elementary school.
im not sure sex ed will reduce the amount of sex teens have. i think the real problem is the outside media, something schools have no ability to control.

he would be better off addressing sex in the media, i think.
Posted 6/15/08

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5 year olds are not old enough, and mentally mature enough (Their brains aren't very rational yet either) I don't understand why liberals want to destroy the innocents of children. Let them be 5. My goodness... they don't need to know about sex at age 5! Obama is just an idiot.


And kids don't need to be HAVING it at 12, but they do it anyway, don't let morals and things blind the facts.

Kids, even at young age's in todays society are exposed to tons of explicit and sexual content, regardless of how you try to raise them, or shelter them. Teaching children young, 5-10, could better help prepare them for the future. I had sex for the first time at 13, if I had known the risk, STD's, and many other things, I probably would of, but all I was told in sex ed is "This is a vagina blablalbalba you shouldn't have sex till your older blabalblaba" So yeah I think a more thorough and longer plan is needed.
Posted 6/15/08 , edited 6/18/08

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its like gamerscore on xbox 360. just fun to have. im not gonna waste my time giving you full detail


A Xbox Live gamerscore and get you free video games, can CR points get me free video games? HUH?!?! EH HUH?!?!?!?!
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how does gamerscore give you free video games? never heard of that. you must be talking about microsoft points
Posted 6/15/08

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how does gamerscore give you free video games? never heard of that. you must be talking about microsoft points


No, if your GS is high enough sometimes Microsoft has promotions, where they give out free things, and sometimes these free things are video games.
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5 year olds are not old enough, and mentally mature enough (Their brains aren't very rational yet either) I don't understand why liberals want to destroy the innocents of children. Let them be 5. My goodness... they don't need to know about sex at age 5! Obama is just an idiot.


um do you even read the article? by reading I mean actually setting aside the bullshit rhetoric. Can't you see this is some lame blown out of proportion play on words and definitions that are quite flexible?

but really, go ahead and generalize in a stereotypical manner, is on the same level as this article anyways.

what happened to openminded digs?

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Although I'm not sure where I stand on this very specific issue (later on in school, certainly, but 5-year-olds?), I can safely say that Romney's answer--to clean up the "cesspool"--is completely impractical.

I'd also like to add that Romney believes "religion is necessary for freedom." I'm not sure if there was a specific context in which this was said that would change its meaning, nor am I able to have a discussion with him myself; however, I'm definitely wary of statements like this, as they tend to reflect a mindset based not on necessity and utility, but moral absolutes. I bring this up because it is connected to his position on specific issues such as these (see the section of the original post regarding the need for teaching children that they must be married before being sexually active, for example). If he is going to push an agenda, he ought to at least have better reasoning behind it than simply "this should/must be done." At least Obama explains his stance...
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Posted 6/15/08
Amazing how many Republicans are willing to strike below the belt. Anyone who believes everything the media says should rethink or else they will simply be dumber than the dumb president we have now (lower IQ it is estimated than the ave decent college grad) and we want to elect a 3rd "Bush" who is about as old as my grandfather (who is losing his mind).


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Obama Supports Sex-Education in Kindergarten, Romney Strikes Back
"How much sex education is age appropriate for a 5-year-old? In my view, zero," Romney declares

By Elizabeth O'Brien

COLORADO SPRINGS, July 20, 2007 (LifeSiteNews. com) - As the presidential vote approaches, Democratic candidate Barack Obama and Republican candidate Mitt Romney are pitted against each other over the issue of the appropriateness of sex-education for kindergarten students.



Pro-abortion Senator Barack Obama addressed a Planned Parenthood Action Fund group on Tuesday, saying, "It's the right thing to do," to provide "age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools." Obama said he believes that children need information when they are young so that they can protect themselves from sexual predators.



Romney struck back while campaigning in Colorado Springs, asking, "How much sex education is age appropriate for a 5-year-old?" Romney stated, "In my view, zero is the right amount. Instead of teaching about sex education in kindergarten to 5-year-olds let's clean up the ocean of filth, the cesspool in which our children are swimming.

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"Let's let our 5-year olds be 5-year olds," said Romney's spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom. "When students are old enough for sex education they should be taught abstinence as part of their health curriculum and that marriage should come before babies.

