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Well, there's gonna be a conflict in that area too. Considering people from some states conflict themselves to which region they're affiliated with. For example, Virginia..............50% of VA considers themselves part of the East Coast realm of hip hop, while the other 50% considers themselves Dirty South soldiers. Then of course, there's the St. Louis argument to whether they're Mid-West or Dirty South
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i was also thinking superstars like Em & 50 etc should have they own topic? then its back to idk, i think we should just keep thing like they are now & when it gets to the point of chaos maybe we might have a solution

UPDATE!
im lookin at rhapsody & thinkin... maybe regional along with a hiphop & RnB......errrrr.... Chart Topping Artists, to encompass a mixed region/genre aspect & whats hot
....so rhapsody is the only credible source i know of on the internet, that & probly itunes

mainly i dont feel lil flip deserves his own topic, lol

UPDATE 2!
also thinking forums.... Hip Hop Before 2Pac and a Hip Hop After 2Pac << soulja boy goes here
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Posted 12/9/07

crasyjak wrote:

UPDATE 2!
also thinking forums.... Hip Hop Before 2Pac and a Hip Hop After 2Pac << soulja boy goes here


Why does it have to be before Tupac? What about Hip Hop Before 50 Cent instead? That's more justifiable, there's an abundant amount of classic shit released after 2Pac prior to 50 Cent's existence into the mainstream
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because 2pac is the central figure of rap & hip hop
1. hes the best of all time (polls dont lie )
2. thousand of people agree that hip hop died w/ pac (of course this can be compromised & debated but its somewhat true)
3. his life/death influenced everybody after him including curtis wackson
4. & hes probly one of the most publicized rappers of all time who really pushed rap into all of america
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crasyjak wrote:

because 2pac is the central figure of rap & hip hop
1. hes the best of all time (polls dont lie )
2. thousand of people agree that hip hop died w/ pac (of course this can be compromised & debated but its somewhat true)
3. his life/death influenced everybody after him including curtis wackson
4. & hes probly one of the most publicized rappers of all time who really pushed rap into all of america


Shit, everyone in the East Coast have said the same thing about Biggie...........and Biggie died after 2Pac. But whatever, I forgot that 90% of the ppl outside of the East Coast was on Pac's d*** when he was alive, so it's w/e.
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crasyjak wrote:

because 2pac is the central figure of rap & hip hop
1. hes the best of all time (polls dont lie )
2. thousand of people agree that hip hop died w/ pac (of course this can be compromised & debated but its somewhat true)
3. his life/death influenced everybody after him including curtis wackson
4. & hes probly one of the most publicized rappers of all time who really pushed rap into all of america


Shit, everyone in the East Coast have said the same thing about Biggie...........and Biggie died after 2Pac. But whatever, I forgot that 90% of the ppl outside of the East Coast was on Pac's d*** when he was alive, so it's w/e.


2pac made Biggie famous outside of NY .... but hip hop before & after biggie & pac is cool i dont hate on big
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Posted 12/9/07

crasyjak wrote:


big_j_gangsta wrote:


crasyjak wrote:

because 2pac is the central figure of rap & hip hop
1. hes the best of all time (polls dont lie )
2. thousand of people agree that hip hop died w/ pac (of course this can be compromised & debated but its somewhat true)
3. his life/death influenced everybody after him including curtis wackson
4. & hes probly one of the most publicized rappers of all time who really pushed rap into all of america


Shit, everyone in the East Coast have said the same thing about Biggie...........and Biggie died after 2Pac. But whatever, I forgot that 90% of the ppl outside of the East Coast was on Pac's d*** when he was alive, so it's w/e.


