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Posted 10/14/08

Bakatron wrote:

Oh hey I get to use this again




LMFAO

I think being gay isn't a sin. I think gays should be allowed to get into heaven. They'd make it fabulous.
The gays have been kind to me over the past 100 years and it'd be a shame if I had to spend the rest of eternity without them.

Also, dunno if anyone has mentioned this yet because I certainly didn't read every reply but I believe it says in the bible that a woman must marry her rapist.
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Reiband wrote:


Bakatron wrote:

Oh hey I get to use this again




LMFAO

I think being gay isn't a sin. I think gays should be allowed to get into heaven. They'd make it fabulous.
The gays have been kind to me over the past 100 years and it'd be a shame if I had to spend the rest of eternity without them.

Also, dunno if anyone has mentioned this yet because I certainly didn't read every reply but I believe it says in the bible that a woman must marry her rapist.
WTF?


Wow, you are really old...
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Wow, you are really old...


I know, right?!
I may be 100 but I feel like a 19 year old!!~
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Ill provide some links that proves that gays arent born gay,


Oh boy this is going to be good.



I was wrong! :P


You and I seem to have different ideas of what constitutes "proof". What you have here is, more or less, something that you’ve heard from a very reliable friend of a friend of a man you met down the pub. Who recorded his (their) opinions 2000+ years ago.

That's all this Biblical "proof" is just mistranslations (surprisingly frequent!) of the opinions of a society that hasn't existed for centuries.

http://www.whosoever.org/bible/index.shtml

(has multiple sections see bottom of the page)

You may say that if it was good enough for our great^n ancestors then it's good enough for us. But our grandparent’s generation frequently suffered Tuberculosis. That doesn't mean we're gonna stop taking our inoculations. Institutionalised racism too... we don't want that do we?

Incidentally it always makes me chuckle to hear black Christians, two groups that have suffered hugely at the hands of oppressive societies, being bigoted towards any one.

This video is full of contradictions (god created sex which is good but fornication is worng? ) stawman arguments and the like he tells us that "cleary x" when he has failed to make it clear or even bothered to explain it. Genetics? What nonsense! Demonic possession is far more likely!

His "proof" is nothing more than a statement of belief. I believe. I believe. I believe. Which somehow, he believes (lol), automatically makes it right. It is true because I believe it. Homosexuality is bad because I say so. I'm glad we have finely found someone so perfect that we can take his word as fact without a second thought.

I love his argument for the unnaturally of homosexuality (not an actual argument, in fact only related to the topic by implication) We have authority over all the animals do we? Then go command the animals not to have recreational homosexual sex. See where that gets you. Also he could really do with paying attention in Highschool biology...

"I don't believe that homosexuality is a choice"

I'm all cut up over this. Really.

"I find it hard to believe"

I can tell. I couldn’t care.

"People can chose what they want to be"

Good. I will. I can also chose to ignore you.

...and that was all in four minutes.

The creator of the video also mumbles a lot which makes it difficult to understand. So tell me: Is there any reason that I should sit through an hour of this dreck?

Maybe you have an argument to say that it’s a sin by your version of the Christian definition of a sin. But to say that homosexuality is harmful or evil? That’s just nonsense


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The Bible also suggests that it's ok for me to screw my mom and my sister. Do you think that makes it right?


And the most virtuous man in an entire nation cheerfully offered up his daughters for a mob to rape so that he could escape out the back door (they declined)

If there was any justice he'd have been the first against the wall.


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The Bible does not suggest that you have relations with your relatives. They did it when there was only two people in creation (what else were they supposed to do? God allowed it because it was part of His plan) God is very clear when it comes to sexual immorality.


So did Cain and Abel procreate with each other or with their mother?


digs wrote:

but technically it wasn't incest. The only people on earth were their relatives. You didn't have a choice. It isn't like they are choosing to sleep with a relative over someone that they aren't related too.


Technically it is. It's still sex with a relative no matter how many people they had to chose from.


