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Ok I was more than a little pissed off when I watched ep 12 last night. I think everyone here knows at the end Shizuka would be killed. Ok when Kaname does it (and I don't know if this is just an error in translation) he says, "I'm doing this for myself" I KNEW that wasn't right. I went and got my manga and he actually says, "I would do anything for the sake of the one I love." Oh Kaname haters are going to have a field day with that one!!! They will say, look how selfish he is. Does anyone know if the translaters for the fansubs got it wrong or if the anime is just trying to make Kaname look bad???? Grrrrrrrr
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Ok I was more than a little pissed off when I watched ep 12 last night. I think everyone here knows at the end Shizuka would be killed. Ok when Kaname does it (and I don't know if this is just an error in translation) he says, "I'm doing this for myself" I KNEW that wasn't right. I went and got my manga and he actually says, "I would do anything for the sake of the one I love." Oh Kaname haters are going to have a field day with that one!!! They will say, look how selfish he is. Does anyone know if the translaters for the fansubs got it wrong or if the anime is just trying to make Kaname look bad???? Grrrrrrrr


im just like you. i rushed into the manga and compared everything.
the scanlation at onemanga.com also shows kaname saying "i do it for myself" as he killed shizuka.
there are really a lot of confusions caused by the different manga translations, plus the fact that the anime changed many scenes and added some that weren't in the manga at all.
and to think that VK's plot is so complicated already!
no wonder so many are totally lost.
i have yet to see the kaname haters quoting that line yet, though.
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Ok I was more than a little pissed off when I watched ep 12 last night. I think everyone here knows at the end Shizuka would be killed. Ok when Kaname does it (and I don't know if this is just an error in translation) he says, "I'm doing this for myself" I KNEW that wasn't right. I went and got my manga and he actually says, "I would do anything for the sake of the one I love." Oh Kaname haters are going to have a field day with that one!!! They will say, look how selfish he is. Does anyone know if the translaters for the fansubs got it wrong or if the anime is just trying to make Kaname look bad???? Grrrrrrrr


im just like you. i rushed into the manga and compared everything.
the scanlation at onemanga.com also shows kaname saying "i do it for myself" as he killed shizuka.
there are really a lot of confusions caused by the different manga translations, plus the fact that the anime changed many scenes and added some that weren't in the manga at all.
and to think that VK's plot is so complicated already!
no wonder so many are totally lost.
i have yet to see the kaname haters quoting that line yet, though.


Yea I'm always doing that (typical lit major lol)

I went to the scan at onemanga and you're definitely right. I am kinda thinking though that maybe they got the trans wrong because what he says is right over a picture of Yuuki, which does NOT make sense. Why would he say, myself, when she is obviously there cause he's referring to her. I think I would trust Viz's translation, since that is the official one and they probably have to check with all kinds of people to make sure the translation is right, since it's being sold in stores.

And yes it is complicated for sure. The whole chess thing...i struggle with that, although I know the white knight has to be Zero (Kaname flicks that piece when Yuuki lets him feed from her the first time) and in the Op Zero shoots the Bloody Rose when Yuuki drinks the vial of blood after appearing in that chess piece. I think those are also clues making him the Vampire Knight.

Thank god for that! Kaname can be so misunderstood sometimes.
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Yea I'm always doing that (typical lit major lol)

I went to the scan at onemanga and you're definitely right. I am kinda thinking though that maybe they got the trans wrong because what he says is right over a picture of Yuuki, which does NOT make sense. Why would he say, myself, when she is obviously there cause he's referring to her. I think I would trust Viz's translation, since that is the official one and they probably have to check with all kinds of people to make sure the translation is right, since it's being sold in stores.

And yes it is complicated for sure. The whole chess thing...i struggle with that, although I know the white knight has to be Zero (Kaname flicks that piece when Yuuki lets him feed from her the first time) and in the Op Zero shoots the Bloody Rose when Yuuki drinks the vial of blood after appearing in that chess piece. I think those are also clues making him the Vampire Knight.