2pac made Biggie famous outside of NY .... but hip hop before & after biggie & pac is cool i dont hate on big


Yes, but I'm disgusted @ putting Biggie, Jay Z & Nas in the same category as Soulja Boy. I'm more comfortable with shoving him in a category with 50 instead
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Yes, but I'm disgusted @ putting Biggie, Jay Z & Nas in the same category as Soulja Boy. I'm more comfortable with shoving him in a category with 50 instead


Jay & Nas are both on the decline, i love nas never been a jay z dickrider, but its history & i dont like adjusting history to make anyone feel better, besides atleast the post big & pac wont be a total travesty, ether vs takeover, the rise of the south, eminem ahhhh... dont let soulja boy ruin all of that
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crasyjak wrote:
besides atleast the post big & pac wont be a total travesty, ether vs takeover, the rise of the south, eminem ahhhh... dont let soulja boy ruin all of that


I won't.........the younger generation has already done that for me
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crasyjak wrote:

i was also thinking superstars like Em & 50 etc should have they own topic? then its back to idk, i think we should just keep thing like they are now & when it gets to the point of chaos maybe we might have a solution

UPDATE!
im lookin at rhapsody & thinkin... maybe regional along with a hiphop & RnB......errrrr.... Chart Topping Artists, to encompass a mixed region/genre aspect & whats hot
....so rhapsody is the only credible source i know of on the internet, that & probly itunes

mainly i dont feel lil flip deserves his own topic, lol

UPDATE 2!
also thinking forums.... Hip Hop Before 2Pac and a Hip Hop After 2Pac << soulja boy goes here


Hey craz J... i know im not a mod... but i have a suggestion about the hip hop before and after 2 pac...... His dead didnt make a lot of impact on the actual music that was produced... after the introduction of G-Funk around 1997 The years of hip hop golden age was over.... Since then The popularity of Rap (not hip hop) in the commercial buisness grew bigger and bigger ... So if u want to make a poll out of it ...
I would suggest Making it a poll about Hip Hop in the golden age.. and Hip hop after Golden age period... Since in my eyes after that a lot Changed the majority shit changed from hip hop to rap.... so let me think af u think of it.... (i dont know a lot of new ish hip hop... im specialised in Golden Age stuff and never get any further then that cause moslty i hear somethign new.. its significantly different then the Old stuff that was going on... off course thats also have to do with evolving. like u see in all kinds of music )

i dont think 2 pac has anything to do with that so let me know what u think of it :p
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Also, why not make an archives for all the posts that go dead after so many days. Lol, like my Favorite Music Video thread, I just can't believe no one has a favorite video, but back to my point, there is just so many things that you can say about Soulja boy before people stop talking about him, and after so many days with some of these post, why not just make one post to stick all the dead post in there? That way before anyone wants to make a new topic or just remembered something they wanted to type on a old topic, they can just go in the Archive post to do that. Because I do not think it is fair to trying to categorized all these muscians when there is so many. Also, no one can't really create any more post if you just going to create main posts for all the music artist, to me personally I don't care who is westside, northside, frontside, or etc, lol. Besides, just because someone does not feel like one artist deserves their own post, does not mean everyone feels that they do not deserve it, we all have our own opinions on who we think is the best or not, because I doublt everyone in this group would vote for the same one artist being the best there is, everyone is going to have different opinions. So, why not just leave the forums as they are, and then stick a Archive "Dead posts" post in the forums, so posts that have not been responded to in so many days can go in there instead? Hope that made sense, and sorry if no one wanted my opinions, lol.
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Bramboe wrote:

Hey craz J... i know im not a mod... but i have a suggestion about the hip hop before and after 2 pac...... His dead didnt make a lot of impact on the actual music that was produced... after the introduction of G-Funk around 1997 The years of hip hop golden age was over.... Since then The popularity of Rap (not hip hop) in the commercial buisness grew bigger and bigger ... So if u want to make a poll out of it ...
I would suggest Making it a poll about Hip Hop in the golden age.. and Hip hop after Golden age period... Since in my eyes after that a lot Changed the majority shit changed from hip hop to rap.... so let me think af u think of it.... (i dont know a lot of new ish hip hop... im specialised in Golden Age stuff and never get any further then that cause moslty i hear somethign new.. its significantly different then the Old stuff that was going on... off course thats also have to do with evolving. like u see in all kinds of music )

i dont think 2 pac has anything to do with that so let me know what u think of it :p



I do know the difference between Hip Hop & Rap, however the shift from one to the other isnt exactly clear at times, Pac & Nas both were more Hip Hop MC's than Rappers, but of course as Pac progressed he became more of a Rapper.

