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Rap or Crap?
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Posted 10/22/07
I don't like rap. It's all bling, sex or gangsters. Also, it's all the same.

Sometimes there are good hiphop acts, but hiphop sucks most time, too.
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Posted 10/22/07
crappy rap. DOES IT KINDA LINK?
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21 / M / in your face :P
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Posted 10/22/07
in america only kanye west and eminem r the only good rappists left yea i agree most r wannabes just wanting to be kool but theyre not
whereas asians rap r pretty kool i like listening to edison chen and epik high rap ^^
Posted 10/22/07
Rap is a crock of shit. Basically just going on about Prostitutes, drugs, shaking asses, being a pimp, being shot in a drive-by, being shot in a drive-by while being a pimp, etc. Nearly everyone at my school is obsessed with that shit. >_>
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Posted 10/22/07
Rap is awsome!!
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....................urhgggg...............there are so many ignorant people on CR when it comes to music......................................
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opinions based on a superficial perusal of the hiphop mainstream are worthless. that's like writing off pop because of shit like britney spears.

I've said this before, but UNDERGROUND is where it's at.

I can guarantee 90% you will change your opinions after you hear Immortal Technique's "Dance With The Devil"
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Nah, Rap isn't Crap. Rap was the music back then where poverty and racism ruled the streets and people spoke out against it through music like Tupac, Big L, Too Short, Run-DMC, Grandmaster Flash, and Ice Cube. Hip-Hop entered during the late 90s and that is when it completely changed, with 50 Cent, Lil John, Mac Dre, Young Joc. Hip-Hop had two forms: Dance and Pimp imagery. Now, it's all about R&B and Bay Area Music, like Hurricane Chris, Ne-Yo, Keak the Sneak, The Federation, Chris Brown, Souljah Boy, and Shop Boyz. There ain't no gangsterism no more, just dance and love music. I've listened to all of them and some had flaws and some are just fun to listen too. I've changed my views about racism and the ghetto through Tupac's music and I've learned some fun dance moves from Souljah Boy. It all depends on taste. I like 'em all. There is no need to hate because eventually, everything changes.
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Rap IS CRAP. God I hate it.
Posted 10/22/07

virilevocalist wrote:

opinions based on a superficial perusal of the hiphop mainstream are worthless. that's like writing off pop because of shit like britney spears.

I've said this before, but UNDERGROUND is where it's at.

I can guarantee 90% you will change your opinions after you hear Immortal Technique's "Dance With The Devil"


He basically summed up what I was going to say.
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The majority of rap is crap (good stuff hard to find...) Stick to rock: ROCK ALL THE WAY!
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VladiSan wrote:

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I agree! Though sometimes they do talk about life
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VladiSan wrote:

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I agree! Though sometimes they do talk about life
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Posted 10/22/07
Quote from another thread based on the topic of Hip Hop


big_j_gangsta wrote:

These are prolly the best responses all day about why ppl dislike hip hop, unlike most of the ppl in here talking out of their asses about why they think hip hop is shit.


kyocool wrote:

I've never though hip hop was problem causing. I just feel alot of it is very very generic and overplayed. I have nothing against genuinely talented rap artists...it just seems they are very far and in between now a days.
I know most everything rappers talk about are imbedded in the "rap" culture. Doesn't mean i agree or dissagree with it.

I'm more infuriated with the lack of creativity in the lyrics more than anything.
Theres more to hip hop than bitches, hoes, bling and hustlin. Yet thats 99% of what i hear from rappers...it just disgusts me no one has anything intelligent to say.


Trevor (OP)



In Trevor's case, I don't blame you. I mean yes, to be realistic, the fact that most hip hop artists can only talk about that shit prolly causes the genre to lack any form of creativity. But apparently, that's the fucking gimmick these days that these wannabe upcoming fags believe will get them major success. These wannabe gangsta rappers believe that 99% of their crap should be about bitches, hoes and shit, and it'll make them instant legends like Biggie, Pac, Big L, etc. However, the difference between those wannabe bitches and the hip hop greats is that outside of all the gangsta joints they made, they also made a lot of very creative and extremely conscious minded songs which also gave them fame and recognition. Tupac especially, back in the 90s, before the East/West shit, Pac was making music that tried to spark rebellion and make changes to society.
I mean, that prolly won't change ur opinion about hip hop Trevor.......but still, it's something that should be kept in mind. I don't blame you for hating today's hip hop.............most true hip hop heads would prolly agree with u if we were just strictly talking about today's hip hop music. But just keep in mind, the shit that's heard in the mainstream doesn't represent the fucking genre as a whole.


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Nothing terribly new or remarkable in that quote. I do agree that the problem is a lot bigger than just the presence of obscene language. I also agree that it's unfair to expect morally bankrupt criminals to all of a sudden behave as role models.