Thank god for that! Kaname can be so misunderstood sometimes.


yeah. he's pretty much hated in CR as it is. i hope everyone would take time read the manga, his true character is very well presented on it. he appears so much like the villain in the anime version...how unfair.

am still waiting for the translated VK paperbacks to arrive in local stores here. they're so rare and so easily sold out! hopefully they'll be available by the week's end (if the storekeeper keeps his word :D).
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luvkanamesama wrote:

Yea I'm always doing that (typical lit major lol)

I went to the scan at onemanga and you're definitely right. I am kinda thinking though that maybe they got the trans wrong because what he says is right over a picture of Yuuki, which does NOT make sense. Why would he say, myself, when she is obviously there cause he's referring to her. I think I would trust Viz's translation, since that is the official one and they probably have to check with all kinds of people to make sure the translation is right, since it's being sold in stores.

And yes it is complicated for sure. The whole chess thing...i struggle with that, although I know the white knight has to be Zero (Kaname flicks that piece when Yuuki lets him feed from her the first time) and in the Op Zero shoots the Bloody Rose when Yuuki drinks the vial of blood after appearing in that chess piece. I think those are also clues making him the Vampire Knight.

Thank god for that! Kaname can be so misunderstood sometimes.


yeah. he's pretty much hated in CR as it is. i hope everyone would take time read the manga, his true character is very well presented on it. he appears so much like the villain in the anime version...how unfair.

am still waiting for the translated VK paperbacks to arrive in local stores here. they're so rare and so easily sold out! hopefully they'll be available by the week's end (if the storekeeper keeps his word :D).


Yea I hate that and do agree his true nature comes out in the manga for sure. He is a loyal and devoted protector and loves Yuuki wholehearedly and unconditionally.

Oh wow what country/city are you in? Up here in Van you can get them so many places. If you want me to get some for you let me know!
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Yea I hate that and do agree his true nature comes out in the manga for sure. He is a loyal and devoted protector and loves Yuuki wholehearedly and unconditionally.

Oh wow what country/city are you in? Up here in Van you can get them so many places. If you want me to get some for you let me know!


well, im in manila. we're nearer to japan but it seems that the paperbacks are translated in the US before being shipped back here in asia. so i have to make do with the scanlations in the meantime.

thanks much for your offer. don't want to cause you too much trouble though.

i just read chap41! it's definitely a kanamexyuuki chapter. im happy and impatient for the next one to come out.:D
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luvkanamesama wrote:

Ok I was more than a little pissed off when I watched ep 12 last night. I think everyone here knows at the end Shizuka would be killed. Ok when Kaname does it (and I don't know if this is just an error in translation) he says, "I'm doing this for myself" I KNEW that wasn't right. I went and got my manga and he actually says, "I would do anything for the sake of the one I love." Oh Kaname haters are going to have a field day with that one!!! They will say, look how selfish he is. Does anyone know if the translaters for the fansubs got it wrong or if the anime is just trying to make Kaname look bad???? Grrrrrrrr


im just like you. i rushed into the manga and compared everything.
the scanlation at onemanga.com also shows kaname saying "i do it for myself" as he killed shizuka.
there are really a lot of confusions caused by the different manga translations, plus the fact that the anime changed many scenes and added some that weren't in the manga at all.
and to think that VK's plot is so complicated already!
no wonder so many are totally lost.
i have yet to see the kaname haters quoting that line yet, though.


OMG I KNOW!!
although i didn't rush and check myself with the manga...but i just KNEW that something wasn't right...
i KNEW he didn't say "myself"
I was like: "WTF?! Kaname isn't that selfish!! He is a sweety"
*sigh*
why do they make Kaname out to be the antagonist?
he is a good guy!!
and a sweetheart at that!!
I LOVE Kaname!!
and YAY ch 41 was AMAZING!!
although I'm a little worried on Yuuki's part...*sigh*...although she is a vampire now...she can't QUITE control her powers i don't think...
but damn people piss me off....
*sigh*
sorry imma hothead...
had to get that out...
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OMG I KNOW!!
although i didn't rush and check myself with the manga...but i just KNEW that something wasn't right...
i KNEW he didn't say "myself"
I was like: "WTF?! Kaname isn't that selfish!! He is a sweety"
*sigh*
why do they make Kaname out to be the antagonist?
he is a good guy!!
and a sweetheart at that!!
I LOVE Kaname!!
and YAY ch 41 was AMAZING!!
although I'm a little worried on Yuuki's part...*sigh*...although she is a vampire now...she can't QUITE control her powers i don't think...
but damn people piss me off....
*sigh*
sorry imma hothead...
had to get that out...


