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I vote for Gilgamesh from Fate/Stay Night with Emmi-Elissh
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tadakatsu hondas tombo giri
it was a spear that was said to have cut a drangonfly in half when it landed on it
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shinjilovesasuka wrote:

tadakatsu hondas tombo giri
it was a spear that was said to have cut a drangonfly in half when it landed on it


tat must be some sharp blade
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the guy from lupin III,


Ishikawa Goemon XIII
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the guy from lupin III,


Ishikawa Goemon XIII


OOO i forgot all about him, but your right, his sword iz pretty strong... it can cut though anything
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desfines07 wrote:


coldnhot369 wrote:

the guy from lupin III,


Ishikawa Goemon XIII


OOO i forgot all about him, but your right, his sword iz pretty strong... it can cut though anything


yeah i remeber him he's sword is pretty strong
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wha hahahaha i win? lol
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inuyasha
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Zero's sword is pretty nice. Although it kind of looks like a light saber...


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A blade is a useless tool when not in the hands of a skilled practitioner.
Therefore the strength of the blade is irrelevant aside from metallurgical necessities so that the blade will not break easier and it can cut effectively.
Aside from this, the blade is only as strong as the wielder's skill.

Most of these anime guys like Inuyasha, Cloud, and the like just swing ridiculous sized swords [which would not be effective even if they could be lifted so easily] like a baseball bat like some idiot who has never been taught how to even hold a sword properly.

The buster sword and the tetsusaiga would have no real potency in a fight.
Why? Because first and foremost there is no defining techniques they use. Swinging something around like that leaves them invariably open and would not be capable of being swung like they swung it regardless of the wielder's strength as physics and gravity come into play. It's unreality borders complete nonsense in that it defies all physics or logic and thus I can say correctly, both as a literary student and writer, and a martial artist with 18 years experience and stage combat choreography under my belt, that it is completely and utterly useless.

Yes I know it's anime. However a good anime, like any good piece of fantasy work, takes reference [example: a sword] from realism and therefore logically to utilize these references, realism must be implemented into the use of these references for it to be valid.


For example. Take the lightsaber. A perfect example of a fantasy weapon in the archetype of a sword.
In storytelling, everything must have some sort of reason for the way it exists or else such plot devices will fail.

The lightsaber's techniques were inspired by kendo, fencing, and escrima.
Kendo and fencing for the combative principles and many movements.
Escrima was used because the major distinctive aspect that sets a lightsaber apart is that it has no counter weight. It's just a hilt in which some sort of energy [which is weightless] and so escrima [which uses sticks only slightly longer than the hilt of a sword or lightsaber in this case] was used as to explain the connection and fill the gap between the use and it's problem. So if someone asks "How the hell does a lightsaber work? Wouldn't spinning around and crap like that just get them cut" then all bases are covered and there are logical explanations that can be answered.

So even in fantasy if someone were to ignore all of this, it would be complete nonsense.
Which is why truly great works of fantasy do not ignore this logic and surpass all the thoughtless ignorant crap floating around.


On another note; as for a sword being able to cut stone or metal like you see on an anime, this is another great flaw.
You see, if someone really wanted to have their anime taken seriously [which more of the intellectual "seinen" show this and the "shonen" or "Little Boy Anime" like DBZ, Inuyasha, and the like don't probably because they know kids probably won't care either way] they would implement a reason as to why something has the ability to do such fantastic things. In this case the answer would lie in the materials.

For a brief introduction to metallurgy; A sword is made of steel [A real sword that is. Not one of those crappy 440 stainless steel wallhangers that you can buy for less than 500 bucks] and steel is a compound of refined iron and carbon. Now the carbon does a certain thing. The more carbon in a sword the more flexible that sword becomes.

If there is too much carbon, it is too flexible. It is harder to break but it loses much strength and cutting/penetration power.
If there is not enough carbon, it is too rigid. It is much stronger yet any blade-on blade contact will result in it shattering very easily.

This is the reason that this entire topic is pretty pointless as a sword that is strong in one way is weak in another.
The katana is NEVER used in swashbuckling [repeated blade-on-blade contact like parrying and blocking and locks] as it would break easily. When there is blade on blade contact [which I have only encountered only two techniques for this in my experiences] the edge [as usually incorrectly portrayed in anime] is never in contact but rather the side of the blade. Edge-on-Edge would chip the blade indefinitely which is the last nail in the coffin for whoever made such a incredibly stupid mistake.

So cutting such hard materials like metal and rock is virtually impossible with any metallic sword no matter the material since if it had enough strength to actually cut such a thing it would indefinitely break. If it had enough durability to withstand such a strike without breaking, it would indefinitely hold no such cutting quality to actually penetrate the material.


Furthermore I might mention my objections with the gunblade.

It would be grossly ineffective for either function.
Why?

1. Gun: The weight of the sword will render the gun incredibly inaccurate.
2. Sword: The handle would render the versatility of techniques completely incompetent in which fighting with it as a sword would be pointless.

Hence why the pinfire sword [a real gun-blade] was a great failure. The pinfire was still more effective in design than the gunblade.


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Posted 8/14/08 , edited 8/14/08

lil-ro-z wrote:

Zero's sword is pretty nice. Although it kind of looks like a light saber...




zero never thought about him... and i would say thats a blade. a light saber iz like a long light bolb lol
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No replies to my post? I spent quite a long time on that!
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No replies to my post? I spent quite a long time on that!


oopps my bad didn't see it
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A blade is a useless tool when not in the hands of a skilled practitioner.
Therefore the strength of the blade is irrelevant aside from metallurgical necessities so that the blade will not break easier and it can cut effectively.
Aside from this, the blade is only as strong as the wielder's skill.

