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Ok I was more than a little pissed off when I watched ep 12 last night. I think everyone here knows at the end Shizuka would be killed. Ok when Kaname does it (and I don't know if this is just an error in translation) he says, "I'm doing this for myself" I KNEW that wasn't right. I went and got my manga and he actually says, "I would do anything for the sake of the one I love." Oh Kaname haters are going to have a field day with that one!!! They will say, look how selfish he is. Does anyone know if the translaters for the fansubs got it wrong or if the anime is just trying to make Kaname look bad???? Grrrrrrrr
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really?.. i haven't watch ep 12 yet....
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He does? O_O thank you for the heads up.. yea..... unfortantley to people think fansubbers are gods to and think the official ones are rubbish. :/

But then again.. maybe the anime is trying to make him look bad to? D: ugh... best thing to do is take the note of the words he says in Japanese really.... which i no idea what would the line.... uhm.. i will ask Storm Peace as he knows Japanese.... although if Kaname mentioned ''koibito'' then its defently translators fault... thats the best i can do.. sorry :(

I WILL ask storm though.. will PM him right this instant.

*edit* sent him the note just now, all we have to do is sit back and wait.

*edit* ok... im going to keep a look out for storm peace for when i do watch it but.. i been thinking and i think they meant for that to happen..... cause its a whole different sentance.... plus in the anime it was hinting before that kaname was selfish...

Ugh.. i knew there was a reason as to why i disliked anime kaname >.<;;;; and thats proberly why Akatsuki said ''he dosent know that yet'' after Kaname dismissed Ruka... cause he proberly mess around with both Yuuki and Ruka.... or mess with Yuuki etc.... i thought the ending was a bit different to.. cause there was a vial.. and Yuuki ran way.. and Kaname had something bad come out of him....

Maybe thats why they put fillers in to... because them fillers wasent on Kanames side... like when he rescued Yuuki i sensed he was a bit ''selfish'' im no Zero fan but that bit was just... well.. horrible.... i bet Kaname knew he was under there... manga Kaname wouldent do that to Zero.. even though he aint a fan of his....

And in ep 1 to... Kaname acted like he did not know her.... when she was speaking to Takuma.. Takuma was being his friendly self and talking to Yuukiand Kaname was looking at her like as if she was a alien... and dident speak at all..... (plus anime kaname seems snobbish to.... manga one dosent.. i dont feel he was anyway Oo i know he speaks poshly... but wasent snobby... like Seimei.. he speaks and acts poshly.... but isent snobby...)

Well... if you do see Kaname bashers being pleased about it just say to them ''In the manga Kaname wasent like that'' that'd knock their hats off.... XD and if they respond telling you that they do (and rudely at that) tell them then you should know that their is a difference betwen manga and anime Kaname.
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He does? O_O thank you for the heads up.. yea..... unfortantley to people think fansubbers are gods to and think the official ones are rubbish. :/

But then again.. maybe the anime is trying to make him look bad to? D: ugh... best thing to do is take the note of the words he says in Japanese really.... which i no idea what would the line.... uhm.. i will ask Storm Peace as he knows Japanese.... although if Kaname mentioned ''koibito'' then its defently translators fault... thats the best i can do.. sorry :(

I WILL ask storm though.. will PM him right this instant.

*edit* sent him the note just now, all we have to do is sit back and wait.

*edit* ok... im going to keep a look out for storm peace for when i do watch it but.. i been thinking and i think they meant for that to happen..... cause its a whole different sentance.... plus in the anime it was hinting before that kaname was selfish...

Ugh.. i knew there was a reason as to why i disliked anime kaname >.<;;;; and thats proberly why Akatsuki said ''he dosent know that yet'' after Kaname dismissed Ruka... cause he proberly mess around with both Yuuki and Ruka.... or mess with Yuuki etc.... i thought the ending was a bit different to.. cause there was a vial.. and Yuuki ran way.. and Kaname had something bad come out of him....

Maybe thats why they put fillers in to... because them fillers wasent on Kanames side... like when he rescued Yuuki i sensed he was a bit ''selfish'' im no Zero fan but that bit was just... well.. horrible.... i bet Kaname knew he was under there... manga Kaname wouldent do that to Zero.. even though he aint a fan of his....

And in ep 1 to... Kaname acted like he did not know her.... when she was speaking to Takuma.. Takuma was being his friendly self and talking to Yuukiand Kaname was looking at her like as if she was a alien... and dident speak at all..... (plus anime kaname seems snobbish to.... manga one dosent.. i dont feel he was anyway Oo i know he speaks poshly... but wasent snobby... like Seimei.. he speaks and acts poshly.... but isent snobby...)

