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I question orange-kun intentions I really do when I think back to season 1 I wanted to cry when shirley died I never thought so much about her I alway thought she was a neutral character and she simply liked lelouch for who he was even when she remembered he killed her father and got rid of her memories I actually thought it was cute I actually bow to her because in the end she wanted to help lelouch in the end with his war. Thats was so sad and I love the MAID MY GOD I NEVER KNEW SHE CAN KICK ASS LIKE THAT I was rooting for her so much ^_^
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somehw i gt a feeling is orange hu killed shirley mayb rollo used the time lapse when he saw orange but orange cancelled it n killed shirley?tis is only a guess tho


Why would Orange kill Shirley? First of all, he was with Lelouch. Second, does he know Shirley? Does he even care to kill her? Third, when Shirley mentioned Nunnally, Rolo gets mad and uses his Geass on her. I don't see how it's that big of a mystery...

Edit: WAAIT I take this all back. I watched ep 13 again, and.. I think Orange DID kill her O_O Maybe. BECAUSE.. Rolo didn't have any weapons, did he? I never saw him with any.. And I noticed that when Shirley was dead/dying, she was still holding the gun, so Rolo couldn't have shot her.. Unless he gave her the gun back? O_o But I'm confused since when Rolo used his geass, that mask fell.. Showing that he's also been hiding stuff.. And it didn't look like Shirley had any bullet holes, but a slash on her chest.. A slash that could've been from Orange's.. knife.. things.. O_O And he WAS asked to take care of any obstacles.. :x


Rolo could use his Geass on her to stop time, then took the gun from her ( like when he did it to Lelouch the first time ) then shot her, then returned the gun before the Geass could be gone. :)

P.S. Orange-kun is with Lelouch. He couldn't have teleported or use the Geass Canceller when he cannot move. And blood was on his face. It was pretty painful to move. Just by the looks of it.


It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them
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Miyaviya wrote:


chibidynz wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


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somehw i gt a feeling is orange hu killed shirley mayb rollo used the time lapse when he saw orange but orange cancelled it n killed shirley?tis is only a guess tho


Why would Orange kill Shirley? First of all, he was with Lelouch. Second, does he know Shirley? Does he even care to kill her? Third, when Shirley mentioned Nunnally, Rolo gets mad and uses his Geass on her. I don't see how it's that big of a mystery...

Edit: WAAIT I take this all back. I watched ep 13 again, and.. I think Orange DID kill her O_O Maybe. BECAUSE.. Rolo didn't have any weapons, did he? I never saw him with any.. And I noticed that when Shirley was dead/dying, she was still holding the gun, so Rolo couldn't have shot her.. Unless he gave her the gun back? O_o But I'm confused since when Rolo used his geass, that mask fell.. Showing that he's also been hiding stuff.. And it didn't look like Shirley had any bullet holes, but a slash on her chest.. A slash that could've been from Orange's.. knife.. things.. O_O And he WAS asked to take care of any obstacles.. :x


Rolo could use his Geass on her to stop time, then took the gun from her ( like when he did it to Lelouch the first time ) then shot her, then returned the gun before the Geass could be gone. :)

P.S. Orange-kun is with Lelouch. He couldn't have teleported or use the Geass Canceller when he cannot move. And blood was on his face. It was pretty painful to move. Just by the looks of it.


It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.
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Miyaviya wrote:


chibidynz wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


orichi wrote:

somehw i gt a feeling is orange hu killed shirley mayb rollo used the time lapse when he saw orange but orange cancelled it n killed shirley?tis is only a guess tho


Why would Orange kill Shirley? First of all, he was with Lelouch. Second, does he know Shirley? Does he even care to kill her? Third, when Shirley mentioned Nunnally, Rolo gets mad and uses his Geass on her. I don't see how it's that big of a mystery...

Edit: WAAIT I take this all back. I watched ep 13 again, and.. I think Orange DID kill her O_O Maybe. BECAUSE.. Rolo didn't have any weapons, did he? I never saw him with any.. And I noticed that when Shirley was dead/dying, she was still holding the gun, so Rolo couldn't have shot her.. Unless he gave her the gun back? O_o But I'm confused since when Rolo used his geass, that mask fell.. Showing that he's also been hiding stuff.. And it didn't look like Shirley had any bullet holes, but a slash on her chest.. A slash that could've been from Orange's.. knife.. things.. O_O And he WAS asked to take care of any obstacles.. :x


Rolo could use his Geass on her to stop time, then took the gun from her ( like when he did it to Lelouch the first time ) then shot her, then returned the gun before the Geass could be gone. :)

P.S. Orange-kun is with Lelouch. He couldn't have teleported or use the Geass Canceller when he cannot move. And blood was on his face. It was pretty painful to move. Just by the looks of it.


