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Posted 7/11/08 , edited 7/11/08
I was just wondering. In episode 4 Lelouch deduced that Rolo's Geass doesn't stop time, but the awareness of time of all people around him. This only makes sense up to a certain limit. Yes, the Geass can't stop time because either everyone would be still, including Rolo, or Rolo would die once he activates Geass (World stops, Rolo doesn't, Rolo can't get air because forces are suspended, Rolo's body can't function because forces are suspended, Rolo dies once Geass wears off). But yet at the same time it does more than just stop a person's awareness of time because everybody physically stops.

If Rolo's Geass only stopped a person's awareness of time, then physically a person should still be able to move. Let's take episode 12, Love Attack, for example. Rolo activates time stop Geass on the whole fucking world (jk just Ashford). Originally, all of the girls chasing after Lelouch stopped still . If the Geass only stopped time awareness, then all of the girls should have ''thoughtlessly'' ran into Rolo and Lelouch as they were getting themselves into the locker; because the brain would have still been sending messages for the body to run. The only thing the brain no longer knows is when to stop, so they would just run until there's a physical limitation from keeping them from doing so. Therefore, if Rolo's Geass really was a time-awareness-removal Geass, Kallen should be dead because from episode 2, Kallen's hand would still be on the trigger of the Guren making it go foward, causing the Guren to Landspinner itself right out of the Babel Tower and then fall into Calares' troops, effectively exploding and killing Kallen. Which means Rolo would have killed Lelouch before C.C. got the bombs ready and then Lelouch would have died.

Therefore, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 actually ended at episode 2, and all the episodes beyond it are lies. Shirley is therefore still alive. So now Rolo must die not for killing Shirley but for killing Lelouch.
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holy sh*t, that is one good point
i think that mabye rollo's geass not only stops people's awarness of time but also stops there sense of physical movement, so the brain would think it's moving when it's not
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hsadman wrote:

holy sh*t, that is one good point
i think that mabye rollo's geass not only stops people's awarness of time but also stops there sense of physical movement, so the brain would think it's moving when it's not


Is there even a sense of physical movement? I don't think so, but if there is tell me where I can get some info about it. There is actually a sense of time awareness except I forget the term for it. The closest thing I know for physical awareness is touch. If Rolo's Geass can trick the brain into thinking that it's moving wouldn't that cause the brain to send messages to the body and making the body move? Therefore causing people to go into uncontrollable durations of movement because they no longer know when to stop?
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hsadman wrote:

holy sh*t, that is one good point
i think that mabye rollo's geass not only stops people's awarness of time but also stops there sense of physical movement, so the brain would think it's moving when it's not


Is there even a sense of physical movement? I don't think so, but if there is tell me where I can get some info about it. There is actually a sense of time awareness except I forget the term for it. The closest thing I know for physical awareness is touch. If Rolo's Geass can trick the brain into thinking that it's moving wouldn't that cause the brain to send messages to the body and making the body move? Therefore causing people to go into uncontrollable durations of movement because they no longer know when to stop?


damn geass is complicated
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hsadman wrote:


loltan wrote:


hsadman wrote:

holy sh*t, that is one good point
i think that mabye rollo's geass not only stops people's awarness of time but also stops there sense of physical movement, so the brain would think it's moving when it's not


Is there even a sense of physical movement? I don't think so, but if there is tell me where I can get some info about it. There is actually a sense of time awareness except I forget the term for it. The closest thing I know for physical awareness is touch. If Rolo's Geass can trick the brain into thinking that it's moving wouldn't that cause the brain to send messages to the body and making the body move? Therefore causing people to go into uncontrollable durations of movement because they no longer know when to stop?


damn geass is complicated


Actually it's easy, Rolo's Geass hacks the world and then by using a mental power level of over 9000 the power expands into a sphereical domefield and anything within a radius's distance inside the dome will experience the sensations of dividing by zero.
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How about stopping nerve impulses, suddenly paralyzing the body?

Then resume? It's just like plugging and unplugging something from its power source...
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How about stopping nerve impulses, suddenly paralyzing the body?

Then resume? It's just like plugging and unplugging something from its power source...


Can't that be fatal because you stop the entire body at once?
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loltan wrote:


paolo9876 wrote:

How about stopping nerve impulses, suddenly paralyzing the body?

Then resume? It's just like plugging and unplugging something from its power source...


Can't that be fatal because you stop the entire body at once?


that would also cause paralysis, so they would stay paralyzed, unless the geass somehow stopped paralyzes after it ends, also people would still be conscious if their paralyzed
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hsadman wrote:


loltan wrote:


paolo9876 wrote:

How about stopping nerve impulses, suddenly paralyzing the body?

Then resume? It's just like plugging and unplugging something from its power source...


Can't that be fatal because you stop the entire body at once?


that would also cause paralysis, so they would stay paralyzed, unless the geass somehow stopped paralyzes after it ends, also people would still be conscious if their paralyzed



Nobody will have an answer to Rolo's uber impossible geass... GO GeT STEPHEN HAWKING!!

He was geassed and stayed that way
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More fucked up shit guys.

In Turn 19, Rolo uses his Geass on the Akatsukis and they fall.

WTF? The fingers of the pilots should still be on the controls. They should all just still be flying in the same direction!
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loltan wrote:

More fucked up shit guys.

In Turn 19, Rolo uses his Geass on the Akatsukis and they fall.

WTF? The fingers of the pilots should still be on the controls. They should all just still be flying in the same direction!


Yep? But in the School freeze? Didn't they all froze solid?

But the Akatsuki's fell, so probably the control thingy? got disabled? (It AFFECTS MACHINES?!)..
Theory - Akatsuki doesn't have an easy control similar to what you would on a simple racing game...
Example :
NFS series - W is forward S is backward... now hold them and your car would accelerate and such...

So it would probably require more user input thus... they fell...
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paolo9876 wrote:


loltan wrote:

More fucked up shit guys.

In Turn 19, Rolo uses his Geass on the Akatsukis and they fall.

WTF? The fingers of the pilots should still be on the controls. They should all just still be flying in the same direction!


Yep? But in the School freeze? Didn't they all froze solid?

But the Akatsuki's fell, so probably the control thingy? got disabled? (It AFFECTS MACHINES?!)..
Theory - Akatsuki doesn't have an easy control similar to what you would on a simple racing game...
Example :
NFS series - W is forward S is backward... now hold them and your car would accelerate and such...

So it would probably require more user input thus... they fell...


Well, looking at the Guren (which is supposed to be the most complex Knightmare there is), the controls are still simple. Push button, kill enemy. I don't think the Akatsukis should require a lot more.
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