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Lev 18:6 " 'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord. 7 “ ‘Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.


That always seemed so hammy to me. We know you're the Lord it's not like we haven't been paying attention.


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le1chi wrote:

Gross, using the bible as your base.

What a turn off So you think it's a sin

What's new. Shaving is sin, don't shave tonight.


how is it gross using the word of god as your base to prove being gay is sin? that gays arent born that way. you dont have to believe in the one who created you or the one who died for you on the cross, but that doesnt give you the right to say the bible is wrong. just simply be mature about other people's beliefs and say you dont believe in the bible.this thread is for mature answers and posts only. if you cant be mature about it then dont post.


Well it's pretty conceited. "God works for me bitches!" is what it sounds like.


digs wrote:

Shaving isn't a sin either, it was part of the Nazarite vows, but that only applied to people who took that vow. People judge the Bible when they are hardly educated in it, and even when they are, the pick and choose what they want to take from it. That is immaturity and foolishness.


People live by the bible when they are hardly educated in it. They pick and chose what they want to take from it. This is hypocrisy and foolishness.


le1chi wrote:

It's not too long ago you've been throwing out gay insults around like a spaz


When did he stop?


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digs wrote:

It was God's plan to create Adam and Eve and have their descendants populate the world.


Why would he plan for them to do something that he would later condemn as a sin? Sounds like he likes to abuse his power.


God is a sociopath, He'd almost have to be being unlimitedly powerful with no one to keep Him in check.


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“Homosexuality is based on what a person believes in their heart and based on their thoughts, and they act out their thoughts”. The reason I found this so interesting is that it seems to me that this could also be said of religion, to some extent. Religion is based on what people think and believe, and they act it out by joining some sort of religion. He also said that people can change their sexual orientations. I have never met an “ex-gay”, so I will reserve judgment until I do, but that is at the very least unnatural, if not wrong. Even if it were possible, there is no good reason for it.


...marry me?


madlibbs wrote:

There was another quote that I noticed: “Evidence has proven that homosexual men are 10 to 20 times more likely than heterosexual men to sexually molest a child”.


Well that's just factually incorrect.


madlibbs wrote:

6. He compared acceptance of homosexuals to acceptance of Hitler’s Big Lie about the Jews. This comparison is not only entirely inaccurate, it’s also extremely offensive. He said that a Big Lie is characterized by:


Ah well that settles it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage

I needn't have gotten so bent out of shape. ^^;


popillinois wrote:

gays arent born gays thats how just they really cope on whats surrounding them!!!...some maybe got gay because they dont want to be a male they feel more like a female...some maybe because they have lots of sisters and being the only boy around your being influenced to act like them too because all you see are all girls...!!



That's something else entirely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender


popillinois wrote:

its how they react nobody is born bi or a homo....thats just really harsh!!because what if they dont want that???


The world is harsh. No one wants to be different. Most people try to accept that they are different. Trying to be something you aren't is harder than being something you are.


Katorulez93 wrote:

well obviously christians do bad things but not like start religious wars.


Why must you turn this forum into a house of lies?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

Ah, yet another reply so long and so rant like that noone will bother to read it.
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i'm so glad that you posted being gay is a sinful activity...^_^
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^ I'm so glad that you're dogmatic about the subject.
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hannah675 wrote:

i'm so glad that you posted being gay is a sinful activity...^_^


i am gay...does that mean i am sinful?


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^ I'm so glad that you're dogmatic about the subject.


lol!
Posted 10/16/08

Kaminari12 wrote:

^ I'm so glad that you're dogmatic about the subject.



lol!


