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Proof about gays
Posted 10/16/08

madlibbs wrote:


Laharalsan_666 wrote:

Take your morals and shove them up your narrow squared ass Christfag


Well, that's a very colorful opinion, but how about you spend a little less time talking about his ass and a little more time staying on topic? If you have a real argument against what he said, then let's hear it.


It is moral fags like you that let this country run to hell to begin with go fuck Jesus why don't cha
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buttholes were made so things come out, not to put things in there
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let me just say this, depending on what bible you read, depends on how you are taught, the king james edition was made for king james and he had it written the way he wanted it to be, plus if you take a verse in the bible, and i dont mean these new ones that are tranlated into modern terms, and you ask several pasters how they would translate into words what they read, you would get several differant answers, plus the bible was written by man, and what does man do???? he streches the truth, plus it was written quit a few years after everything that they say happened, and what if the real meaning of the saying that jesus was not from this earth really ment he was an alien, so thats why he was put on the cross, boy would that just kill religion, and goodnedd knows they dont even mention about dinosaurs in the bible, so to some religions, they never really were here on earth, now im not going to say the bible is competely false since i wasn't around then but you have to wonder why people follow it soo much,
but if zacharia sitchin is correct then the bible should be read more literaly,

but acccording to him we are a biogenetically mixture of apes and aliens, that were originally bred to be midless slaves, untill be began to think for ourselves

but if thats true then the biengs that made us will be back to check on our progress some where around 2014 give or take a few years, but the myan calender ends soon also an the world as we know it will end, but that can be interpedid alot of ways,

so in all i dont care what you believe in, just dont try to shove it down my neck, and dont look down on me just because i might not believe the same as you, goodness know more people have died because of religion than all the wars together,, do the crusades ring a bell to anyone???

oh but there i go agin ranting on like i nothing better to do, so ill stop now
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Posted 10/17/08
People get angry at homosexuals for being proud of it, not for being one.
Posted 10/17/08
i don't believe it's a choice, whether the cause of being gay is from nature/nuture, just like being straight isn't a choice. sexuality isn't something you can change.. i can't just force myself to like girls one day. that's my opinion on the issue =)
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Posted 10/17/08

krnsoldierofGod wrote:

buttholes were made so things come out, not to put things in there


Yes, that's why we should ban rectal thermometers and suppositories and other medical tools that are inserted into anuses to diagnose and treat various painful/deadly rectal diseases.


Kanone wrote:

People get angry at homosexuals for being proud of it, not for being one.


Of course, that's why they should all hate themselves so other people won't have to do it for them. If we get lucky, they'll all drive themselves into suicidal depression and kill themselves, then we won't have to deal with them anymore. Or even better, maybe the trend will spread to black/Asian/Hispanic/non-white people and they'll all stop being proud of themselves and kill themselves, then maybe the Earth will be free of poverty, disease, and war without all those non-white barbaric savages screwing up everything.
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Posted 10/17/08

Real_ZERO wrote:

For a long time, when I see "gays" threads I think I need to post Lot's people story, whom had been punished because of their homosexuality.
since some of you mentioned it, then I will say what in the Quran:

[11:77]And when Our messengers(angels) came unto Lot, he was distressed and knew not how to protect them. He said: This is a distressful day.
[11:78]And his people came rushing towards him, and since aforetime they used to commit crimes (sodomy, etc.), he said: "O my people! Here are my daughters, they are purer for you (if you marry them lawfully). So fear God and degrade me not as regards my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"


Huh... in the Christian version Lot's wife went as well but then she looked back, god threw a snit, and murdered her as well.

The most common sin of Sodom, Gomorrah and the other cities was avarice (I heard a wonderfully ridiculous story about a man who struck a beggar with a stone and proceeded to charge him for bloodletting!) and inhospitality. The Jews in particular were very big on appeasing your neighbours and treating your guests well... I guess you would be too if you were a religious minority surrounded by potential enemies. If you think about it from that perspective a number of different interpretations come to mind.

Quotes cribbed form the Authorised (King James) Version of the Bible Snarky comments in brackets.

The people who came to Lot wanted to meet his visitors ("Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them": KJV 19 5, To know is often assumed to be synonymous with sex, in the old testament it is apparently used 943 times and only referees to sex in a half dozen instances.)

Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes (beat? rape? Anything goes!): only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof (just don't hurt my guests, that'd be rude).

nice guy that Lot.


Real_ZERO wrote:

[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"


Perhaps they were already married? "Lot how dare you think we'd cheat on our wives (we're stupid not that stupid)! We're just greedy, all (lol) we want is to beat your guests and rob them (if they work for god they must be rich!)