Well... if you do see Kaname bashers being pleased about it just say to them ''In the manga Kaname wasent like that'' that'd knock their hats off.... XD and if they respond telling you that they do (and rudely at that) tell them then you should know that their is a difference betwen manga and anime Kaname.


You are welcome, and thanks for getting Storm Peace's opinion, I appreciate it. I know some Japanese but need to listen to it more carefully. I kind of just went off on a rant last night. I'm anxious to see what Storm Peace says. I think it's terrible they are changing Kaname's character in the anime, it's like it isn't even the same story anymore.

I don't really dislike anime Kaname. I just could sense the difference. It sux they are changing the manga (and original intent of the story) that much. I wonder if they'll even include the scene where he bites Yuuki. Oh and for the ep where he rescues Yuuki I got the feeling he told her Zero went home to protect Zero. Zero was obviously having a hunger fit and when Kaname said "Your blood is too dangerous" I thought it was for Zero's benefit to let him know he shouldn't be around Yuuki at that moment.

Hmmm I'm not sure what you're talking about exactly in ep 1...I can't seem to remember where she was talking to Takuma and Kaname was acting like that....refresh my memory? And yea I will definitely raise the comparison...geez if I were Hino I wouldn't let them do that!!! It sux!

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ToukaxMomoka wrote:

He does? O_O thank you for the heads up.. yea..... unfortantley to people think fansubbers are gods to and think the official ones are rubbish. :/

But then again.. maybe the anime is trying to make him look bad to? D: ugh... best thing to do is take the note of the words he says in Japanese really.... which i no idea what would the line.... uhm.. i will ask Storm Peace as he knows Japanese.... although if Kaname mentioned ''koibito'' then its defently translators fault... thats the best i can do.. sorry :(

I WILL ask storm though.. will PM him right this instant.

*edit* sent him the note just now, all we have to do is sit back and wait.

*edit* ok... im going to keep a look out for storm peace for when i do watch it but.. i been thinking and i think they meant for that to happen..... cause its a whole different sentance.... plus in the anime it was hinting before that kaname was selfish...

Ugh.. i knew there was a reason as to why i disliked anime kaname >.<;;;; and thats proberly why Akatsuki said ''he dosent know that yet'' after Kaname dismissed Ruka... cause he proberly mess around with both Yuuki and Ruka.... or mess with Yuuki etc.... i thought the ending was a bit different to.. cause there was a vial.. and Yuuki ran way.. and Kaname had something bad come out of him....

Maybe thats why they put fillers in to... because them fillers wasent on Kanames side... like when he rescued Yuuki i sensed he was a bit ''selfish'' im no Zero fan but that bit was just... well.. horrible.... i bet Kaname knew he was under there... manga Kaname wouldent do that to Zero.. even though he aint a fan of his....

And in ep 1 to... Kaname acted like he did not know her.... when she was speaking to Takuma.. Takuma was being his friendly self and talking to Yuukiand Kaname was looking at her like as if she was a alien... and dident speak at all..... (plus anime kaname seems snobbish to.... manga one dosent.. i dont feel he was anyway Oo i know he speaks poshly... but wasent snobby... like Seimei.. he speaks and acts poshly.... but isent snobby...)

Well... if you do see Kaname bashers being pleased about it just say to them ''In the manga Kaname wasent like that'' that'd knock their hats off.... XD and if they respond telling you that they do (and rudely at that) tell them then you should know that their is a difference betwen manga and anime Kaname.


You are welcome, and thanks for getting Storm Peace's opinion, I appreciate it. I know some Japanese but need to listen to it more carefully. I kind of just went off on a rant last night. I'm anxious to see what Storm Peace says. I think it's terrible they are changing Kaname's character in the anime, it's like it isn't even the same story anymore.

I don't really dislike anime Kaname. I just could sense the difference. It sux they are changing the manga (and original intent of the story) that much. I wonder if they'll even include the scene where he bites Yuuki. Oh and for the ep where he rescues Yuuki I got the feeling he told her Zero went home to protect Zero. Zero was obviously having a hunger fit and when Kaname said "Your blood is too dangerous" I thought it was for Zero's benefit to let him know he shouldn't be around Yuuki at that moment.

Hmmm I'm not sure what you're talking about exactly in ep 1...I can't seem to remember where she was talking to Takuma and Kaname was acting like that....refresh my memory? And yea I will definitely raise the comparison...geez if I were Hino I wouldn't let them do that!!! It sux!



It is a shame but not really.

The manga wouldent be as beautiful as it is if anime where the same as manga... and i for one wouldent even bother getting the rest of the manga if they did it exactly the same.

I had trouble with Fruits Basket as it is.. but i get that manga because it continues on after the anime.

