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how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!

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WHITEbReAd wrote:

how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!



what if there really isnt a heaven? just an afterlife that looks just like this world?
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saiyukilover wrote:


WHITEbReAd wrote:

how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!



what if there really isnt a heaven? just an afterlife that looks just like this world?


well I don't think there is one. And if its a replica of this world then I will find a way to commit suicide and escape!
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saiyukilover wrote:


WHITEbReAd wrote:


saiyukilover wrote:


WHITEbReAd wrote:

how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!



what if there really isnt a heaven? just an afterlife that looks just like this world?


well I don't think there is one. And if its a replica of this world then I will find a way to commit suicide and escape!


then what DO you beleive in?
and no youre not commiting suicide.
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well if your an angel and go to hevan it's kinda dumb but it means your extremely badass i don't remember where in the bible and why it's there but it's really awsome and that's the only reason why i acctually remebered it but "supposedly" god sent an angel down to earth cause people's were being dumb and needed some sense beaten in to them and then the angel killed like more than 10,000 people in one night that's fucking badd ass if you ask me
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Posted 7/1/08

WHITEbReAd wrote:


saiyukilover wrote:


WHITEbReAd wrote:


saiyukilover wrote:


WHITEbReAd wrote:

how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!



what if there really isnt a heaven? just an afterlife that looks just like this world?


well I don't think there is one. And if its a replica of this world then I will find a way to commit suicide and escape!


then what DO you beleive in?
and no youre not commiting suicide.


well I'm not sure I believe in any kind of afterlife. I used to have this weird idea that whatever your ideal world is, thats where you'd go. But, now that I'm an almost-adult and understand about brain functions and shit, I tend to discount the whole afterlife theory. But I'm open to new ideas and possibilities.
y not? Technically I'd already be dead so what would it matter?
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hmm...well I heard that when you die, 2 doors will be shown before you 1 of them shows you the things of earthly desires the other i forgot hee, but if you pick the door with the earthly desires you will see that its just an illusion and fall down in hell for eternal suffering, and no there is no freedom in hell, they say that hell is the lake of fire and all non believers go there bunch up, but the truth is...you'll be alone. hmm I imagine hell from what iv'e heard from sunday schools every sunday (I'm baptist) is like drowning but not in water from fire hotter than magma...and its endless..even though gazzilion of people are in hell you'll still be alone.
and the thing about going to heaven and hell, you dont go to hell just because your a sinner, you go to hell if your not saved and dont believe in GOD. good deeds is like a dirty rag next to God.
This is a list of things that won't get you to heaven:
Being nice
doing good deeds
give offerings
being a member of the church
attending church
anything except the only way

Okay this is the only way to get to heaven,

Be saved
Believe in Jesus as your savior

okay about the appearance of heaven, the ground is made of gold, your home depends on how you lived your life on earth
and the spirits living in heaven will be influenced by God and so having no evil thoughts, intentions, etc. only the opposite of evil, and its going to be like church, you praise God by singing and dancing...also no night time, i think lol oh yeah...I dont think anyone would really read all this but, If you find yourself disagreeing then, try going to church and listen..I'm just 15 and really not that into religion YET i guess...but this is one of the things i know already.



well yeah. i hate the whole heaven/hell idea. my gf is wiccan and i dont really have a religion but i beleive something is out there.
how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


You might hate it or you might love it, but it doesnt change the fact that it might be true. There is only one life we will live, and let's say that heaven is not true, following Christ will have lead you to a good life that you can pass to your family and friends. You are somewhat saved from the bad things of this world occuring from the bad choices. But what if heaven is true? Then you will be eternally condemned in hell. I believe in heaven and if i am right i will be there one day, and if i am wrong i really did not lose anything but have lived a good life. I believe the Bible because it has not been disproved, it is even supported by history and science. If it were merely man-made it would have contradicted itself, but being written by people inspired by God made it true and proven after thousands of years.
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U can fly ^.^ I wana fly with Mohamed !
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seriously all the bible said is if you believe in god you will live in heaven when you die and be "happy everafter". Well that might be a good answer for simpletons but lets look at heaven in a realistic way. Since heaven is perfect, then there probably won't be movies, games, anything "fun" since these distracts you from god and is "sinful". cussing is sin, sexual humor is sin, violence is sin, vulgor words is sin. so you can be sure you will be restricted in activities. I enivison heaven to be more like catholic school, with strict catholic nuns and all you do everyday is pray and worship God 24/7 forever.
Well lets look at hell- it will be eternal suffering. however what will go to hell? games, internet, movies, (you bet crunchyrol will be in hell because it doesn't support God) and most important of all freedom. Sure you might suffer, but at least you got freedom and isn't America all about freedom? freedom to act, think, speak. In heaven you will lose fredom, only to be told by the almighty waht is right and wrong and you have to worry about behaving well or you might be kicked to hell by God for whatever unsinful acts like the devil.


