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Posted 7/25/08

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"This whole discussion is about failure.... failure to listen....failure to follow directions....thats the point of my original quote..." -carlrules097



"Why listen to someone who does not listen to you?"-anonymous

This is the quote of our debate and it has nothing to do with failure.
Try not to lose sight of things.

I think you are the one losing sight of things, the quote is about someone failing to listen to what you have to say, the keyword being failure, and it is exactly why this entire conversation has been about failure
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I think you are the one losing sight of things, the quote is about someone failing to listen to what you have to say, the keyword being failure, and it is exactly why this entire conversation has been about failure


I think you should read what Tel has to say again.
To listen to someone who does not listen to others is not encouraging ignorance. If someone does not listen to you, that is their problem. However if you dismiss what they say in return you will be suffering from the same ignorance that inflicted them and turned you away from them. You see?

You still haven't responded to my reply to you in the "What IS Martial Arts?" topic. I'm eager to hear your opinion.
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yukio mishima - a man even in his death has to be like cherry flowers, well i think this can tell almost everything about Japanese mentality
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yukio mishima - a man even in his death has to be like cherry flowers, well i think this can tell almost everything about Japanese mentality


Coming from a man who definitely went out with a bang.
Some say he was a radical. I say he was a man with the spirit of the samurai who stood out from the cowards who have lost their way and sold their souls for power.

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Posted 7/26/08

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marjan007 wrote:

yukio mishima - a man even in his death has to be like cherry flowers, well i think this can tell almost everything about Japanese mentality


Coming from a man who definitely went out with a bang.
Some say he was a radical. I say he was a man with the spirit of the samurai who stood out from the cowards who have lost their way and sold their souls for power.



well i totally agree with that he is one of my favourite writers and not only that ..............he really knew what it takes to be a samurai and he also knew how to say that death is beautiful . He took the notion of TRADITON on a high level almost unataniable for most of the people from his time (and not only from his time!!!!) .....and i don't think he was a radical, mostly he was an idealist who searched for the image of the perfect warrior. He is like a steel blade and i really do like the steel blades like him!
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Posted 7/26/08

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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


marjan007 wrote:

yukio mishima - a man even in his death has to be like cherry flowers, well i think this can tell almost everything about Japanese mentality


Coming from a man who definitely went out with a bang.
Some say he was a radical. I say he was a man with the spirit of the samurai who stood out from the cowards who have lost their way and sold their souls for power.



well i totally agree with that he is one of my favourite writers and not only that ..............he really knew what it takes to be a samurai and he also knew how to say that death is beautiful . He took the notion of TRADITON on a high level almost unataniable for most of the people from his time (and not only from his time!!!!) .....and i don't think he was a radical, mostly he was an idealist who searched for the image of the perfect warrior. He is like a steel blade and i really do like the steel blades like him! :)


Have you read "Sun and Steel" ?
If not, it's a great autobiography of him. I have not read it all, but I have been a fan of his writing. I have a collection of his short stories.

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Posted 7/26/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


marjan007 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


marjan007 wrote:

yukio mishima - a man even in his death has to be like cherry flowers, well i think this can tell almost everything about Japanese mentality


Coming from a man who definitely went out with a bang.
Some say he was a radical. I say he was a man with the spirit of the samurai who stood out from the cowards who have lost their way and sold their souls for power.



well i totally agree with that he is one of my favourite writers and not only that ..............he really knew what it takes to be a samurai and he also knew how to say that death is beautiful . He took the notion of TRADITON on a high level almost unataniable for most of the people from his time (and not only from his time!!!!) .....and i don't think he was a radical, mostly he was an idealist who searched for the image of the perfect warrior. He is like a steel blade and i really do like the steel blades like him! :)


Have you read "Sun and Steel" ?
If not, it's a great autobiography of him. I have not read it all, but I have been a fan of his writing. I have a collection of his short stories.



unfortunatly no i haven't but i intend to look for it now that u also mentioned it! (but i am afraid it's not translated here in my country) the book that i've read besides his short storis is The path of the samurai, today - that's the gist of his philosophy and i think that u have to have a lot of guts in order to develop that kind of mentality (if u'll read it u'll undrestand what i talk about!) that man was a real diamond!
also if u're interested in Japanese literature i also recommend u to read Haruki Murakami i 'm sure u've heard about him ..anyway some consider him a bit too comercial , well i don't think so if u like to exercise ur mind and analize all sorts of symbols and also to find the way out of the labyrinth safe well.............. u can give it a try....anyway thanks for the recommandation mate!
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um i only have one quote right now but its a good warrior quote.

