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Gundam Seed Eternity
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Posted 2/23/08
i wonder what it will be like
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I'm looking forward on seeing the movie of GSE. I have no idea if it is true, I think that it is a rumor but I hope that this rumor is true.
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I kinda hate the part of Lacus dying... too many good people have died throughout the entire series..
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I hope athrun and meiryn dont end up together. I hate Meiryn so badly she pisses me off!!!!!! Oh yeah i really hope the romors are true.
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Gundam Seed Eternity is a joke ! It is some fan invention ! However there will be a Gundam Seed Movie : http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6565 ! That is for sure ! But i want after the movie , another season of Gundam Seed with all the characters ( Kira, Athrun , Lacus, Cagalli, Shinn, Lunamaria,Meyrin, Yzak, Dearka ,Murrue,Mu La Flaga...) !

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gadeel wrote:


vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:

You call them simpletons for favoring 08th MS Team, the Gundam series closest to the realism the Real Robot franchise wants to achieve (the very reason for such favor)?

Then what would you call the best Gundam series then?


Being realistic maybe good, but whats the point if everythings similar, its the producers chance to use their imagination. If we wanted to watch something realistic we might as well read journal and manuals or watch documentaries. On a personal opinion i believe SEED is the best


The realism I spoke of was something along the lines of not going into the super powered, unbeatable robot with practically perfect protagonist thing, which was getting old.

08th MS introduced Real Robots further into the realm of realism, with an average protagonist whose team doubted him at first, his love interest is his enemy, relies on what skill and luck he has. Besides, its plot is different from everything else that came before it (creativity at work), it just utilized the same technology base.

But that doesn't explain why its fans are simpletons.

I could say that SeeD fans are simpletons, as its demographic is lower, ripped off plots from previous series and melded them badly, had poor grunt rendering and so on.

You gave a definition of what a simpleton is, but you gave no reasons of why you accused 08th MS fans of being simpletons. I gave reasons for accusing SeeD fans of being simpletons, so what's yours?


As they are both made by the same company they wouldn't be rip-offs of each other. But being newer the older versions are being built upon to create a better series.
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Posted 2/23/08

vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:


vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:

You call them simpletons for favoring 08th MS Team, the Gundam series closest to the realism the Real Robot franchise wants to achieve (the very reason for such favor)?

Then what would you call the best Gundam series then?


Being realistic maybe good, but whats the point if everythings similar, its the producers chance to use their imagination. If we wanted to watch something realistic we might as well read journal and manuals or watch documentaries. On a personal opinion i believe SEED is the best


The realism I spoke of was something along the lines of not going into the super powered, unbeatable robot with practically perfect protagonist thing, which was getting old.

08th MS introduced Real Robots further into the realm of realism, with an average protagonist whose team doubted him at first, his love interest is his enemy, relies on what skill and luck he has. Besides, its plot is different from everything else that came before it (creativity at work), it just utilized the same technology base.

But that doesn't explain why its fans are simpletons.

I could say that SeeD fans are simpletons, as its demographic is lower, ripped off plots from previous series and melded them badly, had poor grunt rendering and so on.

You gave a definition of what a simpleton is, but you gave no reasons of why you accused 08th MS fans of being simpletons. I gave reasons for accusing SeeD fans of being simpletons, so what's yours?


As they are both made by the same company they wouldn't be rip-offs of each other. But being newer the older versions are being built upon to create a better series.


They're made by the same company, but not by the same director or production teams. And it would seem to be rip-offs if the new guys don't even adapt the old ideas properly, one example being the concept of "Newtypes", which in the Cosmic Era are rather skewed and not even properly explained. Or the technology base, some of which also aren't explained properly.

Newer is not always better, like in the case with G-Saviour, supposed to be a Universal Century sequel, but it sucked really bad. Or the continuations of some other animations, like ~Remember my memories~ for ToHeart or ~Il Teatrino~ for Gunslinger Girl. Their sequels did no justice in their following.

But this still doesn't explain why you called 08th MS Team fans simpletons.
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gadeel wrote:


vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:


vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:

You call them simpletons for favoring 08th MS Team, the Gundam series closest to the realism the Real Robot franchise wants to achieve (the very reason for such favor)?

Then what would you call the best Gundam series then?


Being realistic maybe good, but whats the point if everythings similar, its the producers chance to use their imagination. If we wanted to watch something realistic we might as well read journal and manuals or watch documentaries. On a personal opinion i believe SEED is the best


The realism I spoke of was something along the lines of not going into the super powered, unbeatable robot with practically perfect protagonist thing, which was getting old.

08th MS introduced Real Robots further into the realm of realism, with an average protagonist whose team doubted him at first, his love interest is his enemy, relies on what skill and luck he has. Besides, its plot is different from everything else that came before it (creativity at work), it just utilized the same technology base.