yeah i love kaname too.
he's really presented so differently in the anime.
but the way the story's turning out, i got a feeling he will turn out kinda heroic in the end, considering how much he had suffered and how much he had done to get things turning out for everyone's benefit.
that's just a hunch, though.
ei, it's ok to release steam once in a while. good thing there are forums like these where we can share our frustrations with everyone. that's why i love CR, yey!
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yesh yesh *nods*
so am i =DD
i think you are right about kaname and the end...
im quite cutious/anxious to see how yuuki does with her new abilities myself =DD
thats why the manga is just SO much better
*sigh*..
if they do an english version of this...
(which most likely they will) i can just see them screwing it up even MORE
and zero was just made to be a hero (aka KNIGHT) and save the day for kaname haha (that rhymed)
do you tink that the manga CAN have a slight chance of releasing more?
i was hoping for it to be like Bleach and Naruto

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yesh yesh *nods*
so am i =DD
i think you are right about kaname and the end...
im quite cutious/anxious to see how yuuki does with her new abilities myself =DD
thats why the manga is just SO much better
*sigh*..
if they do an english version of this...
(which most likely they will) i can just see them screwing it up even MORE
and zero was just made to be a hero (aka KNIGHT) and save the day for kaname haha (that rhymed)
do you tink that the manga CAN have a slight chance of releasing more?
i was hoping for it to be like Bleach and Naruto



hmmm...i really dont know if it can be like bleach or naruto. matsuri hino's previous works usually last for only 30 chapters or more. wanted was only four chapters. since VK is so popular, maybe she will do it differently...possibly...hopefully...maybe...perhaps?

one thing ive read though. it seems that hino-sama already knows how she will end the manga, and that she will stick to it no matter what. how she will end it is a hard guess for anyone.

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ah shimata!
*sigh*
i hope its good though...=DD
*curious*
where did you read that? is there any more info? or other manga's hino-san has written?
this sucks...*sigh*...
now that i know VK is coming to an end..im bummed...
*tear*
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ah shimata!
*sigh*
i hope its good though...=DD
*curious*
where did you read that? is there any more info? or other manga's hino-san has written?
this sucks...*sigh*...
now that i know VK is coming to an end..im bummed...
*tear*


i got the info re VK in the other threads as well as in the forums in other CR groups. i can't remember which, though.

as for matsuri hino's other mangas: Captive Heart (Toraware No Minoue), Meru Puri, Wanted, When This Dream is Over (Kono Yume ga Sametara).

they're all posted at onemanga.com and mangafox. i found them while clicking on links related to matsuri hino and VK. Captive Heart is still ongoing (in onemanga), while Meru Puri and Wanted are already completed. i can't find When This Dream is Over anywhere, though.

they're all very well-drawn, with hino-sama's trademark plotting style. so hard to guess where the story will go. i personally liked WANTED, very short but entertaining.

there are also some romantic scenes drawn very much like those in VK, esp in Captive Heart.
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I know one thing - everything what Kaname did was for Yuuki's sake. He's doing everything for her, so he's not selfish >.< VK anime kinda sucks but I still belive that it'll show Kaname in a good light :]
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VK anime made Kaname's character downright evil, and Zero unbelievably pathetic.
(Kaname does almost everything for, well, Yuuki and Zero is actually stronger than he is portrayed.)
VK manga explored more areas about almost all the characters.

Off topic, I need VK manga chapter 42 right now.
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