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horaaaaaaayyy for the gay people!
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Okay, this is going to sound mean but... I find gays morally wrong.
Men and women are meant to be by nature and morals.
If the whole world turns gay, how will we survive =O
Gay/lesbian sex... ewwwwwww


How can you decide what's morally wrong?
And how can you decide what is moral? I don't see how men and women are meant to be together by morals, sure, by nature, but morals?
Moral: Concerned with the principles of right and wrong behaviour and the goodness or badness of a human character.

Yes, men and women are meant to be together due to a sexual attraction that will cause reproduction. As in, the population will create more generations after it. Other animals can display homosexual behaviour, though we don't know if it's because the animals are homosexual themselves, as it's more probably they just have an overwhelming sexual urge. But still, the laws of 'nature' didn't stop them from engaging in a sexual act. According to this quick research, some animals are outcasted if they don't engage in the activity of homosexual eroticism.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/jun/16/thisweekssciencequestions2
http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php
http://current.com/items/89627119/gay_penguins_given_own_eggs_to_care_for.htm] - not so sure about this one being true or not.

But if 'nature' seems to be displaying something homosexual, how is it against nature for humans to do it as well?


If the whole world turns gay? That's a stupid 'point'. Of course the whole world won't turn gay. While we're on that topic what if the whole world were straight? We're already over populated, if there even more because of more straight people we would grow a lot faster and run out of resources faster (even if only a little faster). How will we survive?

It's only gross to you because you are closed minded and can't accept other people. And I'm not aiming this just at you, but to anyone who feels it is immorally wrong. Especially the creator, I challenge anyone here to give me a good reason as to why it's 'wrong'.
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cerisey wrote:
Especially the creator, I challenge anyone here to give me a good reason as to why it's 'wrong'.


Get ready to dodge some Bibles.
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sexuality is a choice
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gays are disgusting and scary people, even if i am not a christian i will still think of it as disgusting ewwww
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gays are disgusting and scary people, even if i am not a christian i will still think of it as disgusting ewwww



then fear me darling

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cerisey wrote:

How can you decide what's morally wrong?
And how can you decide what is moral? I don't see how men and women are meant to be together by morals, sure, by nature, but morals?
Moral: Concerned with the principles of right and wrong behaviour and the goodness or badness of a human character.


Now let me just make myself clear to you, since you didn't get it the first time round.

Pm_X wrote:
Okay, this is going to sound mean but... I find gays morally wrong.


I said "I", therefore I can decide what morality means to ME.
I find gays wrong, but in your sense of morality, it might be right.


cerisey wrote:
Yes, men and women are meant to be together due to a sexual attraction that will cause reproduction. As in, the population will create more generations after it. Other animals can display homosexual behaviour, though we don't know if it's because the animals are homosexual themselves, as it's more probably they just have an overwhelming sexual urge. But still, the laws of 'nature' didn't stop them from engaging in a sexual act. According to this quick research, some animals are outcasted if they don't engage in the activity of homosexual eroticism.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/jun/16/thisweekssciencequestions2
http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php
http://current.com/items/89627119/gay_penguins_given_own_eggs_to_care_for.htm] - not so sure about this one being true or not.
But if 'nature' seems to be displaying something homosexual, how is it against nature for humans to do it as well?


I never knew animals can be GAY xD. I’ve always known that the only natural way of animal sex is female and male...so animals taking part in homosexual acts really surprises me.


cerisey wrote:
If the whole world turns gay? That's a stupid 'point'. Of course the whole world won't turn gay. While we're on that topic what if the whole world were straight? We're already over populated, if there even more because of more straight people we would grow a lot faster and run out of resources faster (even if only a little faster). How will we survive?


Wasn't really a point, I was just demonstrating the worst scenario possible, haha. As for having the whole world as straights...yes we will be over populated. There will be the survival of the fittest, therefore some will die and some will survive, so humans will continue to die out till there are enough resources to be shared. Then we will survive once again. =)

HAVING THE WHOLE WORLD GAY HOWEVER, will not work. There will be no reproduction, no life. World ends. But I guess by the time that happens, the gays will come to their senses and start making babies with the opposite sex.


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It's only gross to you because you are closed minded and can't accept other people.


LOL. Well yes I do find it quite gross for men to bum each other, but does that make me close minded?
Couldn't I call you close minded for not accepting the fact that some people may have different views on gays?
I don't actually discriminate gay people but the thought of their sexual activities and such makes me shiver - please don't argue on my opinion. It's like me arguing whether or not it is right for you to dislike cola.


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And I'm not aiming this just at you, but to anyone who feels it is immorally wrong. Especially the creator, I challenge anyone here to give me a good reason as to why it's 'wrong'.


Challenging on other's opinion I see...I'd love to see you try.
Posted 2/18/09

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cerisey wrote:

How can you decide what's morally wrong?
And how can you decide what is moral? I don't see how men and women are meant to be together by morals, sure, by nature, but morals?
Moral: Concerned with the principles of right and wrong behaviour and the goodness or badness of a human character.


Now let me just make myself clear to you, since you didn't get it the first time round.

Pm_X wrote:
Okay, this is going to sound mean but... I find gays morally wrong.


I said "I", therefore I can decide what morality means to ME.
I find gays wrong, but in your sense of morality, it might be right.


I get that, in my mind gays aren't necessarily right or wrong. I'm just curious about your reasoning for deciding it's wrong, I know of the 'nature' thing with men and women reproducing, but I don't feel that nature alone is a reason when we as humans have emotions and what not.