Thanks! I always have fun mocking people like that.
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^best pastime here on cr
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Katorulez93 wrote:

Ill provide some links that proves that gays arent born gay, that it is a major sin, and that its wrong.This is not a thread to make fun of gays but simply discuss the vidoes and your opinions about it. Since there are threads about gays being born that way or some other thing i thought it'd be nice to have a thread that covers all things about homosexuals. this is not a duplicate since ive searched. i only found threads that cover different thigns about them. so if this gets locked i dont have any idea why. rememerb this is not a thread to insult anyone. there are 7 parts. these videos covers everything about homosexuals. it has biblical proof that its a sin and has proof in other ways that it is. it covers everything. has clips and has chapters etc. these are great videos that have absolute proof

1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l8DfGXBEBs&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=0

2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNodcoIRIrM&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=1

3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNJjt56aCXc&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=2

4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1pssSLTc8&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=3

5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSHfz1tRZA&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=4

6- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIQ4ga9QNyA&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=5

7- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZh9XzOLu-8&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=6


I didn't bother watching those but your mean
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ShroomInferno wrote:


hannah675 wrote:

i'm so glad that you posted being gay is a sinful activity...^_^


i am gay...does that mean i am sinful?



Stipendium peccati mors est.
Ha!
The reward of sin is death: that's hard.



If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and there
is no truth in us. Why, then, belike we must sin, and so
consequently die:
Ay, we must die an everlasting death.
What doctrine call you this, Che sera, sera,
What will be, shall be? Divinity, adieu!


I can't decide if he missed the point or was being very insightful. Probably both. Like they say no one is perfect.
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For a long time, when I see "gays" threads I think I need to post Lot's people story, whom had been punished because of their homosexuality.
since some of you mentioned it, then I will say what in the Quran:

[11:77]And when Our messengers(angels) came unto Lot, he was distressed and knew not how to protect them. He said: This is a distressful day.
[11:78]And his people came rushing towards him, and since aforetime they used to commit crimes (sodomy, etc.), he said: "O my people! Here are my daughters, they are purer for you (if you marry them lawfully). So fear God and degrade me not as regards my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"
[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"
[11:80]He said: "Would that I had power to suppress you or that I could betake myself to some powerful support."
[11:81]They (angels) said: "O Lot! Verily, we are the Messengers from your Lord! They shall not reach you! So travel with your family in a part of the night, and let not any of you look back, but your wife (will remain behind), verily, the punishment which will afflict them, will afflict her. Indeed, morning is their appointed time. Is not the morning near?"
[11:82]When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer,-
[11:83]Marked as from thy Lord: Nor are they ever far from those who do wrong!
Posted 10/16/08

Katorulez93 wrote:

Ill provide some links that proves that gays arent born gay, that it is a major sin, and that its wrong.This is not a thread to make fun of gays but simply discuss the vidoes and your opinions about it. Since there are threads about gays being born that way or some other thing i thought it'd be nice to have a thread that covers all things about homosexuals. this is not a duplicate since ive searched. i only found threads that cover different thigns about them. so if this gets locked i dont have any idea why. rememerb this is not a thread to insult anyone. there are 7 parts. these videos covers everything about homosexuals. it has biblical proof that its a sin and has proof in other ways that it is. it covers everything. has clips and has chapters etc. these are great videos that have absolute proof

1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l8DfGXBEBs&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=0

2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNodcoIRIrM&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=1

3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNJjt56aCXc&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=2

4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1pssSLTc8&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=3

5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSHfz1tRZA&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=4

6- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIQ4ga9QNyA&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=5

7- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZh9XzOLu-8&feature=PlayList&p=ECF64DC4DB92F1BF&index=6


Take your morals and shove them up your narrow squared ass Christfag
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seriously i dont think people are born gay or lesbian. f god created a female and male, couldnt he create someone in between?
why do they have to find out for thier selves? i mean c'mon!!
ususally people who need attentiona they become homesexual to attract the attention or sympathy. if they couldnt have it from the other sex, well theyll get it from thier own and then, voila! a work of art or shall i say of magic??

what i'm saying has nothing to hurt other peoples feeling so dont take it for granted

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Take your morals and shove them up your narrow squared ass Christfag


Well, that's a very colorful opinion, but how about you spend a little less time talking about his ass and a little more time staying on topic? If you have a real argument against what he said, then let's hear it.
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