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Gundam = Future
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Posted 7/25/08 , edited 7/25/08

maxxus0923 wrote:


haotehmao wrote:


maxxus0923 wrote:


haotehmao wrote:

Macross mechas are more impossible than Gundams to be honest. Transformations between the 3 modes is much harder than making a bipedal Gundam (keep in mind I mean the RX-78-2 types, no Funnel system, no wings, no high powered buster rifles). Making tactical mechs like the Ishtar Mk-II and the Raiden from Gasaraki are more closer to reality because it is much more battle efficient and less costly. Better speed, smaller size, lighter weight, more choice in artillery, .etc.


what anime is garasaki?


Gasaraki is a mecha/psychological anime from the 1990s.


where can i watch that?


Online, no idea. I have the CD collection that I bought when it first came out.



FyreCracker wrote:

If any of you have read the manga Red Eyes the mecha suit in that is alot more probably of what we would have in the future than something like a Gundam. Doesnt stop me from hopeing tho


Red Eyes is awesome. Lars is awesome.
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if it was really possible to make such weapon, it will take relatively a really long time for now. the world is pretty much in peace except for a few conflict. No one in their right mind would buil something of this caliber. Just the cost and size and how long they going to put into this project would make it almost impossible.
If anything i think that if they are going to make anything close to a gundam it would be something like ironman, the one where he makes while stuck in the cave. That is much more realistic.
Posted 7/25/08

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Robots or mobile suits for that matter were meant to have super advanced technology that would somehow mirror the future. And as for it being feasible, only time would tell. Although I firmly believe that seeing things such as Gundams isn't too far off in the near future.


Sorry but no, it is not feasible.

The human bipedal form is too inefficient to ever be engineered into a war machine. Not only would they be monstrously energy inefficient, they would also be combat inefficient. Super advanced technology or no, no engineer in his right mind will do it because it doesn't make sense.

Even out of the primates of comparable size and often lesser weight in the animal kingdom, humans are on the far weak end. Other primate species that often squat on hind legs will use their other limbs for locomotion. Four stabilizers are simply much better than two.

They would also have to account for human error. Have you ever wondered how traffic jams happen? It doesn't have to be a pile up or a major accident. Small minor shit like someone slamming the brakes, or driving a little too slowly, or swerving half into a lane and then swerving back will all add up to congestion on a freeway, especially if hundreds or thousands are all doing it at relatively the same span of time(meaning approximately within the same hour).

Computers actually do have better precision, speed and accuracy. At the very least when human intelligence is required, the human element will likely be relegated to remote control simply because it reduces on site stress error. If they ever make Gundam-ish machines, you can bet people won't be manning it, and it is unlikely it will be fighting anything.

Gundam is honestly a fictional thing that will never likely come to pass simply because it will be too expensive to be considered seriously, or if it does it will merely be a gimmick of technology. From a purely engineering perspective, it is not feasible. From a physics perspective, it is not feasible. From a mechanical perspective, it is not feasible. It has very little to do with how advanced our technology becomes because the natural laws of our universe simply does not support it as well as other forms. It can probably be done, but it will never become what it currently stands for in anime.


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soku91 wrote:

terroist + gundams=


pie?

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no but gundam series changes. at first it used gundium or someshit aloid(sp?)
then it turn to metal
then other crazy things
if it where more consistant than maybe
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well wht I think is maybe its possible.. there`s no impossible anyway.. but first, fot that to happen, I think people should discover outer space first.. what I mean by that is, there`s no point of making something like gundam in earth.. its no use.. I think. so maybe mars should be someplace human can live so our technology people will develop more new things well somehow I agree witht he person who said the human model its not useful.. but I`m hoping they will make some invention that will bring us outside earth
Posted 7/25/08 , edited 7/25/08
several parts of a humanoid machine are flawed,but can be fixed. such as putting wheels or treads on instead of legs,boosters or jets of any kind. gundams would have to be smaller so it could be even remotely fuel efficient and less heavily armed as most of those kinds of things are either impossible or to hard to get. the closest we could probably get too would be a roughly tank-sized vaguely humanoid machine with treads and a machine gun or rocket launcher attached to it. and still,its possible to create something like that,but a tank or armored car or other war machines like that could do the same job but would be a lot more economical.However,science always advances so whos to say that in 2 or 3 decades we havent created a new way to make these kinds of things possible, but then again if we have the technology to do this we'd have computers pilot them and if humans are even used then we'd coordinate where it goes and what it does, but from a safe distance... say 2 continents away.But maybe we could create some small mech. suit for humans to wear while colonizing space or other inhospitable environments,something that basically is just an updated space suit. but of course,i'm just a guy with an opinion and little to no actual data to support my beliefs
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Look here please http://www.gizmag.com/go/2537/ its an old article but it gives a good idea of where we are at (publicly) in the tech field.