2. 2Pac & Big died around '96 - '97 so that overlaps the end of G-Funk era

3. Its not so much the death of Pac that changed Hip hop its Pac's whole career, the East vs West beef had so many reprocussions that shaped how rap is today, including making it more appealing than hip hop....there are many more reasons but dont feel like writing an essay

4. gotta remember the average CR user is a teenager so do u think they remember Sugarhill gang....hell im 20 & dont relly know much that was made during the 80's, but u can also argue that NWA changed hip hop to rap? or atleast started it
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Also, why not make an archives for all the posts that go dead after so many days. Lol, like my Favorite Music Video thread, I just can't believe no one has a favorite video, but back to my point, there is just so many things that you can say about Soulja boy before people stop talking about him, and after so many days with some of these post, why not just make one post to stick all the dead post in there? That way before anyone wants to make a new topic or just remembered something they wanted to type on a old topic, they can just go in the Archive post to do that. Because I do not think it is fair to trying to categorized all these muscians when there is so many. Also, no one can't really create any more post if you just going to create main posts for all the music artist, to me personally I don't care who is westside, northside, frontside, or etc, lol. Besides, just because someone does not feel like one artist deserves their own post, does not mean everyone feels that they do not deserve it, we all have our own opinions on who we think is the best or not, because I doublt everyone in this group would vote for the same one artist being the best there is, everyone is going to have different opinions. So, why not just leave the forums as they are, and then stick a Archive "Dead posts" post in the forums, so posts that have not been responded to in so many days can go in there instead? Hope that made sense, and sorry if no one wanted my opinions, lol.


All i can say is we're workin on it, the problem wit your idea "in theory" is that the 'Dead posts' thread has the potential to become a shit load of work in the future, an old topic once posted in will be 'New' again then its move this change that...urrrgh......Merging topics is working well right now, As far as Individual Artist threads go.....we workin on a solution.........i ACTUALLY didnt want to segregate artist by region, but to quote Aaliyah " We Need a Resolution"..................i respect everyones opinons but if the forms get flooded with individual artist threads then that will 'in theory' discourge the participation in the intelligent threads ie...hip hop & politics.......& having these other topics on the 1st page better portrays what this group is about, becuz its more than music its life..........but this Archive idea does have a few gears turning in my head........
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PROBLEM SOLVED

THANX to InternationalDramaLover for inspiring me - you are on the brink of Genius ....but there can ONLY be 1, me LOL.....just joking

anyway ALL Specific artists Threads are now (and will be) located in the NEW EXTENDED GROUP:

Hidden Sound Village
url is on front page now


MODS: COPY & PASTE WORK from old to new

ME- Chris Brown & Lil Wayne (both done)

JJ- Jay-Z leaves Def Jam... & R Kelly (both done)

Marcell- Black Sheep/Afrika Bambata & Soulja Boy (both done)

Big J- Game, Lil flip & eminem (all done)

Kris- 50 cent (done)




IMPORTANT NOTES when re-creating thread

1. Using "QUOTES" button, then copy & paste is faster

2. Credit the original starter of the Topic at the top of the First Post

3. create link in
SPECIFIC Rappers & Singers Archive Of the NEWLY Relocated thread

4. Delete old topic
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crasyjak wrote:

PROBLEM SOLVED

THANX to InternationalDramaLover for inspiring me - you are on the brink of Genius ....but there can ONLY be 1, me LOL.....just joking



Lol, you are welcome for the inspiration.

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