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Posted 7/26/08
If we're going with the law: Juvenile prison. Because minors should be sentenced under their own laws. You can't just bend it unless there are special circumstances surrounding the case.

In this case, we don't really know the whole facts, for all we know, the kid is deranged or a schizo or whatever who can't stand the person he killed. (And that's why he killed him) I don't really think it's fair to sentence him as an adult at that age, He already has issues and sending him to a place like that at an impressionable age won't make him a better person. (or at least a repentant person) it'll probably just make him worse.

I say juvenile prison (or whatever) till he reaches 18 then he can serve the rest of his sentence in adult prison once he turns legal.
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If he knows what gay means, and has a burning impulse to kill a human being for no other reason than them being gay, try him as an adult.
Shower rape will force him to regret. :D


Not only that... raped because he s new in prison, cause his hair might be curly, his eyes might be the person's favourite colour, cause he is young, cause he is the right shade of colour, no reason at all, his uniform might look cute on him. He don't have to worry about dropping the soap. If he pretty enough someone will bend him over just because they can. He killed the boy for no reason when the boy didn't even kiss him... to anyone's knowledge.... see how he likes prison and if he can take away everyone's life like he took that child's. I applaud that judge.


i will go with him.... sorry ky... but it is a hate crime. besides, juvenile wont help the guy
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c0rin wrote:

If we're going with the law: Juvenile prison. Because minors should be sentenced under their own laws. You can't just bend it unless there are special circumstances surrounding the case.

In this case, we don't really know the whole facts, for all we know, the kid is deranged or a schizo or whatever who can't stand the person he killed. (And that's why he killed him) I don't really think it's fair to sentence him as an adult at that age, He already has issues and sending him to a place like that at an impressionable age won't make him a better person. (or at least a repentant person) it'll probably just make him worse.

I say juvenile prison (or whatever) till he reaches 18 then he can serve the rest of his sentence in adult prison once he turns legal.


Sweetie have you not read the article? The reason the boy was killed was mainly because he had a crush on the murderer. Look it up on Msn. They have a five page article on it. And they were other cases when a minor was charged as an adult.
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blacksheep12 wrote:


fadisha wrote:


h4x0rz wrote:

If he knows what gay means, and has a burning impulse to kill a human being for no other reason than them being gay, try him as an adult.
Shower rape will force him to regret. :D


Not only that... raped because he s new in prison, cause his hair might be curly, his eyes might be the person's favourite colour, cause he is young, cause he is the right shade of colour, no reason at all, his uniform might look cute on him. He don't have to worry about dropping the soap. If he pretty enough someone will bend him over just because they can. He killed the boy for no reason when the boy didn't even kiss him... to anyone's knowledge.... see how he likes prison and if he can take away everyone's life like he took that child's. I applaud that judge.


i will go with him.... sorry ky... but it is a hate crime. besides, juvenile wont help the guy


I know... I want the guy in jail. Fifty one years and more. But they say if he is guilty he faces fifty one years.
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Let's forget about the fact that the kid was gay. Being gay, Asian, black, Muslim, etc should not make the crime that much harsher since there is nothing much worse about hating someone's group, beliefs, etc over hating them. I personally think that it was a very bad thing for the kid to do and I do think the loss of such a deviant individual would help society. However, I think we need to follow the legal system since we're all preaching about corruption and breaking of laws while talking about breaking rules that we personally don't like. That's our own opinion on whatever we think about the law; however, the law is there not to provide a perfect situation to cater to each person's beliefs (which is impossible) but to provide a general understanding for the educated majority.

Do I personally think it would be more satisfying for the kid to go to an adult prison because of the violence and stupidity of his crime? Yes. Do I think it would benefit society as well? Yes. Do I think so because the victim was gay or because it's what the government should do? No.
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Let's forget about the fact that the kid was gay. Being gay, Asian, black, Muslim, etc should not make the crime that much harsher since there is nothing much worse about hating someone's group, beliefs, etc over hating them. I personally think that it was a very bad thing for the kid to do and I do think the loss of such a deviant individual would help society. However, I think we need to follow the legal system since we're all preaching about corruption and breaking of laws while talking about breaking rules that we personally don't like. That's our own opinion on whatever we think about the law; however, the law is there not to provide a perfect situation to cater to each person's beliefs (which is impossible) but to provide a general understanding for the educated majority.

