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Posted 6/25/08
There is so many loopholes, that i wana know badly
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Well,you asked that what happened to the future Gokudera and future Yamamoto right?Watch the start of future arc,their past selves were hit by Lambo's ten-year bazooka and they changed places with their future selves.Like Tsuna,they cannot return to the past until they find the future self of Irie Shouichi as he holds the key on getting back to the past.

If their past selves(that is present in the future)is able to defeat the Millefiore Family and eliminate Byakuran,their future will be altered when they return to the past as they can prevent to this matter from happening again IMO.
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Too Hard to explain :S
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Hmmm.... Actually, what I don't understand is that, since there were the older versions of some of the characters, why didn't they return after 5 minutes? Since Tsuna and Reborn are stuck because there are no future selves of them.

And since the older version of the other characters went to the past, why couldn't they have killed Irie Shouichi? Since they are stronger and also understand the situation much better...
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LAMB000 wrote:

Hmmm.... Actually, what I don't understand is that, since there were the older versions of some of the characters, why didn't they return after 5 minutes? Since Tsuna and Reborn are stuck because there are no future selves of them.

And since the older version of the other characters went to the past, why couldn't they have killed Irie Shouichi? Since they are stronger and also understand the situation much better...


y would they killed lrie shouichi??? if they killed lrie shouichi.. wad will happen to the future?? THEY CANT GET BACK TO THE PAST BECAUSE LRIE SHOUICHI IS DEAD IN THE PAST FUTURE CANNOT BE ALIVE IF PAST IS DEAD RITE?
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LAMB000 wrote:

Hmmm.... Actually, what I don't understand is that, since there were the older versions of some of the characters, why didn't they return after 5 minutes? Since Tsuna and Reborn are stuck because there are no future selves of them.

And since the older version of the other characters went to the past, why couldn't they have killed Irie Shouichi? Since they are stronger and also understand the situation much better...


y would they killed lrie shouichi??? if they killed lrie shouichi.. wad will happen to the future?? THEY CANT GET BACK TO THE PAST BECAUSE LRIE SHOUICHI IS DEAD IN THE PAST FUTURE CANNOT BE ALIVE IF PAST IS DEAD RITE?


Hmmm, One I have no idea what you're saying. It sounds like it's running around in circles, and two, calm down Mr. Caps, I can read just fine.

What makes no sense is that the characters who had replacements couldn't go back after 5 minutes because of the 10year Bazooka. And also If they did kill Irie Shouichi, the future would be destroyed, meaning the future characters would be different and the past characters would come back. Hmmm... I'd like to see what happens.
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Everyboby is stukked in the future because the "Ten-year-bazooka" was broken...
And why dont future Yamamoto and future Gokudera kill Ire when they are in the past????
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Everyboby is stukked in the future because the "Ten-year-bazooka" was broken...
And why dont future Yamamoto and future Gokudera kill Ire when they are in the past????


y would they killed lrie shouichi??? if they killed lrie shouichi.. wad will happen to the future?? later they still in the future hw?? n lre nt around nobdy holds the key to the past..they will be stuck forever
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Well,you asked that what happened to the future Gokudera and future Yamamoto right?Watch the start of future arc,their past selves were hit by Lambo's ten-year bazooka and they changed places with their future selves.Like Tsuna,they cannot return to the past until they find the future self of Irie Shouichi as he holds the key on getting back to the past.

If their past selves(that is present in the future)is able to defeat the Millefiore Family and eliminate Byakuran,their future will be altered when they return to the past as they can prevent to this matter from happening again IMO.
its confusing a bit but i agree

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eto... i wonder... if they SWAP place with their future self, that means Tsuna swapped place with his corpse? if that is not allowed through ten-year-bazooka, how did he came to the future?

AND the past MIGHT be looking at the Tsuna's corpse rite now... instead of searching for him everywhere (their friends are finding for him rite? before they got swapped to the future?)

PLUS! how did everyone got to the future? did all of them squished into that bazzoka?

