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Gardasil vaccinations - skull & crossbones
Posted 7/16/08 , edited 7/16/08
let's follow the twisted logic of the gardasil vaccination justifications;
a - gardasil can cause flare-ups in those who already have HPV, most cases of which show no symptoms and go away on their own.
b - young teen girls 'might' be sexually active (with people who have had multiple partners, no less), and therefore should receive the vaccine whether they want to be vaccinated or not.
(this implies that they are absolutely certain a large number of them are).
c - older women are 'presumed' to be sexually active in such numbers (with multiple partners) that it would be dangerous for them because of the possibility of interactive flare-ups 'caused' by the vaccine.
d - 'b' above implies that there are large numbers of young teen girls who 'are' sexually active, in which case 'c' applies.
however;
e - knowing it could cause deaths and flare-ups, they are going to vaccinate them all anyway???
f - this also insults the personal integrity of those who are not 'active' at all.
Posted 7/16/08 , edited 7/16/08
there is every indication that many of those who died or became seriously ill were never 'active' at all.
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Posted 7/16/08
thats rly sad...
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Posted 7/16/08
I think you guys are being unfair to the guys pushing Gardasil and what they're trying to do. Gardasil fights HPV, a sexually transmitted infection. But how does it get around in the first place? If people don't sleep around so much, this vaccine wouldn't even be necessary. Ok, so we don't know for sure that so many people have multiple sex partners, but just looking at how many ppl are infected with STIs is proof enough.

So far i think the death count associated (not "caused") with gardasil is like 11 or so? Compare this to the 3700 odd women who die per year in the US because of cervical cancer. (HPV causes about 90% of cervical cancer cases)

im not trying to start an argument w/ crunchyrollnut, but it really does seem that he's being far too biased about this, and branding Gardasil "evil" and "abominable" without presenting facts for both sides of the issue. The truth is, the vast majority of women report no side effects, or side effects that are common to any vaccination. If you guys are actually interested in this topic, you should go read up about it, and not believe wild and unproven conspiracy theories about government corruption and Merck's corporate agendas.
Posted 7/16/08 , edited 7/16/08
^ seriously disagree.

read about it'? what do you think i have just given as links to articles and vids on this?

the govt. slang for those who die innocently or otherwise become 'statistics' is known as the 'breakage rate', or simply 'breakage'.

perhaps this should be known as the 'six step' vaccine. as in 'take six steps' and keel over foaming at the mouth.
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Posted 7/16/08
interesting... I've always been an avid believer of the whole medical conspiracy. The notion that most diseases have indeed been cured (and some treatments were never intended as a cure) but the real cures aren’t being released due to the financial hit the pharmaceutical companies would take. Technology is too good nowadays and I cant believe that they aren’t cured.

They say there was a case in Sweden where they were testing a new cancer treatment. Suffice it to say that it had a very promising cure rate. It has yet to be released to the public.
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Posted 7/16/08
hmm, i already finished my vaccines and my other friends who got it seem alright...
maybe there's a reaction for certain people..
Posted 7/23/08 , edited 7/23/08
pathogennesis wrote:

I think you guys are being unfair to the guys pushing Gardasil and what they're trying to do. Gardasil fights HPV, a sexually transmitted infection. But how does it get around in the first place? If people don't sleep around so much, this vaccine wouldn't even be necessary. Ok, so we don't know for sure that so many people have multiple sex partners, but just looking at how many ppl are infected with STIs is proof enough.

So far i think the death count associated (not "caused") with gardasil is like 11 or so? Compare this to the 3700 odd women who die per year in the US because of cervical cancer. (HPV causes about 90% of cervical cancer cases)

im not trying to start an argument w/ crunchyrollnut, but it really does seem that he's being far too biased about this, and branding Gardasil "evil" and "abominable" without presenting facts for both sides of the issue. The truth is, the vast majority of women report no side effects, or side effects that are common to any vaccination. If you guys are actually interested in this topic, you should go read up about it, and not believe wild and unproven conspiracy theories about government corruption and Merck's corporate agendas.

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with FDA collusion, BAYER knowingly sold AIDS-tainted hemophiliac medicine for children to be unwittingly used on little kids in Japan and other foreign nations;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3mhjt7TrY&search=Bayer



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Posted 7/23/08
tl;dr anyone?
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Posted 7/23/08
Gardisil commercials are hilarious
Posted 7/23/08
How so very odd .
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Posted 7/24/08

crunchyrollnut wrote:

with FDA collusion, BAYER knowingly sold AIDS-tainted hemophiliac medicine for children to be unwittingly used on little kids in Japan and other foreign nations;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3mhjt7TrY&search=Bayer



?? what? this may be true, but i don't see where you're going with this.
Bayer doesn't manufacture Gardasil, Merck does. They're completely different companies.
Posted 7/24/08 , edited 7/24/08
^

the point is, the FDA is not looking out for the safety of the children it knowingly allowed Bayer to infect with AIDS-tainted hemophiliac medicine, and neither is Bayer.

in the same way, the FDA is not looking out for the safety of the teen girls in the USA who are being forced to accept Gardasil vaccinations which Merck knows are not safe for them.

we have a pattern here of profit-seeking Bayer and Merck unethically influencing the FDA to use heavy-handed tactics to deceive and pressure and even mandate with evil laws that people should be victimized by forcing them to accept death at the point of a needle, all in the falsely proclaimed charitable intentions of the pharmaceutical manufacturers and the government agency, the FDA, created for protection of the common public good.

the pharmaceutical manufacturers spend more on their advertising budget than they do on their research budget.

i have already refuted your claims of 'wild and unproven conspiracy theories about government corruption and Merck's corporate agendas' with the youtube link given above. the fact of government corruption is now proven and undisputed beyond all possibility of doubt or mistaken assumption. it applies to the FDA, Bayer, and Merck. it is a consistent pattern.

Bayer and Merck are not 'completely different companies', in that they are both pharmaceutical giants for whom the betterment of the common public welfare is a sick joke.
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Posted 7/24/08
This is some f*cked up vaccine.. totally unneeded IMO. I googled it and saw that its a vaccine for HPV.

HPV or human papillomavirus, from what i know of is sexually transmitted...so whats up with that? People who are succesfully vaccinated, will only feel secure. > Which is horribly scary since there are a lot more STD's than just HPV.

The risks, as presented by the events, do not outweigh the benefits.
Posted 7/24/08
...another population control strategy? hmm...
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