And on anouther note, the US military had several bipedial modules similar to this, capeable of walking and lifting, though it had a land line power conection. But it was caned due to "accidents".

So by about 2015 youll see many forms of assitant suits in work around the world. Then someone will get the idea to put a gun on one, and then you will see large scale mecha begin to be developed.
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kingfish00 wrote:

i think Ghost In The Shell would be a more realist future then gundam


I agree with this post...in a way. Ghost In the Shell is one of those anime(s) that bring the concept of humans fusing with technology on the table. How about the movie THE MATRIX? I can imagine that if technology does become exceedingly advanced in the very, very distant future, technology will most likely dominate the human race, a time when humans are actually not that active. Using Gundams, on the other hand...I do not think its possible. Well, if technology reaches an ultra advanced state, yes. Like what other people said, the human technology isn't that advanced yet. With the laws of physics, I believe Gundams would be ultra slow, if equipped with weapons, let alone with their colossal size. Also, the basic thing: money. Gundams will definitely cost too much money. With Gundam 00, I do not know how the living hell Celestial Being managed to get away with it with the WHOLE world not knowing. And plus, why would Gundams be needed if the world already witnessed the devastation of the atomic bomb???

...DRAGOONS manipulated by the human mind in a giant robot?!?!?! Now THAT is crazy.


DRAGOON system uses computer AI. Funnel systems use human brainwaves.
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Posted 7/25/08
It might not be impossible,but first we should be able to live in space,then maybe we could make gundamwie
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it would be hot but really not much point to it dun get me wrong i love gundam more than anybody but it could never be realistic dat the world built such machines.but of coarse if i had one i would go crazy wit it baby
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gundams being created in the future would be awsome!
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fenrir wrote:


kingfish00 wrote:

i think Ghost In The Shell would be a more realist future then gundam


I agree with this post...in a way. Ghost In the Shell is one of those anime(s) that bring the concept of humans fusing with technology on the table. How about the movie THE MATRIX? I can imagine that if technology does become exceedingly advanced in the very, very distant future, technology will most likely dominate the human race, a time when humans are actually not that active. Using Gundams, on the other hand...I do not think its possible. Well, if technology reaches an ultra advanced state, yes. Like what other people said, the human technology isn't that advanced yet. With the laws of physics, I believe Gundams would be ultra slow, if equipped with weapons, let alone with their colossal size. Also, the basic thing: money. Gundams will definitely cost too much money. With Gundam 00, I do not know how the living hell Celestial Being managed to get away with it with the WHOLE world not knowing. And plus, why would Gundams be needed if the world already witnessed the devastation of the atomic bomb???

...DRAGOONS manipulated by the human mind in a giant robot?!?!?! Now THAT is crazy.


ya the matrix is a good example it makes you think it made me think what if where living in it right now
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Posted 7/26/08 , edited 7/26/08

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valnavatthe1st wrote:

Go ask Tomino himself or read the original Mobile Suit Gundam novel.

Painting your Gundam grey makes it more efficient.


But painting it red makes it go three times faster, right?



I know, Char is always three times more awesome than me.

But if you read that part of the novel where he fights the G-3 piloted by Amuro, he was quite impressed at the psychological effect made just by giving the Gundam a gray paint job.
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ned_2007 wrote:

i love Gundam but cheap IEDs could easily cripple mobile suits.

They might be more useful in space but not in Earth.


This brings to mind: the Zeong might be feasible if that was the case.


ned_2007 wrote:

i love Gundam but cheap IEDs could easily cripple mobile suits.



Watch Zambot 3. During the second half of the series....



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you
should
sleep
and
freez
your
body
on
the
moon
like
what
the
old man did on Gundam 00... lol
then
wake
up in the future
and find out for yourself...

if you wake up and still, no gundam,, you sleep again...
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