Most of these anime guys like Inuyasha, Cloud, and the like just swing ridiculous sized swords [which would not be effective even if they could be lifted so easily] like a baseball bat like some idiot who has never been taught how to even hold a sword properly.

The buster sword and the tetsusaiga would have no real potency in a fight.
Why? Because first and foremost there is no defining techniques they use. Swinging something around like that leaves them invariably open and would not be capable of being swung like they swung it regardless of the wielder's strength as physics and gravity come into play. It's unreality borders complete nonsense in that it defies all physics or logic and thus I can say correctly, both as a literary student and writer, and a martial artist with 18 years experience and stage combat choreography under my belt, that it is completely and utterly useless.

Yes I know it's anime. However a good anime, like any good piece of fantasy work, takes reference [example: a sword] from realism and therefore logically to utilize these references, realism must be implemented into the use of these references for it to be valid.


For example. Take the lightsaber. A perfect example of a fantasy weapon in the archetype of a sword.
In storytelling, everything must have some sort of reason for the way it exists or else such plot devices will fail.

The lightsaber's techniques were inspired by kendo, fencing, and escrima.
Kendo and fencing for the combative principles and many movements.
Escrima was used because the major distinctive aspect that sets a lightsaber apart is that it has no counter weight. It's just a hilt in which some sort of energy [which is weightless] and so escrima [which uses sticks only slightly longer than the hilt of a sword or lightsaber in this case] was used as to explain the connection and fill the gap between the use and it's problem. So if someone asks "How the hell does a lightsaber work? Wouldn't spinning around and crap like that just get them cut" then all bases are covered and there are logical explanations that can be answered.

So even in fantasy if someone were to ignore all of this, it would be complete nonsense.
Which is why truly great works of fantasy do not ignore this logic and surpass all the thoughtless ignorant crap floating around.


On another note; as for a sword being able to cut stone or metal like you see on an anime, this is another great flaw.
You see, if someone really wanted to have their anime taken seriously [which more of the intellectual "seinen" show this and the "shonen" or "Little Boy Anime" like DBZ, Inuyasha, and the like don't probably because they know kids probably won't care either way] they would implement a reason as to why something has the ability to do such fantastic things. In this case the answer would lie in the materials.

For a brief introduction to metallurgy; A sword is made of steel [A real sword that is. Not one of those crappy 440 stainless steel wallhangers that you can buy for less than 500 bucks] and steel is a compound of refined iron and carbon. Now the carbon does a certain thing. The more carbon in a sword the more flexible that sword becomes.

If there is too much carbon, it is too flexible. It is harder to break but it loses much strength and cutting/penetration power.
If there is not enough carbon, it is too rigid. It is much stronger yet any blade-on blade contact will result in it shattering very easily.

This is the reason that this entire topic is pretty pointless as a sword that is strong in one way is weak in another.
The katana is NEVER used in swashbuckling [repeated blade-on-blade contact like parrying and blocking and locks] as it would break easily. When there is blade on blade contact [which I have only encountered only two techniques for this in my experiences] the edge [as usually incorrectly portrayed in anime] is never in contact but rather the side of the blade. Edge-on-Edge would chip the blade indefinitely which is the last nail in the coffin for whoever made such a incredibly stupid mistake.

So cutting such hard materials like metal and rock is virtually impossible with any metallic sword no matter the material since if it had enough strength to actually cut such a thing it would indefinitely break. If it had enough durability to withstand such a strike without breaking, it would indefinitely hold no such cutting quality to actually penetrate the material.


Furthermore I might mention my objections with the gunblade.

It would be grossly ineffective for either function.
Why?

1. Gun: The weight of the sword will render the gun incredibly inaccurate.
2. Sword: The handle would render the versatility of techniques completely incompetent in which fighting with it as a sword would be pointless.

Hence why the pinfire sword [a real gun-blade] was a great failure. The pinfire was still more effective in design than the gunblade.




true. i think the reason unrealistic anime swordsmen swing their blades like bats, because their blades have its own abilities, inuyasha's blade can transfrom and stuff, so who needs skill if your blade its self can shake the earth, transfrom, blast beems, and etc... i think lightsabars are stupid, i dont even unstand it i thought u can't see energy.. so how can u turn it into a sword like weapon?.. WAT ! u can't cut metal ? with a blade ? i thought a blade couldn't cut through only, iron, rock and other hard materials lol O well... i like fantasy and realistic, i see the nonsense in fantasty and realistic gets boring somtimes
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Posted 8/15/08 , edited 8/15/08

desfines07 wrote:


lil-ro-z wrote:

Zero's sword is pretty nice. Although it kind of looks like a light saber...




zero never thought about him... and i would say thats a blade. a light saber iz like a long light bolb lol


When you play Zero's character it kind of looks like one..I take it back Zero's weapon is not good as Nightmare's Soul Edge.
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lil-ro-z wrote:


desfines07 wrote:


lil-ro-z wrote:

Zero's sword is pretty nice. Although it kind of looks like a light saber...




zero never thought about him... and i would say thats a blade. a light saber iz like a long light bolb lol


When you play Zero's character it kind of looks like one..I take it back Zero's weapon is not good as Nightmare's Soul Edge.


nightmare's edge ? your talkin about soul calibur right ?
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