"Est Suluras Oth Mithas- My Honor Is My Life" I find this important because a warrior without honor is a not a warrior but a coward with a weapon.
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Posted 7/28/08
I have two more one many of you have most likely heard, one you may have heard maybe not, they both have been in recent movies

"Return with your shield or on it" - As many of you know its an old spartan quote, i just like it because it in a way sums up their fighting culture to either come back with your shield or die defending your country

"Yesterday is history, Tommorrow is a mystery, But today is a gift and that's why it is called Present" - This is actually from one of my favorite movies, Kung Fu Panda, even though it is a kids movie this quote is great advice on how to look at life, dont dweel in the past, look to towards the furture, but only worry about here and now
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I have two more one many of you have most likely heard, one you may have heard maybe not, they both have been in recent movies

"Return with your shield or on it" - As many of you know its an old spartan quote, i just like it because it in a way sums up their fighting culture to either come back with your shield or die defending your country

"Yesterday is history, Tommorrow is a mystery, But today is a gift and that's why it is called Present" - This is actually from one of my favorite movies, Kung Fu Panda, even though it is a kids movie this quote is great advice on how to look at life, dont dweel in the past, look to towards the furture, but only worry about here and now


the first quote has also its history so......for as far as i known those were the words of Cornelia the mother of Gracchi brothers that she to her sons before going to war. She is known for being a model mother with a very strict code of rules!
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Alright I have no famous warrior quotes but quotes that pertain to war.

Veni, vidi, vici (I came, I saw, I conquered.) - Julius Caesar (probably one of the most famous quotes of all time)

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind. - Mahatma Ghandi (even though I'm pretty sure this is out of the bible or something- I know it because of Ghandi so I'll leave it as his quote.)

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Since Life was included in this I had to put this quote it is one of my favorite quotes of all time.

"If life gives you lemons find the person who life gave the vodka and have a party." Ron White

My other favorites are:

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first." Mark Twain

"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time."
Mark Twain

"My formula for living is quite simple. I get up in the morning and I go to bed at night. In between, I occupy myself as best I can." Cary Grant

"Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon."
Susan Ertz

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." George S. Patton
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Macedonian wrote:

Alright I have no famous warrior quotes but quotes that pertain to war.

Veni, vidi, vici (I came, I saw, I conquered.) - Julius Caesar (probably one of the most famous quotes of all time)

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind. - Mahatma Ghandi (even though I'm pretty sure this is out of the bible or something- I know it because of Ghandi so I'll leave it as his quote.)



An eye for an eye was a biblical law in the old testament, it doesn't say anything about making the world blind that was Ghandi's point. That section of the bible lays out the "laws of retribution".

This is it in it's entirety:

If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

When a slave-owner strikes the eye of a male or female slave, destroying it, the owner shall let the slave go, a free person, to compensate for the eye. If the owner knocks out a tooth of a male or female slave, the slave shall be let go, a free person, to compensate for the tooth. Exodus 21:23-21:27
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I brought this up in another group and I figured I might as well note it here. I do not claim to possess great wisdom or anything, but I do find these words of wisdom.

As I once said to a friend: [quote copyrighted; Intellectual Property of Sean Osborn.]

A wise person judges one not for their appearance or background, but rather for their actions and decisions alone.
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

I brought this up in another group and I figured I might as well note it here. I do not claim to possess great wisdom or anything, but I do find these words of wisdom.

As I once said to a friend: [quote copyrighted; Intellectual Property of Sean Osborn.]

A wise person judges one not for their appearance or background, but rather for their actions and decisions alone.


This is kinda a fancy and more eloquent way of saying don't judge a book by its cover. I like it.
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