Soran Ibrahim/Setsuna + 00 Gundam Vs Kira Yamato + Strike Freedom

the GN drives have shown to be just as powerful as past nuclear powered gundams unless u only saw SEED you would not ALL other Mobiles Suits from All other shows are nuclear but the Turn-A. the 00 gundam has its power squared that of the other Gundams.

I Meant Freedom as in ZGMF-X10A Freedom because it's Kira's second Gundam and 00 is Setsuna's 2nd gundam

Setsuna would win duh, I mean can the crap freedom make nice sparkle effects? NO!

3rd or 15th,X20A is a lot more suitible competitor then X10A.I doubt the old Freedom will manage well against 00.

Well the match might be interesting.

While the GN particles are a pain in the ass and a big problem for SF we have to face the facts.

Even if setsuna was a soldier all his life. Hes a shitty pilot. The only thing saving his ass is the superiority of his suit ^^

As shown many times in season 1.

There is a thing called growth that Setsuna went through.All pilots are like this at the start,but as plot progresses they become more skillfull.

Kira is a shitty pilot to and relies on a over powered MS even more so. dont forget that C.E. grunts dont fight back or try to dodge and counter they just sit still. the grunts form 00 maneuver counter fighting back plus the GN-X is a match against the Gundams not sitting ducks like the Zaku rip offs

Point taken.

They are both shitty pilots XD

however just to throw a complete twist on things, i do think Heero Yui would beat either of them with Wing Zero. Heck, he could probly win with gundam 01.

Well yea out of the 3 of them Heero is the only person who actually was trained for mobile suit combat.

Loved how he kicked ass with a Leo ^^

IDK its kinda hard to say I would have to see like whats on the line and where they are fighting! Because Kira changes and so dose Setsuna.

Actually Setsuna DID recieve training,before being commisioned to Exia.

Srsly though, I have no idea what Setsuna has changed in character maybe he only has changed in his mindset but his actions and plans are the same as before...

I wonder if anyone has said this (too lazy to read all the posts in this thread) - Kira and Setsuna's talents and ability in operating a gundam are attained differently. As we all know, Kira is an Ultimate Coordinator so his talent in that is simply overwhelming and he can use Freedom well... then he did not practice much with his gundam, only using them in battles unlike Setsuna who is indeed trained from young in combat. So I think Setsuna will be more likely to win over Kira than vice versa.

Gundam 00 vs Freedom though... they shld be quite on par but i like the former better (with its Twin Drive which is simply cool to watch!)

kira forever!!!! :D

shame on Kira if he loses to Setsuna, he has all the advantage...
strike freedom has so many weapons compare to that of 00's...
Kira is the ultimate coordinator +seed mode while Setsuna is just a human +trans-arm system...
but i think Setsuna will put up a close fight...