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Posted 7/12/08 , edited 7/12/08

digs wrote:

I have another question that I have never gotten a strait answer from a Muslim when asking it. What does the Koran say about marriage and divorce? Someone once told me that a man can have over 4 wives or something like that, and that all he has to do to divorce her is say that he does. What does the Koran say?


the answer to the q is that a men can marry only 4 women but not at the same time and their is conditions on marrying a scond wife,its if:

the wife is sick and cannot serve her husband
she died as of a sickness
the men can treat them equal

i dont really know verses from the quran as their 114 surat in the quran and u can also go these websites to read more about islam:

http://www.readingislam.com/english
http://www.islamonline.net
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Apparently there is a holding facility in Saudi Arabia where extremists who were involved in "lesser jihad" of bombing among other things, are sent from Guantanamo Bay to there.

The difference between this place is rather than using an oppressive, westernized hell-hole, the Saudis have opted for a much more peacefully environment, suppling the "guests" (prisoners really but the people who ran the place insisted upon this tag) with a luxurious lifestyle. Why? To make them forget the ideology that made them who they were. Surrounding them with kindness and daily mosque sessions should alter they're outlook. Its more of a rehabilitation than incarceration. I think it may work. Here another link that goes much more in-depth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7496375.stm
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1.Why do muslims get so anouyed when some one make fun of muhamid
but not say anything when god is made fun of
(well only the ones i've met or heard of i'm sure there is other muslims that heat that too)

2. why is it that quite a few muslim i've met(not all of them) seem to think it's ok to chop a begers hands off


m goin to answer ur first question, Prophet Muhammad is the centre figure of Islam. Is the same when someone insult one of ur religion figure.
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but surely god is the main figure not the prophet
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geren_ribon wrote:

but surely god is the main figure not the prophet


well i think i'd be discomforted if someone insulted Muhammed or Allah. I think it's a bit weird that they don't care if someone insults. ok i'm going to make a wierd comparison : if someone teases ur face u'll get insulted but if they tease ur body u'll still get insulted.

hope it helps
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geren_ribon wrote:

1.Why do muslims get so anouyed when some one make fun of muhamid
but not say anything when god is made fun of
(well only the ones i've met or heard of i'm sure there is other muslims that heat that too)

2. why is it that quite a few muslim i've met(not all of them) seem to think it's ok to chop a begers hands off


im answering your 2nd question..... well ages ago the law was that if you stole then your hand wuld get chopped so noone would steal in those times. It would work.

At the time of Muslim`s Khalifa (khalifa =president that time)Omar bin Hattab people were looking for poor or beggar to give their zekhat(zekhat is money that rich people give their 1/40 of their profit to the people who need).And at the time of Ottoman Empire also it is said that people put money in a bag and hang on a tree that poor people can get it,and that money wait there for weeks . People wouldn't steal.

Obviously times have changed so we don't do that anymore.....like we also don't use medieval torturing methods for these who go against the law. I do not really know about beggars hands getting chopped of though.
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ikari47 wrote:

My question for our local Muslim expert (thanks for being a reliable resource, btw), is what do you need to do to get into heaven? I realize it will probably vary depending on the sect (though I can't imagine Islam being as messed up as Christianity when it comes to having so many different denominations), but I'm curious. Most Christians believe Christ's atonement did a lot for them and they don't need to do much, which i think is bullshit. What do Muslims need to do to get into heaven, and what happens to non-Muslims?


The things you have to do are the 5 pillars of islam.

1 Shahadah, the Testimony of Faith
2 Salāt, Ritual Prayer
3 Zakāt, The Paying of Alms
4 Sawm, Fasting on Ramadan
5 Hajj, The Pilgrimage to Mecca

In summary, the practices are (in order of priority):

The Testimony of Faith (Shahadah) - the declaration that there is none worthy of worship except Allah (Arabic:God) and that Muhammad is His messenger.
Ritual Prayer (Salat) - establishing of the five daily Prayers.
Obligatory (religious) alms giving(Zakat) - which is generally 2.5% of the total savings for a rich man working in trade or industry, and 10% or 20% of the annual produce for agriculturists. This money or produce is distributed among the poor.
Sawm, Fasting from dawn to dusk
The Pilgrimage to Mecca (Hajj) - this is done during the month of Zul Hijjah, and is compulsory once in a lifetime for one who has the ability to do it. If the Muslim is in ill health or in debt, he or she is not required to perform Hajj. They do this to show moral importance to Allah, and to join the Ummah (family of Islam).

thats basically what you gotta do.