Let's face it what people say about Sodom and Gomorrah is obviously nonsense. The idea of entire nations of homosexuals should be absurd to anyone -- unless you can build a nation in a single generation. <_<


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seriously i dont think people are born gay or lesbian. f god created a female and male, couldnt he create someone in between?
why do they have to find out for thier selves? i mean c'mon!!


He could have I'm sure but how would that have any bearing on Homosexuality?


Waragah wrote:

ususally people who need attentiona they become homesexual to attract the attention or sympathy. if they couldnt have it from the other sex, well theyll get it from thier own and then, voila! a work of art or shall i say of magic??

what i'm saying has nothing to hurt other peoples feeling so dont take it for granted



Gay people are more likely to attract violence and abuse, from "well meaning" bigots in particular.


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Kanone wrote:

People get angry at homosexuals for being proud of it, not for being one.


Of course, that's why they should all hate themselves so other people won't have to do it for them. If we get lucky, they'll all drive themselves into suicidal depression and kill themselves, then we won't have to deal with them anymore. Or even better, maybe the trend will spread to black/Asian/Hispanic/non-white people and they'll all stop being proud of themselves and kill themselves, then maybe the Earth will be free of poverty, disease, and war without all those non-white barbaric savages screwing up everything.


A modest proposal indeed.
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Posted 10/17/08
Gays would not be a problem if they were just ignored when you make a fuss about them being gay they do those gay pride marches so just shut up leave them alone and all will be made better! They become "PROUD" in response to our bashing them they aren't hurting anyone so SHUT UP!
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Posted 10/17/08

Laharalsan_666 wrote:


madlibbs wrote:


Laharalsan_666 wrote:

Take your morals and shove them up your narrow squared ass Christfag


Well, that's a very colorful opinion, but how about you spend a little less time talking about his ass and a little more time staying on topic? If you have a real argument against what he said, then let's hear it.


It is moral fags like you that let this country run to hell to begin with go fuck Jesus why don't cha


I have morals, as every human being should, but I am not a fag. I have no political influence whatsoever in this country, so I can assure you that this country's problems are not my fault. They may be someday, but not today. As for Jesus, I am still undecided as to whether or not I believe in him. And just for the record, I strongly disagree with these videos, as mentioned in my previous comments. I am not suggesting that you agree with these videos, I am merely suggesting that you phrase your criticism in a constructive manner.
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Posted 10/17/08 , edited 10/17/08

Tyrfing wrote:


Huh... in the Christian version Lot's wife went as well but then she looked back, god threw a snit, and murdered her as well.

Islamic version is the same about that. (let not any of you look back: but thy wife) means she looked back


Tyrfing wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

For a long time, when I see "gays" threads I think I need to post Lot's people story, whom had been punished because of their homosexuality.
since some of you mentioned it, then I will say what in the Quran:

[11:77]And when Our messengers(angels) came unto Lot, he was distressed and knew not how to protect them. He said: This is a distressful day.
[11:78]And his people came rushing towards him, and since aforetime they used to commit crimes (sodomy, etc.), he said: "O my people! Here are my daughters, they are purer for you (if you marry them lawfully). So fear God and degrade me not as regards my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"


Huh... in the Christian version Lot's wife went as well but then she looked back, god threw a snit, and murdered her as well.

The most common sin of Sodom, Gomorrah and the other cities was avarice (I heard a wonderfully ridiculous story about a man who struck a beggar with a stone and proceeded to charge him for bloodletting!) and inhospitality. The Jews in particular were very big on appeasing your neighbours and treating your guests well... I guess you would be too if you were a religious minority surrounded by potential enemies. If you think about it from that perspective a number of different interpretations come to mind.

Quotes cribbed form the Authorised (King James) Version of the Bible Snarky comments in brackets.

The people who came to Lot wanted to meet his visitors ("Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them": KJV 19 5, To know is often assumed to be synonymous with sex, in the old testament it is apparently used 943 times and only referees to sex in a half dozen instances.)

Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes (beat? rape? Anything goes!): only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof (just don't hurt my guests, that'd be rude).

nice guy that Lot.


Real_ZERO wrote:

[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"


Perhaps they were already married? "Lot how dare you think we'd cheat on our wives (we're stupid not that stupid)! We're just greedy, all (lol) we want is to beat your guests and rob them (if they work for god they must be rich!)

Let's face it what people say about Sodom and Gomorrah is obviously nonsense. The idea of entire nations of homosexuals should be absurd to anyone -- unless you can build a nation in a single generation. <_<


[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"
Regardless if they were married or not, this answer of the people of Lot shows that they had gone to the lowest depth of depravity and openly and brazen-facedly declared that they did not want females but males(The angels came to Lot in the form of young men with handsome faces).