I don't think all hip hop is bad, nor do I beleive it is all devoid of substance. Right now the house that hip hop built is crashing down all around it. This was a house built on the glamorization of the urban black criminal lifestyle. The allure it once held to rebelling white teenagers has all but vanished. Hip hop sales are dropping at an astronomical rate. "Gangster Rap" is all but dead in the mainstream.

People like Kanye can keep going because they stayed away from that imagery, but it's still just another arrogant cock telling me how great he is. Sorry, that's not lyrical excellence, that's ego masturbation even if it doesn't celebrate a criminal lifestyle.

There is so little hip hop worth listening to out there that I do feel perfectly justified dismissing it all as garbage. I really don't give a damn how much of a pathetic piece of trash you are, how shitty a life you've had, all of your "ghetto accomplishments" and I really really fucking don't care about how great you think you are.

I love how every rapper thinks people are "afraid" of them. Get an education, dress respectably, and then hold down a real job and you will officially make me scared. No matter how popular they are at the moment, they will all eventually get tossed out with the rest of the pop culture trash (unless they go out in a blaze of glory at the height of their popularity).

I've been listening to a lot of jazz recently and it's just appalling how far african american music culture has fallen into decline over the last 50+ years. It used to be extraordinary once, now I think it's too enamored with it's own failure to ever truly recover.


Azrael, ur comment kinda helped me answer some of Trevor's views on hip hop.
But anyway in response to you, I can kinda get what ur saying. I mean, I can basically simplify ur comment in a couple of points right now.
1) Hip Hop was doing great up until the late 90s, which is when ppl not associated with the true culture of hip hop involved.
2) Those ppl would be Corporate America, and since 2000.....those corporate assholes have been dictating the direction of "mainstream" hip hop music.

To elaborate more, I'll just add on to the fact that in 2000.....the founder of BET Bob Johnson sold the BET network to the company Viacom, which are the corporate assholes that own MTV, VH1 and Nickelodeon. In other words, Bob Johnson sold a network station made for black folk, the main core of the hip hop community, to a group of white people that have no damn association with hip hop at all. Not that I'm saying that hip hop can't be for white people, my point is that hip hop represents rebellion and the voice of urban youth, and it is basically in the hands of a bunch of rich white folk that have prolly never lived in a ghetto in their lifetime. I mean, I remember back in the day BET use to have their own nightly news show to keep Urban America informed about daily issues occurring in their communities. But about a couple of years ago, Viacom took that shit out. And let's be realistic here, back in the 90s, BET use to promote ALL forms of the hip hop genre, both mainstream AND underground hip hop was highlighted on the network. Now, fucking underground shit can't get any shine and most of the conscious, intellectual mainstream hip hop gets minimal burn on fucking BET. I mean, to be more specific, they fucking banned any new videos being released by artists such as De La Soul, Da Brat, Mos Def, Jean Gray, etc.
To simplify what I elaborated, back in the 90s, BET use to glorify the entire culture of hip hop. The conscious shit, the feel-good shit, the gangsta shit, graffitti, DJs, etc. But ever since Viacom bought BET, Viacom has dictated how hip hop should be viewed on BET. To be more specific, Viacom is fucking glorifying the negative aspects of hip hop for the mere fact that they believe it sells, and that's how they believe hip hop should be viewed. Viacom, a group of rich, conservative white folk, are using BET to dictate how hip hop and the urban lifestyle should be displayed to mainstream America. It just sickens me how one of the most influential TV networks in hip hop during the 90s is now a damn puppet for Corporate America to use to control how a culture should be viewed to the mainstream audience.

Well, that's my latest rant..........you can agree or disagree, but I'm just laying down the truth.

And one more thing to answer the question of this entire thread "Rock vs. Rap/Hip Hop"..........at this point in the current era of music, I'd rather listen to R&B more than both of these genres combined


In bold are probably, THE BEST well-thought out arguments against Hip Hop. The rest of the arguments that I've been hearing lately, especially from this thread is just as crappy as a Soulja Boy record. Unlike yall can take the time to think REALLY hard about why you think a specific genre is garbage, which includes looking at ALL aspects of hip hop or w/e genre you hate, one small biased comment pulled straight out of your immature asshole is absolutely worthless and deserves no credibility.

Before you go and diss hip hop, think about well-thought out reasons to why you hate it.........and then YOU'LL really see if a genre like hip hop is truly bad
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Posted 10/22/07
like with all music genres, it gets saturated. there is always an artist every five to ten years that has something new creative and ingenious to add, but those artists are few and far inbetween. country is as bad as rap. just a bunch of record labels trying to make money not music. punk has gone downhill and so has rock. it is all just a bunch of rip offs of previous geniuses. the problem is people rip off wannabes and the music turns out horrible.
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