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Posted 7/12/08

geren_ribon wrote:

but surely god is the main figure not the prophet


I think it would be like people making fun of Moses... and if I was Islamic I'd feel very uncomfortable if a person was being insulting towards Muhammad :\
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Posted 7/13/08 , edited 7/13/08
Muslims aren't bad. The brain-washed Muslims are no different from brain-washed Christians. That's what I think.
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geren_ribon wrote:

but surely god is the main figure not the prophet



God is the main figure but Mohammed repisents god on behalf of the people.

Also about the marrying 4 wifes the Koran uses strict rules which is you have to love all your wifes equally and there offspring, every wife must have the same financial backing. Seeing as it is imposibl;e to love two people in the same quantity it is not acceptable to marry two or more women unles there is an extreemly good reason to do so.


Personally I believe these prisions are great ideas as they liberate the minds of the people who had ben brainwashed by Muslim terrorist orginisations. They did not know any better, as most of these foot soilders are taken by extremist camps at a very young age. It is also good to see how these men are reflecting on there errors and correcting there erors. I wish that all prisions would be like this to some extent (but with no religous bias involved).
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how does the middle east making algebra have to do with religion? math and religion are really very different. You titled this thread islam and went to talk about things not dealing with religion, I have nothing against islam. Someone's religion doesnt have anything to do with if they made mathematics, I know someone who is a muslim so I've conversed with her before on the differences of our beliefs, but she never mentioned math being in the Qu'ran
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BunnizGoRAWR wrote:

how does the middle east making algebra have to do with religion? math and religion are really very different. You titled this thread islam and went to talk about things not dealing with religion, I have nothing against islam. Someone's religion doesnt have anything to do with if they made mathematics, I know someone who is a muslim so I've conversed with her before on the differences of our beliefs, but she never mentioned math being in the Qu'ran



It was made cause the schollar heavly studied Quran which lead him in the direction to discovering algebra. Also maths is in the Qu'ran (Koran) and so is allot of science like what a fetus looked like and medical tips.So yes Algebra (which is actually named after the person who first used it, but the name was changed when they put it in latin) is directly coralated to Islam.
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Posted 7/13/08
Not really, The Babylonians were actually the ones first credited with algebra over 4,000 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_algebra The name Algebra comes from the man who wrote about it near the year 820 AD
Posted 7/14/08
What I want to talk about is Islam and sport, especially sport and women from the Islamic faith.
When participating in sports, the clothing must be Islamically acceptable. This would therefore exclude shorts, t-shirts, leotards, swimming costumes etc.

I heard that It is very important to ensure that there are no males watching and that mixing of sexes is forbidden in normal situations, except in special situations under certain conditions, let alone in a sporting arena or exercise facility. It also restricts your activities, and modesty would not allow this in any case.
Permission for a Muslim woman to reveal her hair, arms etc. is permitted to her husband, father, mother and so on.

So what I was wondering about is if any of the female Muslims here are participating in any sport activities, and if they are allowed to do certain ones where they would need to uncover themselves.

Since I find sport to be a very important part of a human's life, because of all its profits for the body and soul, I was wondering how much a woman can get involved with sport activities. >_>

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Posted 7/14/08

geren_ribon wrote:

1.Why do muslims get so anouyed when some one make fun of muhamid
but not say anything when god is made fun of
(well only the ones i've met or heard of i'm sure there is other muslims that heat that too)

2. why is it that quite a few muslim i've met(not all of them) seem to think it's ok to chop a begers hands off


1.Not all do, mostly the extremely conservitive ones. Others can laugh it off. It's kind of like how deeply religious christians get offended whenever they see a satire of Jesus. I'd find it deeply offensive to say that an entire religion can be blamed and stereotyped by the extreme beliefs and actions of the muslim terrorists if I was muslim.

2.O_o I've never heard that one. I guess it also depends of personal beliefs. Why do many Christians think it's alright to shame and ostracize gay people? (it's not only christians who hold that last belief, but that was the first thing that came to my mind when searching for an example)
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