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Posted 8/15/08

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i love a wrestling submission move call gogoplata its done by a wrestler call undertaker =] go youtube type gogoplata n check it out


I don't think Pro Wrestling fits in with martial arts.



huh ? y ? wrestling is part of mix martial art


Shoot Wrestling and Submission Wrestling is. Pro Wrestling isn't.



y in the mma competition they do wrestling move n submission move too? lmao
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Posted 8/16/08 , edited 8/21/08


That's a different type of wrestling.

Pro Wrestling [WWE and the like] has little to no effectiveness.
Shoot Wrestling or Submission Wrestling [which are types of sport wrestling] are used in MMA.

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Posted 8/16/08 , edited 8/21/08


but u hav to admit tat MMA uses some of the skills from WWE too so its also part of it =P

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Posted 8/17/08 , edited 8/21/08


Not really.
WWE/Pro Wrestling is not in any way shape or form martial arts. It's a soap opera/action drama. The techniques used in it may be in some ways based off of other techniques but they are widely ineffective and useless in a fight.

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Posted 8/18/08 , edited 8/18/08

ndxndx wrote:

i love a wrestling submission move call gogoplata its done by a wrestler call undertaker =] go youtube type gogoplata n check it out


the ones that do work are taken from shoot wrestling, college, greco roman, or even judo, submisions, and now.. brazilian jujitsu...
for example the F..U.. , or the german suplex..
moves used in pro wrestling.. are used because
1) they look good (making them attention bringers)
2) they can also be signature moves.. just like undertaker's Gogoplata.. or the shawn michael's kick..
3) they look like they work..
(sometimes they might...) (kinda iffy about actually using aerial moves.. but you never know..lol.unless they're the kicks, or dropping close XDDD)
wat also looks col is Rampage's powerbomb... and works
which is in UFC.. hehe

but like ice said some ofthese techniques are somewhat based.. ..
but the counters to them.. are quite amazing.. but alot of it is pretty dramatic..
..but hey if you think its cool thats all you^^,

nxd... try out checking out the grappling styles shown on the page..some of them are pretty interesting.. it msny not look like what you've seen but hey.. you' might learn something, and they might kick ass!


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Posted 8/21/08 , edited 8/21/08


lols ? its effective ! anw your view n mine is diff lets stop .
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Posted 8/21/08

most_unpredictable_ninja wrote:


ndxndx wrote:

i love a wrestling submission move call gogoplata its done by a wrestler call undertaker =] go youtube type gogoplata n check it out


the ones that do work are taken from shoot wrestling, college, greco roman, or even judo, submisions, and now.. brazilian jujitsu...
for example the F..U.. , or the german suplex..
moves used in pro wrestling.. are used because
1) they look good (making them attention bringers)
2) they can also be signature moves.. just like undertaker's Gogoplata.. or the shawn michael's kick..
3) they look like they work..
(sometimes they might...) (kinda iffy about actually using aerial moves.. but you never know..lol.unless they're the kicks, or dropping close XDDD)
wat also looks col is Rampage's powerbomb... and works
which is in UFC.. hehe

but like ice said some ofthese techniques are somewhat based.. ..
but the counters to them.. are quite amazing.. but alot of it is pretty dramatic..
..but hey if you think its cool thats all you^^,

nxd... try out checking out the grappling styles shown on the page..some of them are pretty interesting.. it msny not look like what you've seen but hey.. you' might learn something, and they might kick ass!




thx dude =] haha i watch all type of fighting shows n movie im learnin some from ther haha
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Posted 8/21/08 , edited 8/21/08

Well it's not martial arts. That's the bottom line.
Pro Wrestling, TKD, Aikido, etc. are all widely known as ineffective in terms of combat.
Doesn't mean they are bad. It's just that combat is not their aim. Aikido aims to subdue an opponent without harm. TKD aims for fitness, showmanship, and competition. Pro Wrestling aims for show.
You see?

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Posted 8/21/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


Well it's not martial arts. That's the bottom line.
Pro Wrestling, TKD, Aikido, etc. are all widely known as ineffective in terms of combat.
Doesn't mean they are bad. It's just that combat is not their aim. Aikido aims to subdue an opponent without harm. TKD aims for fitness, showmanship, and competition. Pro Wrestling aims for show.
You see?




lalala u hav ur point n i hav mine would u mind stop ?
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Posted 8/21/08

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lalala u hav ur point n i hav mine would u mind stop ?



Stop what? This is a forum. It's for conversation. That's exactly what I am using for.

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Posted 8/21/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


ndxndx wrote:
lalala u hav ur point n i hav mine would u mind stop ?



Stop what? This is a forum. It's for conversation. That's exactly what I am using for.



blah blah blah though its for entertainment but its also wrestling , mma dun use wrestling move ? LMAO
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Posted 8/21/08

ndxndx wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


ndxndx wrote:
lalala u hav ur point n i hav mine would u mind stop ?



Stop what? This is a forum. It's for conversation. That's exactly what I am using for.



blah blah blah though its for entertainment but its also wrestling , mma dun use wrestling move ? LMAO

Wrestling is not universal.

Pro Wrestling is ineffective in combat. Especially against someone who knows what they are doing.

Shoot Wrestling, Submission Wrestling, and the rest are however effective in their fields.
Pro Wrestling has flashy techniques to impress people. Only idiots show off in a real fight. Thus by that logic; Flashy = ineffective. REAL wrestling is completely different with techniques used to dominate an opponent.
If you want you can talk about them.

The bottom line is that this is a martial arts group. Pro Wrestling has no place here.
You can talk about real wrestling if you want.

Furthermore, as a friendly tip; being rude and showing complete disrespect and condescension for a moderator of a group isn't the smartest idea.

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Posted 8/21/08 , edited 8/22/08


so ? u was the one who disrespected me at the 1st place Stop what ? cant u say in a better way ? our way in seeing is different so i said stop all this arguement but u didnt want to .
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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08


I did not disrespect you. I stated a simple fact. That's all. If you want to stop, just stop replying then. Because if someone unreasonably says I am wrong without any counterpoints, I am naturally going to correct them if I am obviously right.

You may have seen this as an argument but I was just having a conversation. That's where we misunderstand eachother.

This is a forum, it's for discussions. If you don't want to talk you don't have to.

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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08


OIC . I guess im bored wid it , i stop o.o '' ''
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