OR maybe everything has got to do with that Irie's whatever machine??? <.<
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wait if they just did that then wats the whole point in making the future arc i mean irie might be using that device to stop them goin to the past and they need the vongola rings in the future cause tsuna destryo them in the future.

future gokudera and yamamoto and etc cant be seen in the past cause that might be dangerous as they r now missing in the past and think wat will happen if a ten year older version just pop up and future gokudera and yamamoto have to protect the others especially ryouhei and hibari as they hold the last remaining vongola rings that the millefoire needs
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Well, here's my two cents worth.

It's not that Reborn and Tsuna cannot go back to the past because of them being dead in the future. Because, as Gokudera and Yamamoto are alive in the future, why wouldn't they be able to go back? And what's more, it's not 10 years, but 9 years and 10 months. I think that they are unable to return because of the rays (I forgot what they're called) that kill the Arcobaleno being emitted. Maybe it doesn't just hurt the Arcobaleno, but stops time travel there entirely.

And as for TYL Gokudera and Yamamoto, I think they're in the future, like it's supposed to be. They're not changing back because of those rays that disrupt the normal usage of the Ten-Year Bazooka. And the reason they don't kill Irie Shouichi is that they would not only be affecting the future, but also be affecting the past, which is a no-no?

And the reason the rest of them pop into the future is probably caused by the TYL guardians. As what they said, they were 'hit by behind' with the Ten-Year Bazooka. The TYL guardians probably sent them to the future forcibly because they hold the Vongola Rings which are needed to defeat Millifiore. As for Ipin, Kyoko and Haru, perhaps it's because they are important and all part of Tsuna's family. Ryohei and Hibari aren't changed, maybe because Ryohei isn't really understanding anything? I have no reasoning for Ryohei's absence. And Hibari, I just can't see anyone being able to hit him without him knowing first and beating the crap out of all of them. I mean, he blocked a bullet in the manga.

And Tsuna's corpse being in the past, I don't know. The guardians would probably take care of it? But I don't thing the corpse was transferring. I imagine Lambo (who was right beside Tsuna when he was hit by the Bazooka) would freak, and rant about it in the future at least. Before long Kyoko and Haru (in the past) would know also anyway.

Makes sense? Or not? Well, just my thinking anyway. I'm sorry if it's not a good explanation... And remember that this is all just my thoughts and probably won't be true anyway.
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"they said, they were 'hit by behind' with the Ten-Year Bazooka" well at first i thought it was lambo, but that does not make any sens because they weren't at the same place at that time, and lambo's abilities ... well a five-year-old boy isn't that fast.
Now comes the twisted reasoning: tsuna and reborn were able to go to the future... but if they weren't there at that time who did they exchanged places with? We know that for sure reborn did no longer have a remaining corpse in the future: he died a long time before. --> will he be unable to go back? But when tsuna arrived he was in a coffin : meaning there was something like a body there --> was tsuna really dead in the future? why would gokudera bury him in such a faraway place? so, What if future-supposedly-dead-tsuna had been maintained alive and were the one shooting them from behind?
I know it's twisted, but hibari, ryohei, and the grown-up-arcobaleno-whom-i-don't-remenber-the-name weren't acting as if their leader had just died! and future-gokudera and future-yamamoto's reactions could be explained : something like 1-they couldn't protect him and he got extremely badly wounded, 2-they had to prepare a safe landing for the young tsuna and lured they ennemies by transporting him in a coffin to make it look like he was dead!
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Actually i'm very angry at myself, because i seriously don't want to think the future they are in is the real one. Because it cannot be that after coming back to their time they would let such ennemies live and kill the people around them ; how could they possibly let that happen! So most likely they are about to create some kind of time paradoxe: they beat the ennemies in the future, but coming back to their time they realises their older versions killed Shoichi Irie and stuff (the future can't be the same anymore ~ i don't want to think this is the exact reason why the future will go wrong). Conclusion the future arc was set in a parallel world.
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