It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Yeah. He could have been the one who killed Shirley. But Rolo was there. Rolo couldn't escape if he even uses his Geass when Orange is there already.. Or maybe he used his Geass to escape because he knew Orange was there then Orange found Shirley and then cancelled the Geass on her then killed her. Or maybe stabbed her to death. Maybe Rolo used his Geass on Shirley to lure Orange to her then Orange could kill her instead of him killing Shirley to prevent guilt or something. :)
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I agree with every one else that thinks Rollo killed Shirley, unless I get proven otherwise

Ps. Rollo went too far, cause it really sucks when Shirley dies
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Miyaviya wrote:


chibidynz wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


orichi wrote:

somehw i gt a feeling is orange hu killed shirley mayb rollo used the time lapse when he saw orange but orange cancelled it n killed shirley?tis is only a guess tho


Why would Orange kill Shirley? First of all, he was with Lelouch. Second, does he know Shirley? Does he even care to kill her? Third, when Shirley mentioned Nunnally, Rolo gets mad and uses his Geass on her. I don't see how it's that big of a mystery...

Edit: WAAIT I take this all back. I watched ep 13 again, and.. I think Orange DID kill her O_O Maybe. BECAUSE.. Rolo didn't have any weapons, did he? I never saw him with any.. And I noticed that when Shirley was dead/dying, she was still holding the gun, so Rolo couldn't have shot her.. Unless he gave her the gun back? O_o But I'm confused since when Rolo used his geass, that mask fell.. Showing that he's also been hiding stuff.. And it didn't look like Shirley had any bullet holes, but a slash on her chest.. A slash that could've been from Orange's.. knife.. things.. O_O And he WAS asked to take care of any obstacles.. :x


Rolo could use his Geass on her to stop time, then took the gun from her ( like when he did it to Lelouch the first time ) then shot her, then returned the gun before the Geass could be gone. :)

P.S. Orange-kun is with Lelouch. He couldn't have teleported or use the Geass Canceller when he cannot move. And blood was on his face. It was pretty painful to move. Just by the looks of it.


It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.


I repeat,"Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them”
I also thought it was obvious, but when I saw Shirley still holding the gun when she was on the floor, I had second thoughts.. And it was kind of hard for me to see the hole
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chibidynz wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


chibidynz wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


orichi wrote:

somehw i gt a feeling is orange hu killed shirley mayb rollo used the time lapse when he saw orange but orange cancelled it n killed shirley?tis is only a guess tho


Why would Orange kill Shirley? First of all, he was with Lelouch. Second, does he know Shirley? Does he even care to kill her? Third, when Shirley mentioned Nunnally, Rolo gets mad and uses his Geass on her. I don't see how it's that big of a mystery...

Edit: WAAIT I take this all back. I watched ep 13 again, and.. I think Orange DID kill her O_O Maybe. BECAUSE.. Rolo didn't have any weapons, did he? I never saw him with any.. And I noticed that when Shirley was dead/dying, she was still holding the gun, so Rolo couldn't have shot her.. Unless he gave her the gun back? O_o But I'm confused since when Rolo used his geass, that mask fell.. Showing that he's also been hiding stuff.. And it didn't look like Shirley had any bullet holes, but a slash on her chest.. A slash that could've been from Orange's.. knife.. things.. O_O And he WAS asked to take care of any obstacles.. :x


Rolo could use his Geass on her to stop time, then took the gun from her ( like when he did it to Lelouch the first time ) then shot her, then returned the gun before the Geass could be gone. :)

P.S. Orange-kun is with Lelouch. He couldn't have teleported or use the Geass Canceller when he cannot move. And blood was on his face. It was pretty painful to move. Just by the looks of it.


It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Yeah. He could have been the one who killed Shirley. But Rolo was there. Rolo couldn't escape if he even uses his Geass when Orange is there already.. Or maybe he used his Geass to escape because he knew Orange was there then Orange found Shirley and then cancelled the Geass on her then killed her. Or maybe stabbed her to death. Maybe Rolo used his Geass on Shirley to lure Orange to her then Orange could kill her instead of him killing Shirley to prevent guilt or something. :)


I think Rolo would've left way before Orange actually gets there.. it looked like Shirley had been on the ground for a while, but who knows. And if Orange did shoot Shirley, I doubt he'd give her the gun back. He could've stabbed her, but since no body knows who did it for sure, all we can do is wait for the real answer
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i think rollo is really hiding something coz the mask fell to the ground and it's possible he killed shirley when he's mad of what she had said!
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lastly why can't Nina die ? i mean really she is very annoying
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Miyaviya wrote:


Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:

It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.


