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Posted 12/20/07
Japan needs to apologize for teaching their kids that The Rape of Nanjing didn't happen or that the videos and photos of dead bodies and raped women were just made by the Chinese. I mean come one. Germany even said sorry to the Jews for what they did, and the Rape on Nanjing was nearly just as bad yet the Japanese act like it never happened. Or that they were just trying to HELP China.
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Posted 12/20/07
As for japan arming themselves i think you should ask koreans and chinese if they are ready for and armed japan again. Japan did some horrible things while occupying those countries.

EDIT: yea in most european countries Hollocaust Denial is a crime that has serious jail time behind it. I just read the book Night (the story of a survivor of the hollocaust) and i think that everyone should read it at least once in their lives.
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Posted 12/20/07
Japan did not only harm a few countries. But every island in the pacific as well. Guam, Midway, etc. People don't know that they not only killed innocent civilians, but raped them as well. Japan needs to apoligize for what they've done. I'm also not saying all Japanese think they are the best, but most of them do.
Posted 12/21/07

rhynny wrote:

Ok, serious topic, majority in CR seem to want to go visit or live in Japan, show us what you know about the history and politics of your favorite country (wait! don't run off!)

A few questions to think about:

Why do you think Japan recovered so quickly and efficiently after the huge devastation of WWII?

to the point that it is now the 3rd country with the highest GDP?

even when it had to pay off 1 trillion 30 billion yen war reparation?

What do you think of the JSDF (Self-defence Forces)?

Should Japan continue to depend on the US to protect them from threats abroad?

Or should they start re-arming for more than Self-defense with the nuclear threat posed by N. Korea in the horizon?

What about Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's continued stance to increase Japanese influence in the international political stage considering Japan since WWII has stayed away from international conflict.

And Japan's strong support of the US and the Bush administration?




Japan recovery was due to Mac Arthurs orders to send W. Edwards Deming to Japan after WWII. W. Edwards Deming was the sole turner of the Japanese economy because he gave them the concept of the constant goal of better quality. (This is known as Kaizen in Japan) He showed Japan that if you build something with quality in a very short amount of time you can become a world leader in innovative products. The Japanese took this to heart.

From my understanding Japan does not strongly support the US and Bush administration... for instance let me give you an example. If the USA were to be attacked from let’s say from N.K. Japan would not defend us. Their constitution forbids it.
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Posted 12/21/07
Japanese killed my ancestors.........and most Japanese men are male chauvinist....but they are great when it comes to manners....I still wanna go there although my grandparents hold grudges against them.This is an example of how much Chinese hate the Japanese

In 2001, a woman named Zou Xue published a picture of Zhao Wei wearing a dress with a Japanese military flag on the cover of Bazaar Magazine.The public saw it as a sign of disrespecting government policy, as well as the sensibilities of Chinese. The Chinese public, still angry over the war with Japan, responded furiously. Zhao's relations with mainland audiences were strained. At a concert, she was tackled by Fu Shenghua, a construction worker who said his grandparents had been killed during the war. He smeared her face with feces.Reflecting upon his actions, Fu told a Chinese magazine: "I know what I did wasn't right. But I believe my cause was just... As a famous Chinese person, she should have been aware of such an important event in Chinese history.
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Posted 12/21/07

angelchick2116 wrote:

Japan needs to apologize for teaching their kids that The Rape of Nanjing didn't happen or that the videos and photos of dead bodies and raped women were just made by the Chinese. I mean come one. Germany even said sorry to the Jews for what they did, and the Rape on Nanjing was nearly just as bad yet the Japanese act like it never happened. Or that they were just trying to HELP China.


I actually think Japan will never apologise to anyone, they are still denying it presently. It mystifies me how inhumane and disrespectful a government can be when their crimes were so obvious and brutal. It takes courage to admit, accept and move on, i commend Germany for at least sincerely apologising to the Jews and banishing the Nazis and any form of military society by the Nazis. Sadly, the Japanese do not have that mindset, personally i would call it weakness.

As above mentioned that Japanese have manners, this may be true, but manners are nothing compared to dignity, respect and justice. It's a pity that in the aspect of politics and relations with the nations japan has done wrong to, Japan's deficits lay in all three categories. Admittance takes courage. Japan does not have that.

