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i like romance
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A wide, wide, range of things.
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any thing with the girl as a main
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kratos70 wrote:

I agree with you again, in a lot of shojo's the author puts a lot of shonen in the plot also, but in most shonen's there is barely any romance. It has always bugged me



What do you mean by in a lot of shojo's the author puts a lot of shonen in the plot? If you mean action or adventure, they have always been there since the earliest days of shojo manga. I can easily tell a shojo manga from a shonen manga. And there are shojo manga that don't have romance but have only friendship or just hinted shonen-ai or shojo-ai. One example is Tactics. It would have been a shonen manga in the 1980s or 1970s but today it is published in shojo magazines. That's why it is shojo. I don't think the author put a lot of shonen in the plot (they don't "mix" things) because the plot is completely shonen-ish. Actually I think some of today's shonen manga put some shojo elements (e.g. strong character development) in their works. Spiral: the Bonds of Reasoning is an example.

There IS romance in shonen manga. Just look at I"s, Love Hina, To Love Ru and Kage Tora. They are very typical shonen romances. The male lead is usually either dumb or shy. The whole drama is based on his clumsiness or misunderstandings, which really gets old easily. I guess people read them for fan service. The plot is not to be taken seriously. Kage Tora is a romantic comedy that doesn't have fan service so that's why it's not that popular. Sometimes, the male protanonist is a crass guy, like the one in Urusei Yatsura. But that manga is more of a comedy than romance (BTW, I think Ranman 1/2 by the same author is really good and a classic. At least the male protanonist is likable and the whole manga is funny).

The only male protagonist in shonen romance manga that dares to differ is the one in Kyoshiro to Towa no Sora. There are some obvious plot holes in the story, which makes the whole plot a bit senseless. For some weird reason, I do like that story. Even is it is ecchi, it is done tastefully. But I do wish the author had changed a few things to make the plot make more sense. I hope more authors will get inspired by it and create better plots and characters for shonen manga.
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kratos70 wrote:

I agree with you again, in a lot of shojo's the author puts a lot of shonen in the plot also, but in most shonen's there is barely any romance. It has always bugged me



What do you mean by in a lot of shojo's the author puts a lot of shonen in the plot? If you mean action or adventure, they have always been there since the earliest days of shojo manga. I can easily tell a shojo manga from a shonen manga. And there are shojo manga that don't have romance but have only friendship or just hinted shonen-ai or shojo-ai. One example is Tactics. It would have been a shonen manga in the 1980s or 1970s but today it is published in shojo magazines. That's why it is shojo. I don't think the author put a lot of shonen in the plot (they don't "mix" things) because the plot is completely shonen-ish. Actually I think some of today's shonen manga put some shojo elements (e.g. strong character development) in their works. Spiral: the Bonds of Reasoning is an example.

There IS romance in shonen manga. Just look at I"s, Love Hina, To Love Ru and Kage Tora. They are very typical shonen romances. The male lead is usually either dumb or shy. The whole drama is based on his clumsiness or misunderstandings, which really gets old easily. I guess people read them for fan service. The plot is not to be taken seriously. Kage Tora is a romantic comedy that doesn't have fan service so that's why it's not that popular. Sometimes, the male protanonist is a crass guy, like the one in Urusei Yatsura. But that manga is more of a comedy than romance (BTW, I think Ranman 1/2 by the same author is really good and a classic. At least the male protanonist is likable and the whole manga is funny).

The only male protagonist in shonen romance manga that dare to differ is the one in Kyoshiro to Towa no Sora. There are some obvious plot holes in the story, which makes the whole plot a bit senseless. For some weird reason, I do like that story. Even is it is ecchi, it is done tastefully. But I do wish the author had changed a few things to make the plot make more sense. I hope more authors will get inspired by it and create better plots and characters for shonen manga.



Well I was in no way saying all shonen's are this and all shojo's are this. I just find that most shonen's don't have detailed romances where shojo's almost always have more than just a relationship. But you obciously know way more about this than me because there is NO WAY I can come up with 3 paragrahps of stuff to talk about.
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kratos70 wrote:

Well I was in no way saying all shonen's are this and all shojo's are this. I just find that most shonen's don't have detailed romances where shojo's almost always have more than just a relationship. But you obciously know way more about this than me because there is NO WAY I can come up with 3 paragrahps of stuff to talk about.


Hehe, I do have a good shojo manga to recommend - Zig Zag Don by Ishida Takumi. It's quite a realistic romance story. I can compare it with shonen romance like I''s because the guys in it are ordinary guys who are clueless sometimes (but not THAT clueless and dumb). There are misunderstandings and nudity/sex in it. Unlike I''s, the plot of Zig Zag Don actually progresses. The characters know how to move on and grow to communicate better. That's why reading I''s can be rather annoying to me. I don't see why shonen romance manga cannot have determined and mature male protagonists. It can really educate the readers about something, right? I would really like to see that change.
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romance/comedy hahahahaha
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I like anime with so much violence or content are for more mature content(not porn lol)
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coffeeoverwater wrote:


kratos70 wrote:

Well I was in no way saying all shonen's are this and all shojo's are this. I just find that most shonen's don't have detailed romances where shojo's almost always have more than just a relationship. But you obciously know way more about this than me because there is NO WAY I can come up with 3 paragrahps of stuff to talk about.


Hehe, I do have a good shojo manga to recommend - Zig Zag Don by Ishida Takumi. It's quite a realistic romance story. I can compare it with shonen romance like I''s because the guys in it are ordinary guys who are clueless sometimes (but not THAT clueless and dumb). There are misunderstandings and nudity/sex in it. Unlike I''s, the plot of Zig Zag Don actually progresses. The characters know how to move on and grow to communicate better. That's why reading I''s can be rather annoying to me. I don't see why shonen romance manga cannot have determined and mature male protagonists. It can really educate the readers about something, right? I would really like to see that change.


You keep referring to the I''s, what are they? But I will check out Zig Zag Don as soon as I can.
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comedy / romance / harem... (maybe some ecchi or.. magic added into?)
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kratos70 wrote:

You keep referring to the I''s, what are they? But I will check out Zig Zag Don as soon as I can.


It's a shonen romance manga (a very typical one) by Katsura Masakazu.

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coffeeoverwater wrote:


kratos70 wrote:

You keep referring to the I''s, what are they? But I will check out Zig Zag Don as soon as I can.


It's a shonen romance manga (a very typical one) by Katsura Masakazu.




Oh, as for Zig Zag Don do you think the anime or the shojo is better, generally I like the shojo's more as mangas.
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kratos70 wrote:

Oh, as for Zig Zag Don do you think the anime or the shojo is better, generally I like the shojo's more as mangas.


It's only manga (6 volumes). There is no anime. Like I said most shojo romance manga would make me close the book within 20 pages bcause they are either cheesy or cliched (like rich play boys, bad boys, etc). Many authors just don't write interesting and new dialogs and plots. I think they are more suitable for curious young audience not mature audience like me. I find most of the manga that attract me are shonen, josei and occasionally seinen rather than shojo, but it realy depends on the title. And I don't usually read romance manga but I do like a few josei and shojo manga that are have a relatively realistic feel or dare to be different from the rest. Have you read any of Yoshihara Yuki's manga? I like at least 3 of her works. I wouldn't call them romance but comedy. The plots may not be taken seriously but her jokes are really hilarious, refreshing and relaxing.
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Posted 10/3/08
Shoujo-ai/Yuri ftw~
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shojo, comedy, romance, action, .... sports???
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