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The sad past and future of the Native Americans
Posted 7/23/08 , edited 7/23/08
I just have this feeling that people are completely starting to forget or ignore what the Native Americans had to go through, thanks to us, Europeans(now white Americans). All we do is talk about the black people who had to suffer in America, but they were not the first ones, nor the last ones. So I thought of a short reminder about the Native Americans, and the best way to do so is make a few of my thoughts public. You can discuss about it, argue about, just don't get overly racist towards the Indians, as this would quite piss me off to see people disrespect the seriousness of this topic.

I wasn't sure whether to put this in the ED section or in the General section, as I am not fully aware of the capabilities of the CR members, not being sure if they would be able to handle this topic in an ED section way, I rather put it in the General section.

Native Americans and the tragedy of their past
I am sitting here, watching a documentary about the Native Americans and the misery they had to go through in their past and sadly still have to go through. As sad as it is the past will always be in the present, and follow each of these lives. As the white man, in the name of God, in the name of the Catholic Church stole the children of the Indians and pushed them into internat, or missionary schools. Trying to make them forget their culture, traditions, language, and the worst, trying to make them hate their own family due to their traditions and pagan life style. Forcing them to believe in God and Jesus, beating them till they would stop using their ‘barbaric language’, forcing upon them the English language, kicking and abusing them till they would give up on trying to be themselves and start to act like the typical white Christian child. Trying to make their parents think that this would be the best thing for their children and their future, and since they are trying to bring the kids nearer to God it can’t be all wrong, even after having had an assembly where one of the parent was complaining, saying that in this internats their kids are getting treated like animals, no worse than animals, getting abused, humiliated. One of the Elders would stand up and say almost furious: ‘’How can you say this! They are trying to help us and our children, plus they are bringing them nearer to God. This can’t be wrong!’’ One of the participants, a younger man, breaks down, and starts to cry, he didn’t have to say one word, silence came upon this assembly, then of a sudden another Elder stood up, saying: ‘’ Our children must be telling the truth, otherwise, why would they have to shed tears?’’ Having been blinded by the poisonous drinks made by the white men, they tried to ignore and forget what was happening, and still are. You will see a lot of Native Americans that are addicted to alcohol….Trying to forget what happened in their past, trying to not see what was happening around them now and then, not wanting to see that they are already lost, being slowly smashed to valueless pieces by the government which is being led by the foreigners and their Church. While the government tries to persuade them of its good will, giving them 3% of their whole traditional land, they think that this will be good enough for them, but is it really enough? Indians used to live in waste territories, their living ground and their hunting places, moving from one place to another when the weather would get worse and the nutrition would not be enough for them to survive the cold days. Now they have to live in a cheap house, not wanting to move around anymore, and being indirectly forced to adapt to the new era made by the Europeans, or White Americans. Not being allowed to practice their traditions, hunting and living habitudes, or being strongly oppressed in their cultural life, as it doesn’t conform to the norm.
Their history seems to be forgotten, especially in history classes, never would there be mentioned that they had to go through a lot of misery and still have to, as they are not getting any real productive support by the government, the parents of most Indians are alcoholics, children getting neglected by their own family, this would have never happened in the natural habitat of the Native Americans. But now it can’t be undone as it is already too late, and since there is no real financial support, this will most probably still remain a part of the forgotten, or ignored historical happenings.
Being part of the white race is not something I can be proud of, since all I need to do is look at our past, everywhere where we went to, we just brought chaos and destruction, and sadly still do, seeing only our own profit, instead of trying to live in harmony with the surrounding, we prefer to bend it to our own rules and norms, which causes a lot of losses from the cultural, historical and humane point of view. Many tears have been shed due to our selfish behavior, many hearts have been torn apart, and a lot of blood lies on the ground of almost every single country and all this thanks to our mean-hearted actions.

This being said, I wish you all a nice day

Floetry~

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Posted 7/23/08 , edited 7/24/08
I have read "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee."

After reading that book, I assure you that you will never forget about the sad past of Native Americans. It was tragic. =_=

Discretion advised. Gather up your courage before reading this spoiler.



The British Empire also banned further expansion to the west, the French had peaceful relations with the Indians. Just because of the American Manifest of Destiny (which I believe is an unreliable theory) they went and expanded westward. Even though they bought Louisiana already, they still wanted more land. Greed is scary.

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Posted 7/23/08

mikomiko123 wrote:

I have read "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee."

After reading that book, I assure you that you will never forget about the sad past of Native Americans. It was tragic. =_=

Discretion advised. Gather up your courage before reading this spoiler.


*referring to the spoiler* Dude, it's a shame, it's disgusting, inhumane, etc. We came to a country and claimed for rights, and those rights we gained through eradicating most of the native people, yeah, that's really nice. Just because our race considered other races less important. ~.~
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Posted 7/23/08
They wiped out the buffalo hence, the iradication of the natives..manifesto my ass.

and that spoiler is probably because the Indians use to scalp the soldiers..
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Posted 7/23/08
marlon brando ruined his oscar appearance for their sake. that's all i know...
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Posted 7/23/08 , edited 7/23/08
Yeah, the way they treated Native Americans is sad. =[
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Posted 7/23/08

Chance16 wrote:

They wiped out the buffalo hence, the iradication of the natives..manifesto my ass.

and that spoiler is probably because the Indians use to scalp the soldiers..


Yes, the Indians did scalp American soldiers. =_=

I cannot fully remember the details, but the spoiler part was during this "Creek something" battle. Well, it was actually not a battle since the Native Americans were just peacefully living on the grounds that was assigned to them. (At that time, the US Gov were already enforcing Indians to live in a specific place.) Then some General was angered by some matter that made him attack the Indians. An Indian Chief (which I forgot the name) was given an American Flag by the US President at that time. The US President promised the chief that he will never be harmed if he raises that flag. Thus, during the attack, the chief went up to his tepee and raised the American Flag. All the other Indians, knowing the symbol of the flag went to the chief and stood by him. However, the American soldiers still killed them.
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Posted 7/23/08
interesting...-_-"
Posted 7/23/08
isn't the standard of living better since the whites went to america? o0
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isn't the standard of living better since the whites went to america? o0


Does that repay all those lives that were lost? Not just the Native Americans, but also the African-Americans, the Chinese gold miners who received awful discrimination and etc.

Besides, that so-called "better standard of living" is currently diminishing.
Posted 7/23/08

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KinkyHamster wrote:

isn't the standard of living better since the whites went to america? o0


Does that repay all those lives that were lost? Not just the Native Americans, but also the African-Americans, the Chinese gold miners who received awful discrimination and etc.

Besides, that so-called "better standard of living" is currently diminishing.

i blame Ritz =_=

Posted 7/23/08 , edited 7/23/08
It's in the past~ and even though I'm part Cherokee myself I do not like pity parties from any race of people if the situation happened more then a couple generations ago :\
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Posted 7/23/08
i didnt really want to read that big paragraph sinec im busy, but is there any mention about the bad things they did? killing, canibalism, torturing people? there were good indians and bad ones. to be honest i dont care much, every race has gone through a terrible time, the indians, then african americans, and now whites. oh and the jews before as well. and the germans. the list goes on
Posted 7/23/08
Don't the u.s pay them like $1-3000 USD a month for that?
Jesus get over it.
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Posted 7/23/08
sad...
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