The day they accept their crimes as truth and atone appropriately, will be a day to remember.
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Posted 12/21/07
I heard that after the WWII Japan was not allowed to built an army, but what the Japanese do was that they built the world's strongest police force which was even more powerful than some of the countries army.
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30 / M / Melbourne
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Posted 12/21/07
i could answer ur questions in japanese cause i could explain it better but then u people wouldn't be able to understand.
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30 / M / Mars
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Posted 12/22/07
wow too political, about the past.....and crisis about this and that...
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Posted 12/23/07
I was born in Nagano and lived there until I finished my first year of middle school. Living in Japan is pretty competitive... But it's great. v(>~<)v
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Posted 9/30/08

Kenshin1986 wrote:

i could answer ur questions in japanese cause i could explain it better but then u people wouldn't be able to understand.

itd still be interesting to read your opinion.....plus ppl can always use a translators to read these thingd (like software or a books)etc
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Posted 9/30/08
I dont think it even matters if they say sorry or not
its been too long and there is no point living in the past
the present is too dangerous to ignore
besides every country has it dark secrets so
who is anyone to judge
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Posted 9/30/08

echo123456 wrote:


rhynny wrote:

^ that's the american perspective. Japanese death toll was more like 600,000 civilians and 2 million military.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

all other countries in asia lost bout 12.5 million civillians. china alone lost 7 million and indonesia 4 million. if ur talking about civilian deaths, Japan did get off lightly.







Not to mention how those deaths came about. Not to mention their crimes against humanity. Not to mention their constant denial and refusal to accept responsibility (i'm not talking about just reparations). Not to mention their false pride. Not to mention their insane mentality and idea of hierarchy(which goes against all morals). Not to mention their injustice.
AND they still think they're the ones who were disadvantaged. I do know that, if America chose to invade mainland, there would have been more than 1 million Japanese civilian casualties, 500 thousand US casualties. During the final months, the Imperial Japanese Army, were teaching the civilians to fight until every last one of them is dead- never surrender because the military told it's citizens that Americans will :
torture them
kill their families
put them into slavery
kill the emperor
All in all, America's big boys actually did a favour to the rest of the world by instigating the unconditional surrender of the Imperial Jap Army.
As for everything the japs did, it's unforgivable. At least the Nazi Germany admitted their mistakes and sincerely reforming, the Japanese (at least the ones in government) still think their actions were justified and thus even refuse to admit their atrocities. Even now, there are politicians who think their entire involvement in WWII is a fabrication. The fact that Japanese text books don't even mention things like Nanjing, Pearl and human experimentation, shows their lack of respect to other humans. A truly selfish and sub-human mindset. Despicable.


Boo hoo. Cry me a river. I'm not saying that your information is incorrect. It may exaggerated but honorable men may differ. My point is who cares. People die. War, crime, disease. No matter how noble or how despicable people are, they all die. I don't mean to be an ass but your ranting is irrelevant because we are all gonna die. Death puts everything into perspective and makes everything pointless. So what does it matter.
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Posted 9/30/08
ahhh what ever i just would love to go there
Posted 9/30/08

echo123456 wrote:


angelchick2116 wrote:

Japan needs to apologize for teaching their kids that The Rape of Nanjing didn't happen or that the videos and photos of dead bodies and raped women were just made by the Chinese. I mean come one. Germany even said sorry to the Jews for what they did, and the Rape on Nanjing was nearly just as bad yet the Japanese act like it never happened. Or that they were just trying to HELP China.


I actually think Japan will never apologise to anyone, they are still denying it presently. It mystifies me how inhumane and disrespectful a government can be when their crimes were so obvious and brutal. It takes courage to admit, accept and move on, i commend Germany for at least sincerely apologising to the Jews and banishing the Nazis and any form of military society by the Nazis. Sadly, the Japanese do not have that mindset, personally i would call it weakness.

As above mentioned that Japanese have manners, this may be true, but manners are nothing compared to dignity, respect and justice. It's a pity that in the aspect of politics and relations with the nations japan has done wrong to, Japan's deficits lay in all three categories. Admittance takes courage. Japan does not have that.

The day they accept their crimes as truth and atone appropriately, will be a day to remember.


You two need to realize that this is very similar to what the US is doing in terms of the Native Americans. We do not tell the truth in our textbooks, nor have we ever officially apologized for our atrocities towards them. So please don't act so baffled at Japan's denial, when it happens elsewhere. I am only doing this because your posts have no relevance with the questions that the thread starter introduced.
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