Don't obsess over words of others so much. Find the meaning of this "heaven" and "hell" for yourself then decide what path to take. To me, pain is my cocaine. Hell is considered eternal suffering by people from all walks of life. Thats cool. I'll take that. Pain brings me closer to myself. Its like a sense of awareness. All my sense are heightened. Existence becomes more meaningful. I recently went through a physically and mentally painful experience. After the pain went away I felt washed away. It was like I had a spiritual awakening. It felt good. The pain felt good. The tension felt good. The sensation felt good. My outlook on life changed. I left revived and revitalized. Heaven is apparently considered salvation. Also good. So to me its all irrelevant.

Don't be so consumed by the words of religious authority figures and zealots.
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WHITEbReAd wrote:


Flamehaz3 wrote:

hmm...well I heard that when you die, 2 doors will be shown before you 1 of them shows you the things of earthly desires the other i forgot hee, but if you pick the door with the earthly desires you will see that its just an illusion and fall down in hell for eternal suffering, and no there is no freedom in hell, they say that hell is the lake of fire and all non believers go there bunch up, but the truth is...you'll be alone. hmm I imagine hell from what iv'e heard from sunday schools every sunday (I'm baptist) is like drowning but not in water from fire hotter than magma...and its endless..even though gazzilion of people are in hell you'll still be alone.
and the thing about going to heaven and hell, you dont go to hell just because your a sinner, you go to hell if your not saved and dont believe in GOD. good deeds is like a dirty rag next to God.
This is a list of things that won't get you to heaven:
Being nice
doing good deeds
give offerings
being a member of the church
attending church
anything except the only way

Okay this is the only way to get to heaven,

Be saved
Believe in Jesus as your savior

okay about the appearance of heaven, the ground is made of gold, your home depends on how you lived your life on earth
and the spirits living in heaven will be influenced by God and so having no evil thoughts, intentions, etc. only the opposite of evil, and its going to be like church, you praise God by singing and dancing...also no night time, i think lol oh yeah...I dont think anyone would really read all this but, If you find yourself disagreeing then, try going to church and listen..I'm just 15 and really not that into religion YET i guess...but this is one of the things i know already.



well yeah. i hate the whole heaven/hell idea. my gf is wiccan and i dont really have a religion but i beleive something is out there.
how can you actually beleive anysacred text when theyre all written by humans?


You might hate it or you might love it, but it doesnt change the fact that it might be true. There is only one life we will live, and let's say that heaven is not true, following Christ will have lead you to a good life that you can pass to your family and friends. You are somewhat saved from the bad things of this world occuring from the bad choices. But what if heaven is true? Then you will be eternally condemned in hell. I believe in heaven and if i am right i will be there one day, and if i am wrong i really did not lose anything but have lived a good life. I believe the Bible because it has not been disproved, it is even supported by history and science. If it were merely man-made it would have contradicted itself, but being written by people inspired by God made it true and proven after thousands of years.


The bible does contradict itself.
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What's funny is that God is the forgiven one and everything, but he chooses to send people to hell.

Anyways, I can't go to heaven.




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what the hell in my some family like African's or Saudi children are grow to be far religious what would do u think if there parents were born there and there children here and raised here how do u think they will there out
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im on neither side of the argument, there is no proof heavin exists, there is no proof that heavin doesn't exists. choose your belief, you have a 50% chance of being right.
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I believe that when one dies they lose their flesh so half of what they are goes away. Leaving the Spirit and the Spirit could enjoy Heaven and maybe plan to go back to Earth or some other Sentient fleshy existence. I believe life as a spirit is slow and maybe dull so the flesh for many spirits would be fun.
Posted 7/2/08 , edited 7/2/08
First of all, in heaven and hell there will be no "games", "movies", and all those "fun" things. Why? Because those things are merely earthly things - they belong to earth and you cannot find them in heaven and hell.

There will be no nuns or schools in heaven because in heaven, there would only be souls, angels, and the like who will praise and adore God. In heaven, promises of happiness are made and that is equal to freedom. In heaven, all souls who believe in God will go there so the question of God teaching what is right from wrong is already answered. Besides, everyone should learn that already here in earth.

However, in Hell, there is no freedom. In hell, I think all you will do there is to serve Satan. Meaning - somewhat being a slave to him. The souls in hell do not care about each other. It's like there's no life there and where is freedom in that?

Also, America cannot be compared to Heaven. America is not heaven. If you think deeper, America does not even have freedom as well as other nations. You will only find this if you choose to.
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