I repeat,"Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them”
I also thought it was obvious, but when I saw Shirley still holding the gun when she was on the floor, I had second thoughts.. And it was kind of hard for me to see the hole


Sorry about the bad quality, I had trouble taking screenshots with VLC player, so I had to wait and redownload 13 in avi so I could use windows media player. Below are two pictures a couple seconds apart, when the "camera" is panning down Shirley's body.

In regards to the going ahead and clearing any obstacles, I believe that Orange and Lelouch probably went opposite ways, or went ahead with the train to watch for threats, since Lelouch doesn't really need a personal guard while he's just Lelouch. As stated by others, there also isn't much of a reason for Orange to kill Shirley, and the fact that Rollo disapeared is kind of suspicious in itself. Also as stated before, Orange wouldn't have put the gun back in Shirley's hand if he had honestly thought she was a threat to Lelouch, but Rollo knew that if he killed Shirley and Lulu found out.. he would probably be killed. I suppose there could always be twists in the story though.

High Definition images of the wound below.


Theres another angle later on when she's about to die that shows it even better, I'll post it if you'd like.
It's at around 21:56 on the version I was watching.


Edit: By the way, my first post wasn't like.. aggressively targeted at you or anything, I just quoted you because it was a sort of reply to the entire discussion of who killed her.
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ah.. ok. just watched epi 11 till 13. epi 13 was very2 sad & touching!!!!! at last, shirley confessed. it was so sweet that i nearly cried. what the hell's rollo's problem. he's so obsessed with lulu isn't he?? =_= i'm glad to say that i HATE him now. how can he ever killed shirley?? not to forget, orange-kun's loyalty to marianne.. & now to lulu.. it was taouching too!!!! the story's getting better except the fact that shirley died... she was NOT supposed to die.
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Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:

It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.


I repeat,"Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them”
I also thought it was obvious, but when I saw Shirley still holding the gun when she was on the floor, I had second thoughts.. And it was kind of hard for me to see the hole


Sorry about the bad quality, I had trouble taking screenshots with VLC player, so I had to wait and redownload 13 in avi so I could use windows media player. Below are two pictures a couple seconds apart, when the "camera" is panning down Shirley's body.

In regards to the going ahead and clearing any obstacles, I believe that Orange and Lelouch probably went opposite ways, or went ahead with the train to watch for threats, since Lelouch doesn't really need a personal guard while he's just Lelouch. As stated by others, there also isn't much of a reason for Orange to kill Shirley, and the fact that Rollo disapeared is kind of suspicious in itself. Also as stated before, Orange wouldn't have put the gun back in Shirley's hand if he had honestly thought she was a threat to Lelouch, but Rollo knew that if he killed Shirley and Lulu found out.. he would probably be killed. I suppose there could always be twists in the story though.

High Definition images of the wound below.


Theres another angle later on when she's about to die that shows it even better, I'll post it if you'd like.
It's at around 21:56 on the version I was watching.


Edit: By the way, my first post wasn't like.. aggressively targeted at you or anything, I just quoted you because it was a sort of reply to the entire discussion of who killed her.



whoa.. u noticed the little hole??? i can hardly see it since she's drenched with blood. i just follow my 'instinct' that she was shot by a gun & i'm 80% sure rollo was the one who shot her. do u need reasons to prove that??? i don't think we need more since we know that rollo's jealous of everyone who tries to get close to lulu.. remember epi 12(cupid's day)?? =_=

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Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:

It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.


I repeat,"Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them”
I also thought it was obvious, but when I saw Shirley still holding the gun when she was on the floor, I had second thoughts.. And it was kind of hard for me to see the hole


Sorry about the bad quality, I had trouble taking screenshots with VLC player, so I had to wait and redownload 13 in avi so I could use windows media player. Below are two pictures a couple seconds apart, when the "camera" is panning down Shirley's body.

In regards to the going ahead and clearing any obstacles, I believe that Orange and Lelouch probably went opposite ways, or went ahead with the train to watch for threats, since Lelouch doesn't really need a personal guard while he's just Lelouch. As stated by others, there also isn't much of a reason for Orange to kill Shirley, and the fact that Rollo disapeared is kind of suspicious in itself. Also as stated before, Orange wouldn't have put the gun back in Shirley's hand if he had honestly thought she was a threat to Lelouch, but Rollo knew that if he killed Shirley and Lulu found out.. he would probably be killed. I suppose there could always be twists in the story though.

High Definition images of the wound below.


Theres another angle later on when she's about to die that shows it even better, I'll post it if you'd like.
It's at around 21:56 on the version I was watching.


