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Posted 3/5/07

xmoongirlx wrote:


cronosilver wrote:

fate-is a path we are forced to walk down no matter how hard we try to get off we will always walk it, and if reincarnation is true the in those lives we will only walk the path again.
Luck...honestly I think everything happens for a reason, I never really dwelled upon that one


I like ur definition of luck

yeah I know it is my best one lol heh heh
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Ok it's not an amazing question and is probably something that could be looked up on wikipedia, but i would prefer to hear from cr members ^-^.

I do psychology but was getting irritated about how we never defined consciousness. When I asked my lecturer i was given; 'it is when the mind is conscious of the environment it is in'. The fact that the definition contained the word is slightly worrying.
Anyway is consciousness something that can really be defined or is it something that philosophy has various theories about? I wasn't sure if this would also include ideas on reality or not aswell.

(^-^ Sorry if this is a terrible question! Philosophy is only 1/7th of my course!)
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everyone is to blame for any sort of action or reaction
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@s_j_b: I cannot type much right now (fingers hurt) is not a terrible question, consciousness is a Big one in Philosophy
Have you read this thread?
http://www.crunchyroll.com/showforumtopic?id=1040
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Hmm perhaps my question is too broad then. Oh and sorry i didn't know it was related to the self- i will read through that ^-^.

@linkinparkboy- i'm sorry i don't understand your point!
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Your lecturer is funny, i could have given you that answer, but a i also have to add that his/her definition is flawed since he/she uses the thing they they are trying to define in the definition. Sort of like saying an apple is :"The thing you eat when you eat an apple."
and that way of thinking is fundamentally flawed since you arrive at a dogma where you don´t get any answers.

I thought they proved consciousness in humans(and larger animals) as it was due to some connections in the brain, which allowed energy/electricity to run through them, resulting in consciousness.

How i myself define consciousness to myself: a state in which you can question the state of being that you are currently in, resulting in decisions that are not based on your dire needs i.e food, but based on the things that you assume to be vital to preserve your way of life/ state of being of your choosing.

now this may all be flawed, but i did scribble this together on a whim and please do flame me.

EDIT: @Linkinboy - Huh?

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Hehe thankyou! I thought i was being fussy since everyone else in the class just accepted his answer!

I agree with your biological idea. That consciousness is actually defined by which parts of the brain are active (electric signals). I was just wondering about the philosophical side of it- which apparantly is based on the self and personality. I think this links in with what you said about consciousness being more about personal needs rather than the lower down the hierachy ones like food. I may have misunderstood sorry!
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No you were on the mark, i just had a spelling mistake in there which almost screwed up my entire thought.
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Yea the study of consciouses is a large part of philosophy and falls under what is called philosophy of mind.

"The fact that the definition contained the word is slightly worrying."
Well, yes in one way, no in another. One has consciousness when one is conscious. Its simple truth by definition. All that he really pins on further is the term mind and being aware of the environment. However, you, quite naturally, want more then that.

"I do psychology but was getting irritated about how we never defined consciousness."
Ah defining things is a risky business. One of my interests is philosophy of language.

Allow me to reveal something rather astonishing (perhaps...). Most people think it good practice to define our terms first. Only then can we come to understand what it is we are talking about. But, it is much the reverse. This can be seen as similar to evolution vs design debates (Design - we come from something more complicated. Evolution - simple processes can produce complected things.). The better understanding requites a queer inversion of thought. Where would we even find this definition of consciousness? Indeed, it is by examining the way the world works, the issues involved, the context, and so on, that we may in time come to agree on a definition. Nothing is as simple as we hope it will be (quoting the headline of my profile).

"Anyway is consciousness something that can really be defined or is it something that philosophy has various theories about?" Ah, you see, I would say its not either/or.
Thats enough for now, without getting much into consciousness itself.
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i just wanted to add, i heart the protoss probe. they are cute
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So, do you guys have an internalist or externalist conception of epistemic justification?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalism_and_externalism#Epistemology
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/justep-intext/



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To learn philosophy is useless unless you do philosophy.

myquestion: Human Mortality, a bless or curse?? or a natural compromise.....??
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Eros wrote:

So, do you guys have an internalist or externalist conception of epistemic justification?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalism_and_externalism#Epistemology
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/justep-intext/





Thats and interesting proposition eros. Yet it all falls in to the same category as most of our posts have stated.
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amka wrote:

To learn philosophy is useless unless you do philosophy.

myquestion: Human Mortality, a bless or curse?? or a natural compromise.....??


Neither. Something that cannot be determined by all means cannot be defined. Its like its impossible to actually analyze an electron since it is impossible to pinpoint its exact location.
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A question that has perplexed me for many years, 'where in the world in Carmen Sandiego?'
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