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Obama defended himself saying, "All I said was that I support the same laws that exist in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, in which local communities and parents can make decisions to provide children with the information they need to deal with sexual predators," the Boston Globe reports. As Illinois State Senator, Obama approved legislation that would allow sex-education in kindergarten rather than grades 6 to 12 only.



During his governorship of Massachusetts, Romney actively supported abstinence education in addition to sex-education (see http://www. boston. com/news/education/k_12/articles/2005/12/2...).

On the other hand, ABC also reports that in a 2002 Planned Parenthood questionnaire, Romney checked yes to the following question: "Do you support the teaching of responsible, age-appropriate, factually accurate health and sexuality education, including information about both abstinence and contraception, in public schools?"

Romney, who professes to have had a demonstrative, but recent turn-around in his moral views, has called himself "firmly pro-life". Despite this and his present conservative stand against Obama on the matter of sex-education, Romney has met with considerable suspicion from conservatives and is being forced to work hard to reassure many voters who are uneasy due to a history of waffling on traditional values.





See ABC News coverage:
http://www. abcnews. go. com/Politics/WireStory?id=3395323&...

The Romney Report: An Analysis of Republican Mitt Romney's Legacy on Life and Family

Part 1: Romney and his Pro-life Position
http://www. lifesitenews. com/ldn/2007/may/07050711. html

The Romney Report: An In-Depth Analysis of Mitt Romney's Legacy on Life and Family Continued: Part II
http://www. lifesitenews. com/ldn/2007/may/07051409. html

Senators Clinton, Obama, say "Homosexuality is Moral"
http://www. lifesitenews. com/ldn/2007/mar/07031606. html

"Talking about Touching" Sex-Ed Opponent Fr.

Altier Writes to Spirit Daily
http://www. lifesitenews. com/ldn/2006/mar/06030809. html


Is this somebody you would really want in the white house? I mean, come one people. Seriously.


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Posted 6/16/08
Lol so because of this you dont want Obama in office? Teaching children sex education is wrong but having a president *cough* *cough* launching unconstitutional wars based on lies in other countries is completly ok while draining the shit out of our economy? Lol wait a minute something isnt adding up here.
Posted 6/16/08

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Teaching children sex education is wrong but having a president *cough* *cough* launching unconstitutional wars based on lies in other countries is completly ok while draining the shit out of our economy?

Trying to tie these two issues together is ridiculous since they are completely unrelated.

Based on that article (I didn't read any of the other links) it sounds like Obama is not openly advocating sex ed for 5 year-olds, but he refuses to oppose it above the local level. Normally I wouldn't object to giving more options to local government, but I have to wonder about his motivations here. After all it sounds like he's not so interested in offering local government more freedom to decide gun control policies for example.

Sex ed is probably a bad idea at 5 years old. Elementary school teachers know that even k-3rd grade kids will "try things" on the playground and this happens routinely. I'm not convinced that sex ed would reduce that.

Lastly, I don't see any way Obama can possibly win this election. He's just too radical and too wrapped up with too many lunatic fringe things. Jewish people who normally vote democrat are mostly not going to vote for him due to his apparent anti-Israel stance. That by itself is probably enough to lose him the election since elections are won and lost by very small margins. On top of that you have many white people who probably aren't comfortable with a black president for purely racist reasons, then you have more white people who aren't racist who aren't going to be convinced that he isn't a racist after attending what appears to be a racist church for 20 years. Then you have other minorities who will probably be concerned with his apparent racism as well. (Yes there is racism between certain minority groups; it isn't all white-on-minority racism.)
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^I am not even an Obama supporter to be honest but yes I can tie these 2 issues because the OP started a thread about sex ed and at the end of the thread he asks "Can we really afford to put this guy in office?" And my arguement is this issue is far to small compared to what Mccain will do in office thus I will continue to tie issues together. IMO Obama and Mccain both will sustain the status quo of the failing economy but I believe Obama will do less damage then Mccain.

Back on topic compared to Mccain is going to do to this economy I would rather Obama in office to allow this sex education.
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Posted 6/16/08
Obama is a moron if he thinks 5 year olds are going to need sex education at the age of 5!!!!!
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