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Let us not forget Generational curses:

Exodus 34:6-7 - "And He [the Lord] passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, 'The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet He does not leave the guilty unpunished; He punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.' "

Deuteronomy 11:26-28 - "See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse - the blessing if you obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you today; the curse if you disobey the commands of the Lord your God and turn from the way that I command you today by following other gods, which you have not known."

Generational curses are judgments that are passed on to individuals because of sins perpetuated in a family in a number of generations. Generational curses are similar to original sin curses because they can be passed down on a generational basis. They differ in that generational curses do not impose eternal judgment. They bring judgment or bondage during an individual's life, reducing the quality of life, until that individual addresses the sin issues that put the curses into place.

Moses addressed this issue when the Israelites were preparing to enter the promised land. He told the new generation that was preparing to enter in that they would not enter unless they dealt with their own personal sins and also the sins of their fathers. The account can be found in Leviticus 26:39-42

"Those of you who are left will waste away in the lands of their enemies because of their sins; also because of their fathers' sin they will waste away. But if they will confess their sins and the sins of their fathers - their treachery against me and their hostility toward me, which made me hostile toward them so that I sent them into the land of their enemies - then when their uncircumcised hearts are humbled and they pay for their sin, I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land."

Curses take away the quality of life. They can bring failure, shame, sickness and even physical death. They are temporal in nature, causing much grief. They are administered to get our attention and encourage us to turn back to God. Those who are humbled by them, repent and find restoration and renewed freedom from the Lord. Those who become angry, self-righteous and rebel against what God has permitted, and thus remain unrepentant, go deeper into bondage and darkness.

The Scriptures reveal a two prong approach for dealing with generational bondage. We have to address (1) Personal sins and also (2) Generational sins (in the family).

At this point, I know that many Christians will reason, "I thought that all the past is under the blood when I received Jesus as my Savior!" As far as your salvation and eternal destiny is concerned, that is true. But our enemy loves to cause us grief when there are sins connected to our lives (personal or generational) that has not been addressed through repentance and confession. Do you remember that time when you received Jesus into your life? You acknowledged your sin in a general way and asked Him to be your Savior and forgive you and cleanse you. The Lord was very gracious with your general confession, but later on the Holy Spirit began to convict you of sins in your past. You were led to repent of them and confess them specifically to the Lord. Why did the Spirit do that? He wanted you to be free of any legal claims of the enemy upon your life. It had nothing to do with your salvation, but the quality and freedom of your new life in Christ.

Why does God permit the enemy to do be such a hindrance? Because the Lord, in His sovereignty, can use even the enemy's activities to accomplish something good in our lives. Some of the effects include chastisement, testing of faith, a guard against complacency, humility, and the motivation to pursue a sanctified life. I recommend reading Romans 8 to find out how we are able to do so, as his children.

*yawn* I'm tired... Rest sounds good...lol
Posted 5/25/09
Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual Christians that are proud of their sexuality is like Killers for Christ.
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Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual Christians that are proud of their sexuality is like Killers for Christ.


What about Christians who take pride in how many girls/guys they've slept with? What about Christians who have pride in having tons of money that they flaunt and waste while people are starving right under their noses? What about Christians who take pride in pointing out other people's sins and casting judgment upon them while ignoring their own sins and thinking that they are more righteous?

I'm pretty sure that those are all sins, and a fairly large number of Christians take pride in at least one of those.
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Posted 5/26/09

Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darnell1 wrote:

Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual Christians that are proud of their sexuality is like Killers for Christ.


What about Christians who take pride in how many girls/guys they've slept with? What about Christians who have pride in having tons of money that they flaunt and waste while people are starving right under their noses? What about Christians who take pride in pointing out other people's sins and casting judgment upon them while ignoring their own sins and thinking that they are more righteous?

I'm pretty sure that those are all sins, and a fairly large number of Christians take pride in at least one of those.


I am pretty sure those Christians you pointed out get criticized by other Christians as well. That behavior doesnt get ignored just because they are Christians. If you see a Christian taking pride in who he slept with then you know he isnt really into his religion. He probably is just following it because he was raised that way.
Posted 5/26/09

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Darnell1 wrote:

Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual Christians that are proud of their sexuality is like Killers for Christ.


What about Christians who take pride in how many girls/guys they've slept with? What about Christians who have pride in having tons of money that they flaunt and waste while people are starving right under their noses? What about Christians who take pride in pointing out other people's sins and casting judgment upon them while ignoring their own sins and thinking that they are more righteous?

I'm pretty sure that those are all sins, and a fairly large number of Christians take pride in at least one of those.


Still Homosexual Christians is like Killers for Christ.
Posted 5/26/09

Darnell1 wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darnell1 wrote:

Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual Christians that are proud of their sexuality is like Killers for Christ.


What about Christians who take pride in how many girls/guys they've slept with? What about Christians who have pride in having tons of money that they flaunt and waste while people are starving right under their noses? What about Christians who take pride in pointing out other people's sins and casting judgment upon them while ignoring their own sins and thinking that they are more righteous?

I'm pretty sure that those are all sins, and a fairly large number of Christians take pride in at least one of those.


Still Homosexual Christians is like Killers for Christ.


How sad that some christians who are meant to be so "good", "perfect", and "sinless", turn out to be the most hateful and discriminating.
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I am pretty sure those Christians you pointed out get criticized by other Christians as well. That behavior doesnt get ignored just because they are Christians. If you see a Christian taking pride in who he slept with then you know he isnt really into his religion. He probably is just following it because he was raised that way.