Do I personally think it would be more satisfying for the kid to go to an adult prison because of the violence and stupidity of his crime? Yes. Do I think it would benefit society as well? Yes. Do I think so because the victim was gay or because it's what the government should do? No.


Oh no... I'm not wishing him prison because he killed a gay person... I'm wishing him prison because he was an inconsiderate bitch who killed his own classmate (for however long they were) because his classmate had a crush on him. That's why I wish him prison. You cannot kill someone for liking you.
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Damn........i wouldnt have killed the kid i would have been creeped out but thats about it
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Oh gosh. Haha. I learn something new everyday.


clcik on the link again, and click on the link for 'Goatse'
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Yup, I read it. But I still don't believe in sending him to adult prison until he turns legal. I volunteered for child welfare enough times to see that there will always be children like that and sending them to adult prison is not the best idea.
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wow....prison should loosen him up abit....
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Yup, I read it. But I still don't believe in sending him to adult prison until he turns legal. I volunteered for child welfare enough times to see that there will always be children like that and sending them to adult prison is not the best idea.


Severe, like murder or gang-related, offenses in 44 states of the USA are treated the same as crimes committed by adults: "Beginning around 35 years ago, increases in violent juvenile crime spurred many states to modify laws so that young people could be tried as adults for serious crimes. By 2004, 44 states and the District of Columbia permitted judges to transfer juveniles to adult-criminal courts. No national data exist on the number of juvenile offenders prosecuted as adults." "The main difference between a juvenile court and an adult court in England is that the juvenile court has a much wider jurisdiction in terms of the offenses it can try. It can deal with a juvenile for any offense except homicide, although it is not bound to deal with a young person for a serious offense such as robbery or rape; on such a charge he can be committed to the Crown Court for trial in the same manner as an adult." ------Extracted from a textbook-----
There is no reason this child cannot be one of them.... he murdered... Premeditation.... he thought on his actions before doing it.... you saying this child hould go juvenile court... he went home thought on it and still decided to bring a gun school and shoot him and he should be in juvenile court??... he ain't retarded... he thought like an adult when he thought to kill his classmate let him serve his time as an adult
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fadisha wrote:


tobydiah wrote:

Let's forget about the fact that the kid was gay. Being gay, Asian, black, Muslim, etc should not make the crime that much harsher since there is nothing much worse about hating someone's group, beliefs, etc over hating them. I personally think that it was a very bad thing for the kid to do and I do think the loss of such a deviant individual would help society. However, I think we need to follow the legal system since we're all preaching about corruption and breaking of laws while talking about breaking rules that we personally don't like. That's our own opinion on whatever we think about the law; however, the law is there not to provide a perfect situation to cater to each person's beliefs (which is impossible) but to provide a general understanding for the educated majority.

Do I personally think it would be more satisfying for the kid to go to an adult prison because of the violence and stupidity of his crime? Yes. Do I think it would benefit society as well? Yes. Do I think so because the victim was gay or because it's what the government should do? No.


Oh no... I'm not wishing him prison because he killed a gay person... I'm wishing him prison because he was an inconsiderate bitch who killed his own classmate (for however long they were) because his classmate had a crush on him. That's why I wish him prison. You cannot kill someone for liking you.


I agree. The retarded nature of the crime is what dislikes him even more. It seems so stupid that I wonder if the kid had mental problems to have done it; perhaps, the victim was stalking him and got him so mad or freaked him out into doing something irrational. The kid was probably an idiot though.
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hmmm... im pretty sure that the adults in prison likes them young o0
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He didn't stalk him... gave him a Valentine's Day Card... spread a so-called rumour that they dated and hosted a crush on him... that's it...
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send him to juvie - they got guys in there waiting for him to drop the soap too. and then when the killer turns 18,"congratulations, you are now an adult! now you're going to be taken by a real man!" oh BTW, give him liquid or powdered soap only. jeez, killing in cold blood - skip the assault and go straight to murder. pathetic.
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