But that doesn't explain why its fans are simpletons.

I could say that SeeD fans are simpletons, as its demographic is lower, ripped off plots from previous series and melded them badly, had poor grunt rendering and so on.

You gave a definition of what a simpleton is, but you gave no reasons of why you accused 08th MS fans of being simpletons. I gave reasons for accusing SeeD fans of being simpletons, so what's yours?


As they are both made by the same company they wouldn't be rip-offs of each other. But being newer the older versions are being built upon to create a better series.


They're made by the same company, but not by the same director or production teams. And it would seem to be rip-offs if the new guys don't even adapt the old ideas properly, one example being the concept of "Newtypes", which in the Cosmic Era are rather skewed and not even properly explained. Or the technology base, some of which also aren't explained properly.

Newer is not always better, like in the case with G-Saviour, supposed to be a Universal Century sequel, but it sucked really bad. Or the continuations of some other animations, like ~Remember my memories~ for ToHeart or ~Il Teatrino~ for Gunslinger Girl. Their sequels did no justice in their following.

But this still doesn't explain why you called 08th MS Team fans simpletons.


I called them simpletons simply based on the fact that they are unable to differentiate between what is good or not. They simply enjoy it as it is more tuned to our normal military capabilities. No imagination to realise what is truly better.
Posted 2/23/08
my only wish for this series is that all of the main characters to be killed... that way this series would end and fanboys/girls of this series would finally shut up...
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COOOOL!!!
CAN'T WAIT AT ALLL, SO EXCITED RITE NOW
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Posted 2/23/08

vivelevive wrote:

I called them simpletons simply based on the fact that they are unable to differentiate between what is good or not. They simply enjoy it as it is more tuned to our normal military capabilities. No imagination to realise what is truly better.


So you're saying that they are unable to differentiate what is good or not. Did you actually talk to them to be able to gauge their ability to do so? Isn't that presumption on your part? Did you watch it and evaluate it yourself?

What would then be the criterion for "better"?

Realism was just one factor that 08th MS Team had, it also had the factors required to make an actual story. All of which were executed well.
Posted 2/23/08

vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:


vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:


vivelevive wrote:


gadeel wrote:

You call them simpletons for favoring 08th MS Team, the Gundam series closest to the realism the Real Robot franchise wants to achieve (the very reason for such favor)?

Then what would you call the best Gundam series then?


Being realistic maybe good, but whats the point if everythings similar, its the producers chance to use their imagination. If we wanted to watch something realistic we might as well read journal and manuals or watch documentaries. On a personal opinion i believe SEED is the best


The realism I spoke of was something along the lines of not going into the super powered, unbeatable robot with practically perfect protagonist thing, which was getting old.

08th MS introduced Real Robots further into the realm of realism, with an average protagonist whose team doubted him at first, his love interest is his enemy, relies on what skill and luck he has. Besides, its plot is different from everything else that came before it (creativity at work), it just utilized the same technology base.

But that doesn't explain why its fans are simpletons.

I could say that SeeD fans are simpletons, as its demographic is lower, ripped off plots from previous series and melded them badly, had poor grunt rendering and so on.

You gave a definition of what a simpleton is, but you gave no reasons of why you accused 08th MS fans of being simpletons. I gave reasons for accusing SeeD fans of being simpletons, so what's yours?


As they are both made by the same company they wouldn't be rip-offs of each other. But being newer the older versions are being built upon to create a better series.


They're made by the same company, but not by the same director or production teams. And it would seem to be rip-offs if the new guys don't even adapt the old ideas properly, one example being the concept of "Newtypes", which in the Cosmic Era are rather skewed and not even properly explained. Or the technology base, some of which also aren't explained properly.

Newer is not always better, like in the case with G-Saviour, supposed to be a Universal Century sequel, but it sucked really bad. Or the continuations of some other animations, like ~Remember my memories~ for ToHeart or ~Il Teatrino~ for Gunslinger Girl. Their sequels did no justice in their following.

But this still doesn't explain why you called 08th MS Team fans simpletons.


I called them simpletons simply based on the fact that they are unable to differentiate between what is good or not. They simply enjoy it as it is more tuned to our normal military capabilities. No imagination to realise what is truly better.


its true to be imaginative is good, however overdoing it is not... gundam is a sci-fi, like most sci-fi shows it portrays about the future... could be warfare or the society... if you have watched american sci-fi shows you would see that they are made to be believable and practical in the future... making gundams powerful a bit and a little realistic and believable would make them interesting, however overpowering them is plainly ridiculous... its not that people who are fans of realistic gundam shows are simpletons, they just don't appreciate gundam SEEDs ridiculousness...

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Well..hope there is..any addition to Gundam will surely rox ^^
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hope theres going 2 be another season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i cant wait... it seems like 2009 is so far!!!
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