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Posted 3/1/07
It probably was on [Adult Swim].
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Posted 3/1/07
rigged, all rigged
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Posted 3/2/07
well from everything else i read up on that thing. Everyone is upset the animes in the american awards are not really american anime.
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Posted 4/8/07
i disagreed with the animes that they had up there in the first place cuz they missed alot of better ones. And full metal alchemist shouldve won so many times over other animes. an definately not fullmetal alchemist for best cast
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Posted 4/8/07
America and anime should never be in the same sentence.
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Posted 4/8/07
wtf!. the american anime awards are missing out on all the other great animes the ones not dubbed.
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Posted 4/8/07
so whatever fucknut did that list was just a FMA/FLCL fanboy.

and zatch bell? wtf? maybe it has some brilliant dub or something, but that show looked like total and complete fail to me. that show is proof that just because it's popular in japan doesn't mean american audiences will like it.
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they said at the end of the award show on the red carpet that 10 animes were nominated by different companies, then fans voted and narrowed it down to 5, and then the "industry professionals" voted on the five to decide the winner.

They even had one of the new pokemon movies in the running for Best Anime Feature(Movie).I just realized how redundant the title "American Anime Award" is. There animes because theyre not american, and putting english voices over someone elses work then giving out awards like its their stuff kinda pisses me off.
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What they mean by American is that it was a Japanese anime award show voted on by Americans with nominees from anime released in the American market. Sheesh people, get over yourselves !

To me this just shows how far behind America is in terms of its anime subculture (I'm referring to foreign countries where Japanese anime is exported to). People think anime has gotten more popular here, but only the fans going to conventions and manga sales have increased. The quantity and diversity of quality titles the fanbase has latched onto (and actually supported with their dollars) is embarrasing.

Oh, and by the way, the fact that "FFVII: AC" won that award for best movie makes my stomach turn.
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Thank god someone else feels the same way I do on this site. Most overrated anime of the year is more like it.
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firecrouch wrote:

What they mean by American is that it was a Japanese anime award show voted on by Americans with nominees from anime released in the American market. Sheesh people, get over yourselves !

To me this just shows how far behind America is in terms of its anime subculture (I'm referring to foreign countries where Japanese anime is exported to). People think anime has gotten more popular here, but only the fans going to conventions and manga sales have increased. The quantity and diversity of quality titles the fanbase has latched onto (and actually supported with their dollars) is embarrasing.

Oh, and by the way, the fact that "FFVII: AC" won that award for best movie makes my stomach turn.


Well, it depends which fanculture you're looking at. There are several anime fancultures in the US, though they are all related. Anime is very expensive to license and localize, so companies have to be picky with what they choose. And now a days, there is no gurantee even if it is popular that it will sell. Hardcore fans have always been capable of completely bypassing the US middlemen all together, and now even the casual fans are too. So don't judge the US anime culture by what they're trying to sell to us since the fans are often watching something totally different. Most fans don't financially support anything anymore. It's also difficult to judge the size of the US fandom. I think anime fans are just very vocal and visible compared to other fans so they stick out more. From what I understand, anime in the grand scheme of things in the US really isn't all that popular. It just has a small dedicated following that can just barely keep it supported financially.

Really, the fans that are supporting the anime industry are the casual fans who really aren't aware of fansubs and all that jazz. They're limited in what they're exposed to, so even if they do see a quality anime on the shelf of suncoast, they're still going to opt for the FMA or Naruto instead since that's what they know. Fans who are aware of all the good stuff rarely - if ever - buy their anime (let alone watch cartoon network).

And that "awards show" just sounds like one big commericial.
Posted 4/8/07
All of the anime you mention are all Japanaese. American anime cannot compete with Japanese. To put it simply....IT SUCKSS
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"Ren & Stimpy" is a lot more entertaining than most of the Japanese anime I've seen. And that's only one American cartoon.

People, I've said it before and I'll say it again: great art doesn't come from certain cultures, it comes from certain individuals.
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firecrouch wrote:

"Ren & Stimpy" is a lot more entertaining than most of the Japanese anime I've seen. And that's only one American cartoon.

People, I've said it before and I'll say it again: great art doesn't come from certain cultures, it comes from certain individuals.


While I completely disagree with your first statement, I completely agree with your second. In fact, I may just steal that quote for later use...
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azrael910 wrote:


firecrouch wrote:

What they mean by American is that it was a Japanese anime award show voted on by Americans with nominees from anime released in the American market. Sheesh people, get over yourselves !

To me this just shows how far behind America is in terms of its anime subculture (I'm referring to foreign countries where Japanese anime is exported to). People think anime has gotten more popular here, but only the fans going to conventions and manga sales have increased. The quantity and diversity of quality titles the fanbase has latched onto (and actually supported with their dollars) is embarrasing.

Oh, and by the way, the fact that "FFVII: AC" won that award for best movie makes my stomach turn.


Well, it depends which fanculture you're looking at. There are several anime fancultures in the US, though they are all related. Anime is very expensive to license and localize, so companies have to be picky with what they choose. And now a days, there is no gurantee even if it is popular that it will sell. Hardcore fans have always been capable of completely bypassing the US middlemen all together, and now even the casual fans are too. So don't judge the US anime culture by what they're trying to sell to us since the fans are often watching something totally different. Most fans don't financially support anything anymore. It's also difficult to judge the size of the US fandom. I think anime fans are just very vocal and visible compared to other fans so they stick out more. From what I understand, anime in the grand scheme of things in the US really isn't all that popular. It just has a small dedicated following that can just barely keep it supported financially.

Really, the fans that are supporting the anime industry are the casual fans who really aren't aware of fansubs and all that jazz. They're limited in what they're exposed to, so even if they do see a quality anime on the shelf of suncoast, they're still going to opt for the FMA or Naruto instead since that's what they know. Fans who are aware of all the good stuff rarely - if ever - buy their anime (let alone watch cartoon network).

And that "awards show" just sounds like one big commericial.


I know what you're saying. The market hit big in the early 2000s when "Pokemon" and "Dragonball" were in their prime, the market got oversaturated, and now both the customers and companies are more selective. The quantity and diversity of high-quality releases has really declined. I'll be fine with it as long as this leveling-off means the industry and subculture gradually grows and expands in more than one direction healthily, instead of declining or just sitting in place. At this point I can't tell; 2007 looks like too quiet of a year for anime.

And hearing that the hardcore fans don't buy anime makes things sound worse. The anime companies really need to be more aggressive about getting fans to support the industry, and the "hardcore" anime fans who really like their anime should support the people who make it.

I would definitely buy more anime if there was more stuff available that interested me, but right now the only thing I'm buying is "Nerima Daikon Brothers" (I'd buy the "DBZ" re-releases if not for all that "re-mastering" bullshit FUNi pulled, and I'll probably buy the "Slayers" re-releases and "Shin-Chan" when those come out). The stuff I'm mainly interested in is either OOP or never released in America. I don't have a credit card to buy stuff online, and I only have a limited amount of money. The anime Bandai Visual USA has down the pipeline definitely is right up my alley, but those releases look like bullshit too (lack of content, DVDs over 30 bucks, no dub in case I feel like not reading). And "One Piece" still doesn't have a proper release, so that's not an option.

This is kinda depressing. I think I'll contact a FUNirep to get a better picture of things, I just hope that if they contact me they won't whitewash things.
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