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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08

Ginpachi-Sensei wrote:


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Ginpachi-Sensei wrote:


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speed is essential in such case. A fast strike can be fatal when the opponent doesnt have enough time to lock. However, if the strike or the blind side run is rather slow and the attacker gets caught, in that case its grappling over striking.



so you're saying it depends on speed, and timing?



I believe so. I practice striking but I know its pretty hard to handle the oppononet once you get pinned on floor.


you said it.. especially while on the face, unless you learn how to use the elbow, or hit'em where it hurts,.. cool part is countering back.. i only have seen or done grappling escapes.... unless your freaking tony jaa
my friend showed me some muay thai grappling... hhhhmm maybe some aikido pressure points.. jujutsu ay have the anwer for this..or somewhere also around the world



the only way knowing who will have the advantage would be watching shaolin vs jujutsu (creepy!)
aikido is out of the question though, haha~, the striker will just keep coming back.


the ones that you see in aikido has the nucleus of if you are attacked,, then defend by grapple.. this is not so,
the nucleus of fighting beyond any art is to fight ^___^

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Posted 8/22/08 , edited 8/22/08

Ginpachi-Sensei wrote:


most_unpredictable_ninja wrote:


Ginpachi-Sensei wrote:


most_unpredictable_ninja wrote:


Ginpachi-Sensei wrote:

speed is essential in such case. A fast strike can be fatal when the opponent doesnt have enough time to lock. However, if the strike or the blind side run is rather slow and the attacker gets caught, in that case its grappling over striking.



so you're saying it depends on speed, and timing?



I believe so. I practice striking but I know its pretty hard to handle the oppononet once you get pinned on floor.


you said it.. especially while on the face, unless you learn how to use the elbow, or hit'em where it hurts,.. cool part is countering back.. i only have seen or done grappling escapes.... unless your freaking tony jaa
my friend showed me some muay thai grappling... hhhhmm maybe some aikido pressure points.. jujutsu ay have the anwer for this..or somewhere also around the world



the only way knowing who will have the advantage would be watching shaolin vs jujutsu (creepy!)
aikido is out of the question though, haha~, the striker will just keep coming back.


the aikido that use see is that if you get attacked, you defend by grapple..
this is not so... the nuclus of fighting is to fight ^___^, but I like striking most-- but hey what ever goes..
p.s. i've seen kungfu vs. jujitsu.. LOL I respect them both still, but it was crazy!.. now there are no bad martial arts just wronged examples ^^..

p.s. Tony Jaa ..ONG BAK 2!!!!!!!! combining martial arts!!!!!!! WOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!
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Posted 9/18/08 , edited 9/18/08
general grappling is easier to pull off, esp. against bigger opponent, but frankly, against multiple opponents you can't commit yourself to an armbar. i think bruce lee settled this question, when in Enter the Dragon, John Saxon bit Bolo Yeung's leg when caught in an armbar. the fact is in a real combat situation, people bite, spit, scratch, and poke. if you have to grapple, you're only one step away from being beat. the ideal situation is always to keep your feet and keep people away from you as far as possible with strikes. this also allows you to handle multiple opponents.
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Posted 9/23/08 , edited 9/24/08
striking owns if there are no gloves. still it depends on theri skills ^_^
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Posted 9/24/08 , edited 9/24/08

yella_fella wrote:

general grappling is easier to pull off, esp. against bigger opponent, but frankly, against multiple opponents you can't commit yourself to an armbar. i think bruce lee settled this question, when in Enter the Dragon, John Saxon bit Bolo Yeung's leg when caught in an armbar. the fact is in a real combat situation, people bite, spit, scratch, and poke. if you have to grapple, you're only one step away from being beat. the ideal situation is always to keep your feet and keep people away from you as far as possible with strikes. this also allows you to handle multiple opponents.


John Saxon was a great villain! And agree with your assessment!
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Posted 9/27/08 , edited 9/27/08
hhmm same here.. if you grapple me.. i'll pull your jaw or fishook you, or grab you by the shirt and lapel choke you, and pound the crap outta ya.. if against multiple opponents.. i dont grapple much.. only time to grapple on ground is
to get back up or bring them down. or sweep'em.. you ever see
but still i'd rather mix it up.. i naturally grapple.. but i'm still trying to develop striking skills..

so if one on one..grappling, slam you on your head.
multiple. quick SWEEPS.. trap em, dodge'm if i have to but.. knock a person out, leave'm not wanting anymore.. and leaving as fast as i can

p.s. i never seen bolo as a good guy.
Posted 10/16/08 , edited 10/17/08
I choose grappling because you have a option of taking more consideration for your opponent than with striking.

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Posted 10/18/08 , edited 10/18/08

Raze22 wrote:

I choose grappling because you have a option of taking more consideration for your opponent than with striking.



i agree in what you're saying =)
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Posted 1/26/09 , edited 1/26/09
For all you strikers. Focus on Technique first, Speed second, Power last. Technique first because if you can't throw a correct punch, speed and power will not matter if you hurt your arms/fists... 2nd is speed; you can put all the power in your punch, but if its slow... they'll be able to see it coming a mile away. Last is Power; the faster your speed is the more power you'll have in a punch. The better your technique is, the more you'll be able to throw. I don't mean to sound like i'm preaching, and I am in no way a master or instructor so I apologize if I stepped out of line. I am a striker (when I can't fight with weapons) and these are just some tips I learned throughout the years. Technique, Speed, Power in that order ^-^
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