But to change Kaname..... it is horrible really.... and Takuma... (although Takuma isent turned evil thank lord..... even if he has changed at least he is still cheery, humane and friendly.)
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Yeah, I kinda noticed that! In the manga he says "I will use all of my power to protect Yuuki" but he didn't said it on the anime. Too bad, I say....
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Yea I hate it that they changed that....also, I went back online to read Ch 20 and Shizuka tells Kaname if he doesn't kill her she will take Yuuki's life....convenient how the anime leaves that out as well. He really had no choice. I never really got into manga before now. I was always just an anime nut....lol, but why do they do that? Make the story so different sometimes?

I noticed that Elfen Lied looks longer too in the manga. I watched that a bit ago but it was only 13 eps.

But I did like how Zero noted that even when Yuuki is looking at him she sees only Kaname,ever....hehehehe
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Yea I hate it that they changed that....also, I went back online to read Ch 20 and Shizuka tells Kaname if he doesn't kill her she will take Yuuki's life....convenient how the anime leaves that out as well. He really had no choice. I never really got into manga before now. I was always just an anime nut....lol, but why do they do that? Make the story so different sometimes?

I noticed that Elfen Lied looks longer too in the manga. I watched that a bit ago but it was only 13 eps.

But I did like how Zero noted that even when Yuuki is looking at him she sees only Kaname,ever....hehehehe


Shizuka actually said that to Kaname? O-O woa.. poor guy.. she dident say that in the manga (official translation) however he did kill her for that purpose and even said it (the words was ''i think we are both here for one purpose... *kills her* i to would do anything to protect the one i love.'')

Ugh.. i still cant belive they made Kaname bad in the anime x--x such a shame to cause my icon and desktop wallpaper is of him D: funnily enough it dosent effect me but.....

To think manga Kaname could of turned out to be like manga Kaname to ;_; i will still check tonight though to see if the translation is correct or not.


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Ok I was more than a little pissed off when I watched ep 12 last night. I think everyone here knows at the end Shizuka would be killed. Ok when Kaname does it (and I don't know if this is just an error in translation) he says, "I'm doing this for myself" I KNEW that wasn't right. I went and got my manga and he actually says, "I would do anything for the sake of the one I love." Oh Kaname haters are going to have a field day with that one!!! They will say, look how selfish he is. Does anyone know if the translaters for the fansubs got it wrong or if the anime is just trying to make Kaname look bad???? Grrrrrrrr


Ok... i checked out out now and gotta say.. you dont have to worry really i think.... cause the aura of it wasent bad.... i felt like he said that because it was part of his plans.

Also possibly bad translation to (i noticed in the ep earlier on when that girl fell down she said no in the subs... but she said ''hai'' and hai means yes.)

Wasent able to write what he said down.. so i will wait till Storm Peace watchs the ep for confirmination.

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KANAME WOULD NEVER BE SELFISH!!! HE CARES FOR YUKI TOO MUCH FOR THAT TO HAPPEN!!!!!
anyways do u people get the feeling that the anime revolves around alot of yuki and zero alot?
in otha words i like the manga better! has much more of kaname and yuki together!
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KANAME WOULD NEVER BE SELFISH!!! HE CARES FOR YUKI TOO MUCH FOR THAT TO HAPPEN!!!!!
anyways do u people get the feeling that the anime revolves around alot of yuki and zero alot?
in otha words i like the manga better! has much more of kaname and yuki together!


No.
If anything the anime is more so cause one of the fillers had Kaname protecting Yuuki whilst the horse riding bit was cut out (not a Yuuki and Zero interaction really but its still in their area.)

It starts out with to much hardcore Zero (holy geez look at volume 4 >>;;; ) but then much later on (like as in just a few months back) it did a twist and turned it around on Kaname and Yuuki.

Unless of course your reffering that the anime wont make it to the point thats happening right now?

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damn it no matter how bad they are going to make him look bad i'll never give up my love for him!
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I don't care if they make him look bad, but I will hold on to my one perspective.
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i know!!! i practically died!!! i was this close to stabbing someone, like i know sometimes the changed anime is better than the original manga, but totally not for this scene!!! plus, they do that for a lot of other characters too!!!! but, still, i'm happy the subbers are nice enough to do this for us, despite everything: THX SO MUCH!!! if it's the anime though, that's a completely different picture, i might actually stab the person who decided to do that, don't make anyone look bad, who isn't, & even if they are, if the manga was a success, stick to it as much as possible, don't try to experiment too much!!!
anyways, that really did not make my day....
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Posted 11/9/08
hmm i just ignore that coz kaname is not selfish ^^
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already over it I was pissed but I don't mind it too much as long as they will stick together
in the manga so it's fine by me , I don't mind if they will make him look a bit of evil for the sake of love .
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