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UFC, MMA what do you think?
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Posted 2/24/07
Is it a real legitimate sport or do you guys consider it barbarian entertainment?
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Posted 2/24/07
Aren't those the ones you get in PPV?
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Posted 2/24/07
yeah but spike TV airs it also on basic cable
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Posted 2/24/07
I consider it both.

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrAfwtpUZGc&mode=related&search=
Usually comes down to grappling, with guys on the floor and one getting beaten on...

There are sill rules and junk for safety, so its not like crazy Chinese kunk fu movie style with glass shards on the fists, haha.
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Posted 2/24/07
I would stick to boxing...the violence is too much for me...haha seriously.
Posted 2/25/07
hmmm, UFC better cuz its more realistic... MMA? dunno about that
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Posted 2/25/07
I absolutely love it.

I spend most of my time online browsing MMA news, or on the UG (MMA forum)

Anyone watch Pride FC last night? Absolutely insane, the best PPV I've seen in ... maybe ever. Crazy-good.

Ichi, MMA=mixed martial arts, which is what the UFC is, used to be known as NHB (no holds barred) but the whole "Human cockfighting" press it recieved changed things somewhat.

MMA is the closest thing to true fighting we are likely to ever get, and I have long since considered fighting to be the truest test of ones physicality there is.
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Posted 2/25/07
UFC is MMA the MMA stands for mixed martial arts. Also the UFC rocks always has always will. Wayyyy better than fake wrestling or just boxing. Definitely more realistic
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Posted 2/25/07
Here, have a HL video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5804275960634938624

This is by far the best HL I have ever seen, gives me goosebumps when I watch it
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Posted 2/27/07
Speaking of PRIDE, I have Sakuraba's autograph, he's very cool. I don't know why everyone hates him in the west, although he did destroy the Gracie Family, he deserves respect not all this shit talk.
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Posted 2/27/07
The UFC's rules a very grappler friendly though. The ring is also advantages for fighters favoring take downs. A lot of the other MMA forms encourage more striking which is generally more exciting. Personally I feel it makes you less effective should an emergency occur due to the training you go through in order to not cripple someone. A large number of the techniques I would deploy in self defense are ones that cause serious harm because they are the most effective.
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Posted 2/27/07
You have Saku's autograph? Oh man, that's awesome. Love the guy, absolute legend. A lot if not all people love Sak on the MMA boards I go on, although I could understand Brazilians not being too enamored with him...

Did you watch the last Pride Cbi? It was simply stunning.

Hop, there is actually a rather controversial trend particularly in the UFC nowadays of standing the fighters up much to early, agreed the cage does lend itself to GnP style wrestlers pretty well, but many people believe BJJ'rs and other submission fighters are getting the cold shoulder due to the rule changes, the Gracie family in particular are less than thrilled by both the stand-ups and the timelimits, and I cant help but agree with their chain of thought.

Please dont use the serious harm line though my friend, the UFC was in part created to combat the TMA (traditional martial arts) attitude of being "Too deadly for the ring" and unfortunately, barring nut shots, eye gouges (and you are gonna have to do some serious damage to that eye, I can post you an old John Marsh vid for reference...) laceration manipulation, and small joint submissions, pretty much everything goes. And all of those techniques were legal in the early UFCS.

I don't see how training MMA could possibly make you less effective in an emergency situation, you are training at full resistance against other people, you are learning what works, and how to apply what works in a realistic situation, Katas, and unresistant drilling will do very, very little to aid you at all, you will have no idea how to apply the techniques you have learnt in real life, nor even if they work at all.

*Edit* Just noticed your poker avatar, I play poker for a living, cool to see other players on here. Oh and by the by, the WSOP commentator Lorn whatshisface did the commentary on the last Pride PPV
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Posted 2/27/07
^ I trained in MMA for a couple years in college. You learn the submission game yes but for some reason it's not encouraged to say break an elbow during a block, or kick for the knee cap or groin. Even during submissions the fighting stops at the arm bar and such. I realize that the sport was made to test the effectiveness of various styles of fighting. I took years of shotokan prior to anything else, I was taught exactly where to strike and how to cripple people (note: joints, arteries, throat, eyes, brain stem none of these are legal in UFC). A lot of martial artists were, MMA is a sport and while it's a fight and a tough one your goal isn't to destroy your opponents future. I'm not saying they aren't gifted nor able to take care of themselves. I'm saying for someone of my size and strength (not a lot of either) not taking advantage of cheap shots and crippling blows would hinder me greatly in an actual fight. I do enjoy the sport immensely both watching and participating, though I find due to my short reach and lack of grappling training I'm usually out matched in the ring.

edit: playing at Foxwoods in March for the FPC?
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Posted 2/27/07
No I unfortunately didn't see the PRIDE the other day. But back to your point about the new emphasis on striking, its pretty obvious why this is happening. The beer filled crowds like to see 'action' and to them that means fist on head rather than any groundwork which is more technical.
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Posted 2/27/07
Pride is so much better than UFC
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