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After you die where will you go, Heaven or Hell?
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bah I honestly find the bible to be a massive contridiction thats why i asked....oh here is an interesting tidbit of info it is off topic but follows the same thing the being gay in the bible thing wasn't added until the 1600's by a prodistant priest who was homophobic
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The idea of after life might just be an illusion created by humans to create some kind of order to society, just think what we would be like if we knew that we wont be liable for anything we in this life, there is no proof so I say there is just eternal darkness after death ^_^
Posted 2/22/07
The bible is only contradictory if you are trying to be both Jewish and Christian, if you are christian you follow the New Testament, not the old (as much at least)
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but seriously I have friends from all faiths, a catholic, athiest,a christan with no sect and then me the agnostic so I don't know about the whole heaven or hell thing so I'll go with what my gut says and say they excist and try to pull for the better of two places
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bah I honestly find the bible to be a massive contridiction thats why i asked....oh here is an interesting tidbit of info it is off topic but follows the same thing the being gay in the bible thing wasn't added until the 1600's by a prodistant priest who was homophobic


hmm u shud check ur sources cuz bible wasnt written by priests but prophets n a priest cudnt have changed it cuz there were way more den one bible around so even if he changes it in his not every1 wud change it in theirs.. so that priest cudnt have made difference.. plus in the bible its always said dat man sleepin wit man n woman with woman is somethin wrong that we shudnt do
Posted 2/22/07
I think they just invented the whole heaven/hell concept to keep people from 'sinning' like hell, like scaring a little child "if you're bad, you'll go to heellllll" ooohhh
Posted 2/22/07
Hey, do you want people to go about sinning?
It is the ultimate psychological deterrent for some people
(though death is a better one I'll admit)
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cronosilver wrote:

bah I honestly find the bible to be a massive contridiction thats why i asked....oh here is an interesting tidbit of info it is off topic but follows the same thing the being gay in the bible thing wasn't added until the 1600's by a prodistant priest who was homophobic


hmm u shud check ur sources cuz bible wasnt written by priests but prophets n a priest cudnt have changed it cuz there were way more den one bible around so even if he changes it in his not every1 wud change it in theirs.. so that priest cudnt have made difference.. plus in the bible its always said dat man sleepin wit man n woman with woman is somethin wrong that we shudnt do
oh I totally agree , (not gay just for the record but pissed because my girlfriend cheated on me)....damn I really don't have much to say because I don't got the sources to back my information

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quick question... why is it that when you sin you have to confess (this is for the christans) BUT god forgives you of your sins after you commit them explain that


pfft and you guys are suppose to be anime fans? come on now mr. vash the stampede told you this one. If you make a mistake and you realize it was a mistake you can fix it. Basicallly, the reason behind repenting (confessing) is to acknowledge the fact that you made a mistake (sin) so your not denying it (of course this means your wanting to correct your mistake and not just saying it to be forgiven so you can just go off an sin again) and your asking for gods help to correct your mistake because your human, and of course for him to forgive you of your mistake :D.
Posted 2/22/07

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Hey, do you want people to go about sinning?
It is the ultimate psychological deterrent for some people
(though death is a better one I'll admit)


No I don't ... They should just be able to be good without having to believe they'll actually go to hell otherwise, I don't believe in hell but you don't see me going around murdering people
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cronosilver wrote:

quick question... why is it that when you sin you have to confess (this is for the christans) BUT god forgives you of your sins after you commit them explain that


pfft and you guys are suppose to be anime fans? come on now mr. vash the stampede told you this one. If you make a mistake and you realize it was a mistake you can fix it. Basicallly, the reason behind repenting (confessing) is to acknowledge the fact that you made a mistake (sin) so your not denying it and your asking for gods help to correct your mistake because your human, and of course for him to forgive you of your mistake :D.


....uh...uh shit its true vash is right but he isn't human! hes a plant!
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cronosilver wrote:


Superfly999 wrote:


cronosilver wrote:

quick question... why is it that when you sin you have to confess (this is for the christans) BUT god forgives you of your sins after you commit them explain that


pfft and you guys are suppose to be anime fans? come on now mr. vash the stampede told you this one. If you make a mistake and you realize it was a mistake you can fix it. Basicallly, the reason behind repenting (confessing) is to acknowledge the fact that you made a mistake (sin) so your not denying it and your asking for gods help to correct your mistake because your human, and of course for him to forgive you of your mistake :D.


....uh...uh shit its true vash is right but he isn't human! hes a plant!


lol its true but hes just so gangster it doesn't matter but what i meant by *being human* is that we aren't omnipotent and we can't help but stray from what is right sometimes.
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I will just cease to be.
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Superfly999 wrote:


cronosilver wrote:


Superfly999 wrote:


cronosilver wrote:

quick question... why is it that when you sin you have to confess (this is for the christans) BUT god forgives you of your sins after you commit them explain that


pfft and you guys are suppose to be anime fans? come on now mr. vash the stampede told you this one. If you make a mistake and you realize it was a mistake you can fix it. Basicallly, the reason behind repenting (confessing) is to acknowledge the fact that you made a mistake (sin) so your not denying it and your asking for gods help to correct your mistake because your human, and of course for him to forgive you of your mistake :D.


....uh...uh shit its true vash is right but he isn't human! hes a plant!


lol its true but hes just so gangster it doesn't matter but what i meant by *being human* is that we aren't omnipotent and we can't help but stray from what is right sometimes.

true true, that omnipresences is always there you just have to consentrate on it and you will notice it
Posted 2/22/07

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No I don't ... They should just be able to be good without having to believe they'll actually go to hell otherwise, I don't believe in hell but you don't see me going around murdering people


Maybe your expectancy levels for the resultant punisment (prison or death) occurring are high. And you'd be shunned from society if you were a murderer, and humans happen to be social animals.
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