I 'm not sure if you can actually called Lot's people a nation, Sodom was a city, population of that city was not as large as it in any medium city these days (since the population are growing), so that makes sense I think.

btw Lot's incestuous relationship with his daughters are denied in Islamic version .


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Posted 10/17/08 , edited 10/17/08

Real_ZERO wrote:

[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"

Regardless if they were married or not, this answer of the people of Lot shows that they had gone to the lowest depth of depravity and openly and brazen-facedly declared that they did not want females but males


1. They never said what they wanted them for.
2. Who ever said that angels are men? If your species does not reproduce sexually why would you have different sexes?


Real_ZERO wrote:

(The angels came to Lot in the form of young men with handsome faces).


Oh? Where did it say that?



Real_ZERO wrote:

I 'm not sure if you can actually called Lot's people a nation, Sodom was a city, population of that city was not as large as it in any medium city these days (since the population are growing), so that makes sense I think.


I was talking about the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and the three other cities that God nuked that day. I don't think they were all in Lot's extended family were they?

And I'm not saying that the sheer numbers are unbelievable (since there are 6,700,000,000 people in the world and studies suggest that 10% of the population is gay or bisexual) just that you can't have a city full of nothing but gay men since in a few dozen years it will become a city of no men.


Real_ZERO wrote:

btw Lot's incestuous relationship with his daughters are denied in Islamic version .


I don't think I brought it up but it's interesting to know. I wonder why that is.
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I'm gay, and i'm telling you I was born this way like it or not its the truth meow
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Wow, I can't believe youtube videos fell under the "absolute proof" category...
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Posted 10/17/08 , edited 10/17/08

Tyrfing wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"

Regardless if they were married or not, this answer of the people of Lot shows that they had gone to the lowest depth of depravity and openly and brazen-facedly declared that they did not want females but males


1. They never said what they wanted them for.

First of all, the sin of Lot's people was sodomy, that what stated in Quran:

[26:161]Behold, their brother Lot said to them: "Will ye not fear God? ......
[26:165]"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males,
[26:166]And leave what your Lord has created for you of your wives? Nay, you are a people exceeding limits.



[11:78]And his people came rushing towards him, and since aforetime they used to commit crimes (sodomy, etc.), he said: "O my people! Here are my daughters, they are purer for you (if you marry them lawfully). So fear God and degrade me not as regards my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"
[11:79]They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"


From underlying,[ they rushed, aforetime they used to commit sodomy,...until refusing the proposal],
Isn't obvious for what they wanted them?.


Tyrfing wrote:


2. Who ever said that angels are men? If your species does not reproduce sexually why would you have different sexes?


Real_ZERO wrote:

(The angels came to Lot in the form of young men with handsome faces).


Oh? Where did it say that?
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The angels are angels ( I didn't witness their creation ) but at that time they came as men.
If we start with the begining of context we will notice that angels came in form of people( and as men):

[11:69]There came Our messengers to Abraham with glad tidings. They said, "Peace!" He answered, "Peace!" and hastened to entertain them with a roasted calf.
[11:70]But when he saw their hands went not towards the (meal), he felt some mistrust of them, and conceived a fear of them. They said: "Fear not: We have been sent against the people of Lot."



the story from another chapter
[51:25]When they entered upon him, they said: Peace. Peace, said he, a strange people.
[51:26]Then he turned quickly to his household, brought out a fatted calf,
[51:27]And placed it before them.. he said, "Will ye not eat?"

....
also here from chapter Stoneland
[15:61]And when the messengers came unto the family of Lot,
[15:62]He said: "Ye appear to be uncommon folk."

....

See, neither Abraham (peace be upon him) nor Lot (peace be upon him) recognized them as angels at first place ...but as [ uncommon folk/ strange people/entertain them with food like any ordinary guests].
SO when angels came in the form of people, they would be handsome( If they wouldn't actually a gay see any guy is handsome 101)
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FlavorAmazing wrote:

Wow, I can't believe youtube videos fell under the "absolute proof" category...


i know, it's unbelievable to a degree that some people even considered the threat starter to actually have a 'POINT' though the bible MAY have scientific facts about it (etc) but it's still considered a 'myth' or something 'made up' for many many people. The youtube videos of that guy talking proves NOTHING, nothing that the bible haven't said. and more so; news paper articles are much much more reliable than those videos =_=; it's simple really; just google for different types of information on it; while doing so; just make sure the sites are reliable =_=; NOT youtube. =___=;
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