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cerisey wrote:
It's only gross to you because you are closed minded and can't accept other people.


LOL. Well yes I do find it quite gross for men to bum each other, but does that make me close minded?
Couldn't I call you close minded for not accepting the fact that some people may have different views on gays?
I don't actually discriminate gay people but the thought of their sexual activities and such makes me shiver - please don't argue on my opinion. It's like me arguing whether or not it is right for you to dislike cola.


I accept the fact people have different views on gays (to a certain extent), I just like to challenge their reasoning, and I feel arguing on an opinion is quite OK when there is a reason behind the opinion to argue on. The opinion alone? Not so much. But arguing over someone liking or disliking cola is surely not going to offend anyone, unlike saying Gays are morally wrong - that's bound to offend someone. :/


Pm_X wrote:

cerisey wrote:
And I'm not aiming this just at you, but to anyone who feels it is immorally wrong. Especially the creator, I challenge anyone here to give me a good reason as to why it's 'wrong'.


Challenging on other's opinion I see...I'd love to see you try.


I like trying :D
In saying that, you are right about the opinion thing, and I reacted a bit, err quickly. (I need a better vocab)
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cerisey wrote:

I get that, in my mind gays aren't necessarily right or wrong. I'm just curious about your reasoning for deciding it's wrong, I know of the 'nature' thing with men and women reproducing, but I don't feel that nature alone is a reason when we as humans have emotions and what not.


You are true about human emotions...it's the most f'ed up thing ever. I can understand that human emotions can make people do things, from incest to being gay.


cerisey wrote:
I accept the fact people have different views on gays (to a certain extent), I just like to challenge their reasoning, and I feel arguing on an opinion is quite OK when there is a reason behind the opinion to argue on. The opinion alone? Not so much. But arguing over someone liking or disliking cola is surely not going to offend anyone, unlike saying Gays are morally wrong - that's bound to offend someone. :/


Uh uh... hating cola may seem unimportant to you, but you never know. It may upset people as much you may get upset about people's view on gays. Lol

The reasons why I think gays are wrong are because of many things people may have said already. I've been brought up into a society that has viewed it as wrong or even a joke, so it does have an impact on me.

Then again, are there really such things as right or wrong? Things are only right or wrong if you think it is.

But in a few decade times, the society’s view on gays probably will change and they probably will be more accepted – making them “right”, just like how women being able to do things men were supposed to do, is now seemed “right”.
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The Bible does not suggest that you have relations with your relatives. They did it when there was only two people in creation (what else were they supposed to do? God allowed it because it was part of His plan) God is very clear when it comes to sexual immorality.


Did you even read the Bible?
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digs wrote:

The Bible does not suggest that you have relations with your relatives. They did it when there was only two people in creation (what else were they supposed to do? God allowed it because it was part of His plan) God is very clear when it comes to sexual immorality.


Did you even read the Bible?


Yes, I actually finished reading through the whole Bible in October.
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digs wrote:


mauigrown wrote:


digs wrote:

The Bible does not suggest that you have relations with your relatives. They did it when there was only two people in creation (what else were they supposed to do? God allowed it because it was part of His plan) God is very clear when it comes to sexual immorality.


Did you even read the Bible?


Yes, I actually finished reading through the whole Bible in October.


oh cool right on man. I was just wonderin, how many times does an average religious person read the bible from start to finish?
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Posted 2/18/09 , edited 2/18/09

mauigrown wrote:


digs wrote:


mauigrown wrote:


digs wrote:

The Bible does not suggest that you have relations with your relatives. They did it when there was only two people in creation (what else were they supposed to do? God allowed it because it was part of His plan) God is very clear when it comes to sexual immorality.


Did you even read the Bible?


Yes, I actually finished reading through the whole Bible in October.


oh cool right on man. I was just wonderin, how many times does an average religious person read the bible from start to finish?


I'm not sure, I guess it depends on the individual. I read through the Bible and now I mainly read the Book of Psalms and New Testament Books to keep me in the Word and to continue to learn from it. I'm not sure how often the average Christian reads through the Bible (some don't read it much though).
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cerisey wrote:

I get that, in my mind gays aren't necessarily right or wrong. I'm just curious about your reasoning for deciding it's wrong, I know of the 'nature' thing with men and women reproducing, but I don't feel that nature alone is a reason when we as humans have emotions and what not.


You are true about human emotions...it's the most f'ed up thing ever. I can understand that human emotions can make people do things, from incest to being gay.


cerisey wrote:
I accept the fact people have different views on gays (to a certain extent), I just like to challenge their reasoning, and I feel arguing on an opinion is quite OK when there is a reason behind the opinion to argue on. The opinion alone? Not so much. But arguing over someone liking or disliking cola is surely not going to offend anyone, unlike saying Gays are morally wrong - that's bound to offend someone. :/


Uh uh... hating cola may seem unimportant to you, but you never know. It may upset people as much you may get upset about people's view on gays. Lol

The reasons why I think gays are wrong are because of many things people may have said already. I've been brought up into a society that has viewed it as wrong or even a joke, so it does have an impact on me.

Then again, are there really such things as right or wrong? Things are only right or wrong if you think it is.

But in a few decade times, the society’s view on gays probably will change and they probably will be more accepted – making them “right”, just like how women being able to do things men were supposed to do, is now seemed “right”.


heh, it'd be great to see someone get offended over cola, though I suppose that's possible (maybe not as common but still XD)

that's true, even with the women thing it still has controversy so everything takes time to be decided in society as a whole (whether it's good or bad, or just allowed)
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duh....already knew that
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