Edit: By the way, my first post wasn't like.. aggressively targeted at you or anything, I just quoted you because it was a sort of reply to the entire discussion of who killed her.


I watched the episode again.. for the third time.. lol with my sister XD And I saw the blood gushing out of the hole. Yeah, Orange didn't kill her then.. Doesn't Rolo have a knife? I was at Tegaki blog, and I saw a drawing that said something about Rolo's signature knife, and my sister had mentioned that Rolo carries a knife.. So he probably did just stab her.. But the roundness of the wound is confusing @__@ Atleast we only have to wait a few more days before knowing what really happened.. if they do decide to show us
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Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:

It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.


I repeat,"Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them”
I also thought it was obvious, but when I saw Shirley still holding the gun when she was on the floor, I had second thoughts.. And it was kind of hard for me to see the hole


Sorry about the bad quality, I had trouble taking screenshots with VLC player, so I had to wait and redownload 13 in avi so I could use windows media player. Below are two pictures a couple seconds apart, when the "camera" is panning down Shirley's body.

In regards to the going ahead and clearing any obstacles, I believe that Orange and Lelouch probably went opposite ways, or went ahead with the train to watch for threats, since Lelouch doesn't really need a personal guard while he's just Lelouch. As stated by others, there also isn't much of a reason for Orange to kill Shirley, and the fact that Rollo disapeared is kind of suspicious in itself. Also as stated before, Orange wouldn't have put the gun back in Shirley's hand if he had honestly thought she was a threat to Lelouch, but Rollo knew that if he killed Shirley and Lulu found out.. he would probably be killed. I suppose there could always be twists in the story though.

High Definition images of the wound below.


Theres another angle later on when she's about to die that shows it even better, I'll post it if you'd like.
It's at around 21:56 on the version I was watching.


Edit: By the way, my first post wasn't like.. aggressively targeted at you or anything, I just quoted you because it was a sort of reply to the entire discussion of who killed her.



whoa.. u noticed the little hole??? i can hardly see it since she's drenched with blood. i just follow my 'instinct' that she was shot by a gun & i'm 80% sure rollo was the one who shot her. do u need reasons to prove that??? i don't think we need more since we know that rollo's jealous of everyone who tries to get close to lulu.. remember epi 12(cupid's day)?? =_=



It looked like Rolo wanted Lulu's hat at the end XD
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Miyaviya wrote:


tasha-chan wrote:


Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:


Soratrox wrote:


Miyaviya wrote:

It wasn't blood, it was sakuradite. Yeah, I was thinking about that with Rolo, but remember, Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them


Observe the following.


Theres no slash, thats the blood running from the wound.
Lelouch is running from where Orange-kun just was, theres no way he could have passed lelouch, and killer Shirley. I could always be wrong, but I find it quite obvious that Rollo killed her.


I repeat,"Lulu said that Orange went ahead and if there were any obstacles, Orange would take care of them”
I also thought it was obvious, but when I saw Shirley still holding the gun when she was on the floor, I had second thoughts.. And it was kind of hard for me to see the hole


Sorry about the bad quality, I had trouble taking screenshots with VLC player, so I had to wait and redownload 13 in avi so I could use windows media player. Below are two pictures a couple seconds apart, when the "camera" is panning down Shirley's body.

In regards to the going ahead and clearing any obstacles, I believe that Orange and Lelouch probably went opposite ways, or went ahead with the train to watch for threats, since Lelouch doesn't really need a personal guard while he's just Lelouch. As stated by others, there also isn't much of a reason for Orange to kill Shirley, and the fact that Rollo disapeared is kind of suspicious in itself. Also as stated before, Orange wouldn't have put the gun back in Shirley's hand if he had honestly thought she was a threat to Lelouch, but Rollo knew that if he killed Shirley and Lulu found out.. he would probably be killed. I suppose there could always be twists in the story though.

High Definition images of the wound below.


Theres another angle later on when she's about to die that shows it even better, I'll post it if you'd like.
It's at around 21:56 on the version I was watching.


Edit: By the way, my first post wasn't like.. aggressively targeted at you or anything, I just quoted you because it was a sort of reply to the entire discussion of who killed her.



whoa.. u noticed the little hole??? i can hardly see it since she's drenched with blood. i just follow my 'instinct' that she was shot by a gun & i'm 80% sure rollo was the one who shot her. do u need reasons to prove that??? i don't think we need more since we know that rollo's jealous of everyone who tries to get close to lulu.. remember epi 12(cupid's day)?? =_=



It looked like Rolo wanted Lulu's hat at the end XD


LOL.. yea.. i was thinking exactly the same thing while i was watching that episode. i wonder what will happen if rollo knows that lelouch's only USING him. hahahahaha.

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