Alerting the Future about the Dangers of the past
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Posted 7/18/08
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/17/nuclearpower.climatechange
So I came across this article this morning, please read it.

The guy who wrote the article poses a very interesting question. Give the considerably long Half-life of Nuclear waste, now do we warn future generations? And not recent future generations, I mean generations so far into the future we cannot possibly comphrend how to communicate danger.

When you think about it even another 1,000 years is a very long time. And in 1,000 years so much can change. Especially with how fast society changes these days. Back 1,000 years ago if your country was occupied by another military force a minimum occupation was 180 years. Now we can generally clear out and be done with occupation within 5 years. 1,000 years ago they did not really keep any hazardous materials around. So there had no use for specific markings of such things. Who is to say 1,000 years from now we will have a hazardous waste disposal problem? Who is to say that we will inhabit the same area for another 1,000 years? We could very well just migrate away from out home.

This is all from just 1,000 years of time. Now take that and make it 10,000 years, what will be happening then, is there anyway to tell? What do you guys think might be the best way to alert future generations. Please keep Hippee BS to a minimum :big:
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we cant, history repeats itself.
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Posted 7/18/08
I think humans are made and destined to repeat their mistakes, since we forget.
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Posted 7/18/08

kamicase13 wrote:

I think humans are made and destined to repeat their mistakes, since we forget.
We write down reminders to help us remember. But this is not exactly a mistake either. We are trying to prevent the distant future generations from harming themselves by our mistakes

pinoyrave wrote:

we cant, history repeats itself.
I will admit there is a cycle to history. But since there is a cycle it can also be assumed that similiar ideas will surface which will allow us to convey the message we wish to convey


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anti-freeze wrote:


kamicase13 wrote:

I think humans are made and destined to repeat their mistakes, since we forget.
We write down reminders to help us remember. But this is not exactly a mistake either. We are trying to prevent the distant future generations from harming themselves by our mistakes

pinoyrave wrote:

we cant, history repeats itself.
I will admit there is a cycle to history. But since there is a cycle it can also be assumed that similiar ideas will surface which will allow us to convey the message we wish to convey




I think that we already covered the part when we leave stuff to remind that ones that come along, you dont need to go 10000 years in the future for that, look at the 4000 years of "history" the humans have records of, we already have a reminder of wars, natural disasters and such, but we still fight for resources or make wars with a non-valid or just stupid excuse, and dont make me remind you of ppl still building houses / apartments close to the rivers or the seas or active volcanic zones, we know sooner or later something is gonna happen but i guess the human nature just tells us "naaaaa its okey, its safe, nothing will happen"...........

When we human live a traumatic or difficult situation, after it, we just try to forget and at the end we become calm and relaxed, humanity usually forgets cuz the use the premise of "that will not happen to me"......
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im fairly certian that will have long since killed ourselves off by then .
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history is BS, History doesn't always repeat itself.. if humans can control it. then it wont happen again.. >.> well, the world is gonna end anyway.. >.>
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johnkx wrote:

history is BS, History doesn't always repeat itself.. if humans can control it. then it wont happen again.. >.> well, the world is gonna end anyway.. >.>


I woulndt say that history is bullshit, the thing i could say its that its always one sided, the one that usually writes it, is the survivor or the winner (in case of a war).
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Hm, right now we should try things that will prevent harm to the environment. If for example global warming continues, a lot of land will be covered with water. I, say we should change the present for the future that will come. 10.000 years from now, humans might not be the main species that are ruling earth. Or the world as we know it now will definately be different for years to come.
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I guess in 10000 years humna race will be extint in the planet anyhow, probably we would have jumped of this rotating boat and found a new planet to "destroy"
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Posted 7/21/08

johnkx wrote:

history is BS, History doesn't always repeat itself.. if humans can control it. then it wont happen again.. >.> well, the world is gonna end anyway.. >.>
Yes the world will end one day but assuming that the worlds end will be brought about by the destruction of the Sun we still have 4 billion years.

But humans do control history, in the end we are slaves to whoever was in power in the past.

kamicase13 wrote:

Well in the past 7,000 years we have come a very long way. Keep in mind that most societies were unaware of the rest of the world till the 1600s. But you are right, in the end all we can do is just write down what we have done and seen and hope for the best.


rockxx wrote:

Hm, right now we should try things that will prevent harm to the environment. If for example global warming continues, a lot of land will be covered with water. I, say we should change the present for the future that will come. 10.000 years from now, humans might not be the main species that are ruling earth. Or the world as we know it now will definately be different for years to come.
The world is always changing I will give you that. But doing something like making a nuclear waste dump, if you actually READ the article you would have known why 10,000 years was chosen, is something that will affect many generations into the future. And even if we just abandon earth, lets say 2,000 years from how. As long as there is surviving nature it will reclaim the earth. And what happens with the future spawn of humanity is interested in coming back to see its roots?

Posted 5/21/09
i think most people are to stupid to learn from their mistakes. if they weren't, they would put more effort in telling the future generation to never do what they did (crime, prejudism, etc.) .........
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johnkx wrote:

history is BS, History doesn't always repeat itself.. if humans can control it. then it wont happen again.. >.>


Yea, that's why newer countries like the U.S never looked at the actions of older nations like Britian and France, like colonization, and started copying them. Obviously the U.S has never taken land from a group of people like the Native Americans and killed them in large numbers, because they can control that so they wont do it again like Britain and France did to other people in the past.
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Posted 5/22/09
think the only way we can do is warn them by educating the younger ones and hope they pass on their knowledge and learnings to the generations after them... al gore and all the other are telling people about the negative things happening now... every one knows, a few acts... a thousand years from now, i thnk the world would be facing even more threats... a wonder if oxygen would be still be free thousand of years from now, like what one would be reading from magazines and such...
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