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Why we hate 4Kids?
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22 / M / St.Kitts
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Posted 10/22/08
Hmm...a network called 4Kids?Yeah I totally think it should completly keep the anime uncut and use offensive language for kids to watch it, makes them total badass hardcore like the people here at crunchyroll!
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Posted 1/29/09 , edited 1/29/09
4kids should quit!
Here are some of their stupid edits:

[first pic, edit, second is original]
4kids hates guns


[first pic is original, second is edit]
4kids hates riceballs -___-


[first pic, original, second is edit]
4kids are RACIST!

Read what I found on my dear Wikipedia:

"Criticism"
"Despite the edits against violence and other content not deemed appropriate for American children, moral conservative groups have criticized the programs released by 4Kids. For example, a March 2006 study [16] by the Parents Television Council on violence in children's television programs pointed out the 4Kids dub of Shaman King. L. Brent Bozell also pointed out the 4Kids-dubbed Shaman King in one of his weekly column as an example of children's media he perceived as having undue "cultural landmines".[17] Because of its extreme editorial process, many older anime fans have accused the company of racism towards the Japanese, though the company itself denies this."
At the end, they must be referring to us at CR and Youtube. xD

"Editorial practices"
"The management of 4Kids Entertainment has stated that they seek to "localize anime so that children in English-speaking countries will understand it...",[4] judging that localization is necessary in order for these titles to be marketable.[4] For most titles, the editing 4Kids performs falls into a few broad categories – 4Kids may seek to "Americanize" a program by changing character names[14], dialog, music, food, or stereotypes which would be unfamiliar or even offensive to an American audience. They also may remove some materially suggestive objects such as cigarettes or guns (replacing them with lollipops and water guns), crosses, or content deemed too violent or suggestive for American children. For example, in Yu-Gi-Oh!, the issue of death is sidestepped in the localized version, with dead characters being sent to the "shadow realm"(though this could generate plot errors, due to the fact that one can be resurrected from the Shadow Realm), as well as the fact that the Shadow Realm is a real place in the series completely independent from death. Other examples include removing many instances of violence and the elimination of several episodes from Pokémon.[15]

In most or all the anime in which all the music score and all the sound effects are completely changed, much of the writing in Japanese or English are digitally airbrushed out or replaced with unreadable symbols.

In an interview with Al Kahn, CEO of 4Kids, when asked how the company decides what properties or anime to acquire, his reply was, "We look at things such as popularity, but also if it has a merchandising component; can we license it, can we license products for it? That's really the main issue for us... the playing pattern, if it's popular and how it merchandises. If we can't merchandise it, it really doesn't have a lot of interest for us." Kahn claimed in the same interview that this was necessary, because otherwise adapting an anime would not be commercially viable due to the re-dubbing, re-editing, and re-scoring that 4Kids performs. 4Kids Entertainment remains largely unmoved by these claims, stating "...if [anime fans] want this programming to come to the United States then they're going to have to accept the fact that it's going to be available in two styles."[4]"

EVERYONE, LETS SEND THEM LETTERS!
http://www.4kidsentertainment.com/#contact
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24 / F / Fairytail
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Posted 1/29/09
watch only sub XD
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Posted 1/29/09
I think that other than the voices, it wasn't too messed up.
(Usually, thats one of the most important things in dubbed versions though)
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21 / F / LA
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Posted 1/29/09
becuz they stupid and they screwing up the anime world
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24 / M / Phillipines
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Posted 1/29/09 , edited 1/29/09
i think it is nonsense to edit an anime, because american or even people from any part of the globe also like to watch original anime
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23 / M / Oregon
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Posted 1/29/09

snakepimp wrote:

There's one reason why they suck so much more than any other dub company in the World, and that's because they try to turn anime shows into cartoons targeted to small children, with heavy censoring and racist editing, the fact that they have the worse voice directors and voice actors in the business doesn't help either. And finally, when a proven succesfull show get his reputation ruined by a horrible dub, you just know that the company it's a piece of shit.


and to add to your little rant i would like to say.

And May the 4kids Dub of One Piece be locked away very far away where nobody can ever see it again.
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Posted 1/29/09
I wanna see them try Death Note or sumthin
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F / I n ・ M y ・ O w n...
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Posted 1/29/09
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We already can point out that they screwed up most of the anime we know and love in Japanese. and due to there "safety" cautions the loaded on the shows. they just edited so much of the load of the awesomeness of the anime what can they do? They already blocked the "bad language" in dubbing which I really don`t see alot of use since they will find out later. And since they know mostly little kids these shows they want to make sure they don`t get the bad "idea" upon the show? THEY WILL FIND ALL OF THAT IN SCHOOL. Ha. We can see that in school, and werent allowed to see it on TV. that`s rich, compared to the real world. Can`t the little ones see the image of the creations of the authors of those animes? Editing the shows is kinda like editing part of there pride? (I`m rambling now) Also, They should take more pride that they can dub these anime.... I mean The good Dubbers have the lamest Animes, while the horrible Dubbers have the best kinds. :/ I`m glad I love Subs.

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(: My Post is completely boring already. Read if you want.
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21 / M / Washington
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Posted 1/29/09
"Don't move a muscle or we'll shoot you with our invisible guns!"
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21 / M / Honolulu, Hawaii
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Posted 1/29/09
They take everything good out of the animes
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21 / F / ON my Computer
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Posted 1/30/09
4kids I remember them back in my childhood! Back then I though it was pretty good but now................. I see subs are way better!!!!!!
Posted 1/30/09

azn_kawaii wrote:

messed up anime.DUH!!


the first post also had this.

4kids it fucks, it`s fucking horrible,great storyline changed into some shit plot,and the voices sucks my ass
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29 / M / New Jersey
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Posted 1/30/09 , edited 1/30/09

rosebudpony wrote:

4kids should quit!
Here are some of their stupid edits:

[first pic, edit, second is original]
4kids hates guns


[first pic is original, second is edit]
4kids hates riceballs -___-



[first pic, original, second is edit]
4kids are RACIST!



the 1st one is rightfully done for the time slot it was airing little kids would see that and the last thing we need is little kids getting the idea guns are cool when there is enough gun violence in youth culture

the 2nd one is because 90% of the kids who see it would not know what the rice ball was since it is not a common food so it was changed to something they would now so they can understand what was going on.

3rd that pic is can be viewed has highly offensive it is an image that would be see and a raciest stereotype. pictures very much like that one were use to discriminate against blacks.


some edits do need to be made to adjust to differences in culture, standards , and histories
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24 / M / Home
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Posted 1/30/09
because its FOR KIDS.....its not that hard to figer out.......
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