The Christians who criticize the Christians that I pointed out aren't any better, since in Christianity it is a sin to judge others. I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of those holier-than-thou types who are always pointing out other people's sins to try and make themselves look like perfect angels, even though they commit just as many sins as anyone else. I pointed that out because I thought that the person that I quoted was trying to imply that since homosexuality is a sin then they shouldn't be allowed to get married, and by that reasoning no one should be allowed to get married because we're all sinners according to the Bible.
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Posted 5/26/09

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drizza wrote:

I am pretty sure those Christians you pointed out get criticized by other Christians as well. That behavior doesnt get ignored just because they are Christians. If you see a Christian taking pride in who he slept with then you know he isnt really into his religion. He probably is just following it because he was raised that way.


The Christians who criticize the Christians that I pointed out aren't any better, since in Christianity it is a sin to judge others. I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of those holier-than-thou types who are always pointing out other people's sins to try and make themselves look like perfect angels, even though they commit just as many sins as anyone else. I pointed that out because I thought that the person that I quoted was trying to imply that since homosexuality is a sin then they shouldn't be allowed to get married, and by that reasoning no one should be allowed to get married because we're all sinners according to the Bible.


Well true if I dont believe anyone should pass judgement unto others. I do believe homosexuality is a sin but I cant say you will go to hell for it either I am not God. You can be a homosexual and be the nicest person in the world so would God punish you hard for that one only sin because no human being will be perfect we all sin? Those religious leaders are hypocrits trying to gather a lot of followers and make a quick buck. But I know some who are sincerely good and still denouce this behavior. Like I said on the past thread religion is very hard to bring up here because there are those who come from different religious backgrounds and those who dont have one at all. The best is science on this topic.
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Like I said on the past thread religion is very hard to bring up here because there are those who come from different religious backgrounds and those who dont have one at all. The best is science on this topic.


Religion is the whole reason why we have this issue, the only reason why gay marriage is a controversy is because religious people are making it into one. So it is inevitable that religion is brought into this subject.

I don't get how science fits into this issue, since it is about morality and eqaul rights, and science doesn't deal with either of those.
Posted 5/26/09

cerisey wrote:


Darnell1 wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Darnell1 wrote:

Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual Christians that are proud of their sexuality is like Killers for Christ.


What about Christians who take pride in how many girls/guys they've slept with? What about Christians who have pride in having tons of money that they flaunt and waste while people are starving right under their noses? What about Christians who take pride in pointing out other people's sins and casting judgment upon them while ignoring their own sins and thinking that they are more righteous?

I'm pretty sure that those are all sins, and a fairly large number of Christians take pride in at least one of those.


Still Homosexual Christians is like Killers for Christ.


How sad that some christians who are meant to be so "good", "perfect", and "sinless", turn out to be the most hateful and discriminating.


How sad that some Christians who are meant to be so "good", "perfect", and "sinless", turn out to be the most hateful and discriminating.
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...Why did you just repeat exactly what I said?
Posted 5/26/09
Sorry. People are discriminating plus Homosexual cuts human population growth like killing with out the being arrested thing.
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to a christian the bible is true so if you want to disagree with the bible you can go ahead.



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I believe you have just kicked yourself in the nuts. BTW, if god created man within his image and he disapproves of homosexuality, why is the male gasm spot located within the rectum? I mean, wouldn't that reveal a little something something about god himself? Maybe he likes using the back door, gets a few giggles out of it. I find no harm in having a god who doesn't discriminate genders and is truly omnibenevolent.



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Sorry. People are discriminating plus Homosexual cuts human population growth like killing with out the being arrested thing.


No one cares if population growth is being cut down by the homosexual community, at least those whose opinions matter! -- even tho I am itching to raise a little counter with throwing nice factoids around such as lesbian couples choosing to become artificially inseminated in order to achieve the same results as heterosexual couples when it comes to popping babies out of the hatch. The same effect can be achieved by gays with a surrogate mother. Granted, homos would have a terribly difficult time combining the genetic makeup of both parents into a child, but that doesn't mean that as a married couple, they would all pass up on becoming a parent. Irregardless, your original statement is a bit moronic, I actually mean completely moronic, since the decision as to whether or not you want to have a child doesn't lie in your sexual preference. It lies within your self.

Anyway, if you're so worried about the count of human heads, you needn't fret since I'm sure that we've all heard the saying "if you line up every Chinese person in a line and start counting them, the line would be endless because they'd reproduce too fast." Sleep easy tonight.



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Sorry. People are discriminating plus Homosexual cuts human population growth like killing with out the being arrested thing.


Homosexuals make up a very small percentage of the Earth's population, so they aren't having a big impact on birth rates either way. For every gay couple not having kids, there's a heterosexual couple having 4-10 kids to make up for it. Yes I just pulled that statistic out of my ass, but I'm pretty sure that the amount of people having tons of kids is greater than or equal to the amount of people who aren't having kids, and you can see that by how orphanages tend to be crowded. And like someone else said earlier, homosexual couples are having kids through artificial insemination, so many of them are adding to the population. Even if none of them were, we definitely aren't in any danger of being underpopulated. If we ever had to worry about the population declining due to lack of reproduction, most of the blame would lie on the heterosexual people who aren't reproducing, which is becoming more common.

Its not killing because they aren't taking lives. Not making life isn't the same as taking away life. By saying that they are killers for not reproducing, you're also saying that infertile people are murderers, people who can't reproduce due to other physical/mental health issues are murderers, kids who never live long enough to reproduce are murderers, and heterosexuals who choose not to have kids or never have the opportunity to have kids are murderers. Even if you add up all of the people who can't/aren't reproducing, the amount of people who are having kids is significantly higher.
Posted 5/27/09
guys...Darnell1 is a troll. Would be wise to just ignore his ignorance.
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