Soran Ibrahim/Setsuna + 00 Gundam Vs Kira Yamato + Strike Freedom

With the GN particles...Dragoon is practically useless
with TransAm it can own Kira easily even if kira was a perfect...
but Kira won't die...he will only be defeated as the exploding of strike freedom has not enough heat to burn him down

Which is why I said their skills are inconsistent...

The innovators weren't born with the ability of quantum brainwaves. They used GN-particles as a catalysis to earn the quantum brainwaves ability.

While super soldiers like Marie (Sp?) and Allelujah Haptism are man made into having quantum brainwaves powers or something along those lines...

That prodigence has some messed up thinking... How does he come into an conclusion that Mobile Suit Gundam 00 and Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny are related in the same world, when clearly once is in CE world and the other is in AD world

Setsuna would own kira's ass even without trans-am he was trained since childhood and besides kira's an emo that doesn't know how to deal with his problems.setsuna would do seven swords attack and boom bye bye kira and yes i'm a fan of both but seriously setsuna has more experience

Setsuna wins this battle. With the combined powers of 00 and 0-Raiser, 00-Raiser uses Trans-Am to its fullest, making it the best machine ever. Super DRAGOON System were now sluggish due to 00-Raiser's ability to move faster than light.

And where the fuck did you get the idea that 00-Raiser moves faster than light? Unless your talking about the Quantomnization(sp is wrong I know) he used against Revive.

I don't know where you get your facts but Setasuna barely did any real refined combat training. All the training Setasuna had in his childhood was to pull a trigger and to act guerrilla-like. That's not really training dude, anyone with an able body can do this ...

No offensive, but your claim about 00 w/0 Raiser going beyond the speed of light is not only exaggerated, its also wrong.

The only mobile suit to potentially reach to speed of light is the Stargazer Gundam.



The second fastest Gundam would definitely be V2 Gundam (Victory2 Gundam). Supposedly being able to reach to the speed of sound or at least close to it.

With the Assault pack



and without the Assault pack



lastly I like to add...

Funnels > Mobile bits > GN Fangs/Shield bits > DRAGOONs

1)Being guerilla isnt something anyone can do without training.
2)It is official information that Setsuna had extensive training 1-2 years to pilot Exia.He even got himself into mock-fight duel with Tieria...as a result of the Tieria's "you are not worthy blah blah" stuff.


Theoretically,yes.However,with the speed of its acceleration it will take a decade or two of uninterrupted acceleration to reach speed close to that(well maybe an exaggiration,but one gets the point)...and thats only in space...and objects can accelerate in space endlessly anyway>.>

Hey not anybody can drive a gundam and be a guerilla and second of all none of those gundams can use Quantization and if u dont know what that is look it up in an enciclopedia is derived from quantum which is latin for cuanto which is spanish for how many it is the ability to look up all the particles that makes up something and move it somewhere else or something like that I totally forgot anyway thats better than the speed of light thats a theory of existence itself 00 raiser kicks victory and stargazers gundam's ass

1) Which is why I said anyone with an able body can do it as long as they have an able body, enough training time, and not to mention forcefully/willing to think their efforts are going to change something

2) He was referring to Setasuna's childhood years. By the time he was recruited by Celestial Beings, he was already a teenager (a young one that is).



Yea I know, I was just too lazy to add that downfall of the Stargazer's speed.

definately setsuna

Let me clarify something... ANYONE can be a guerrilla as long as they have an able body, enough training time, and not to mention forcefully/willing to think their efforts are going to change something. Plus in your first post you were referring to his childhood years nothing about his teenage years when he gets recruited by the Celestial Beings.

Oh watch the anime and read some information (on Stargazer & V2) before deciding 00 w/0 Raiser can kick both Stargazer's and V2's asses.

Well all of you are right. Well it's only my "opinion" okay. Haven't you watched Episode 12 that the 00-Raiser can destroy two GNZ units of the Innovators and its GN Sword/Rifle II shots are spread shots.

The Twin Drive System is the newest system afterall, and the dispersed of GN Particles were exceeded beyond comprehension while combining the 0-Raiser.
At first, the Twin Drive, while activating Trans-Am System increases the power but causes an overload to the unit.



If combining all those opinions, what is the result to that?

I have no problem with opinions, its just that your claims were wrong and I felt like correcting them.

Hey at least I addressed you maturely.