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Post Reply Soran Ibrahim/Setsuna + 00 Gundam Vs Kira Yamato + Strike Freedom
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come on, you cant possibly compare exia from year 2013 to fight S. Freedom from year 2102

1)Here,against SF we have 00 Gundam,not Exia.
2)Events of Gundam 00 take place in 2307 AD,where do you get 2013 from,is obscure to me.
3)Where the hell did you get CE 73 being 2012 from?
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For firepower it would be the Strike Freedom hands down. For maneuverability, the Exia. Can the Strike Freedom match the Exia in melee combat? I think not, you know any fight with the Exia comes down to melee! So that leaves the pilots......... Kira vs Setsuna. Kira wins easily, he is the ultimate super soldier after all. Seems like a tie to me. Which makes me think, could Kira beat Hallelujah?
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Based on my observation, if Setsuna doesn't manage to use trans am, he'll most likely bite the dust, because of the fact that Kira is a coordinator and has the SEED factor, that further enhances his reaction and thinking. But if Soran does activate the Trans Am, he'll most likely win, even if Kira is in SEED mode because of the insane speed and reaction granted by the Trans Am on the mech itself. And even if Kira does manage to keep track of him, his mech probably won't. That's from my point of view BTW.

Also, I think the more appropriate subject would be Allelujah vs. Kira, as both pilots are artificially enhanced O.o That's just my opinion though
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Posted 10/9/08 , edited 10/9/08

psychonerv wrote:

the 00 gundam's ability is not yet been seen, though it is clearly seen that its a much more powerful ms compared to exia.

but I think that exia has a chance against freedom, even with s.freedom i think setsuna has a chance.

the variable phase shift is a non-factor against beam weaponry, even if the gn blades and swords can't dent the vps, i think it'll give a good whack on the sf.

dragoons are not really a factor, since setsuna has faced the gn fangs of the throne zwei, so remote weapons will not be at an advantage of the sf

setsuna will probably force this encounter to a melee battle, thanks to the trans-am, even if kira goes seed, the exia will have an advantage on speed, though it may be a different story if kira goes seed, if he can't shoot it down, why bother shooting.

but it kira gets the emogodlikecantshootmedownprotagonist plot hack armor, it a different story

though if they release a gundam g generation with 00 and seed/destiny, well have a good answer to who is better Image



tell that to Nu Gundam... it'll fucking rape both of them with its Fin Funnels, but since we're not comparing Nu Gundam I'll just leave it at that.

debating about Gundam 00 and Strike Freedom seem pointless atm since we havent even seen any of Gundam 00's abilities. lets just discuss about Exia VS Strike Freedom instead.

If the battle was just the Freedom VERSUS Exia... no doubt about it that Exia would win, but if the Battle were Exia versing against Strike Freedom... I dont think Exia would stand a chance ...

Before u ppl start to flame me on my stupidity, I like to tell you ppl that I personally LOATHED Mobile Suit Gundam SEED DESTINY, Kira's wishy washy crap, and retarded Fuko's stupid plot hax armour.

Lets think logically ppl...

Exia may have the Trans-Am function, but lets not forget it is time limited. Thus after upon usage Exia's performance will go down and it also take a while for Setasuna to be able to use Trans-Am once again.

Now for Jesus Kira's SEED mode. last time I check it was infinite. once ppl who goes in SEED mode, it doesnt deactivated until the battle is over and dont forget about Strike Freedom's ridiculous amount of fire power

the way i see things, Kira could easily beat Exia by gunning it down from a distance... even if Exia goes to Trans-Am mode, Kira would go SEED mode and continue on staying on the defensive side while trying to distract Exia with his beam rifles/cannons/railguns and DRAGOONs just long enough for the Trans-Am to wear off... after this task is complete, it'll be easy pickings for the Strike Freedom.

but since this is Kira we're talking about... i dont think he be smart enough of thinking about sumthing this deep even if he is the so called "Ultimate Coordinator" .
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As much as i like the idea of putting these guys to fight each other. I don't think it'll be a fair match. Kira a coordinator against a normal person Setsuna seems really unfair. But lets say you wanna pit againts mobile suits (Now thats more feasible and fair)
Assuming you are taking Freedom and Exia (both of which have very different purposes Freedom being a mid range suit and Exia a melee combat suit) then we'll have a dog fight full of chasing and dodging. And if you were to take Strike Freedom and Gundam 00 (Also mid range and i think melee) it'll still be same. But chances are is that if the two were to engage in melee combat without a doubt both Exia and Gundam 00 would win (size of the blade >_<) but with sheer fire power and range of Freedom and Strike Freedom poor Exia and Gundam 00 would be heavily damage or destroyed...

Well going back to topic, since this is a Forum topic between two pilots i would have my bets on Kira (though i don't really like him that much) as he seems to be more combat capable.
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Posted 10/10/08

andydono wrote:

tell that to Nu Gundam... it'll fucking rape both of them with its Fin Funnels, but since we're not comparing Nu Gundam I'll just leave it at that.



Yeah, I'm with you if that challenge ensues.

I did only state the remote weapons, because it can't be used as a surprise attack advantage on Setsuna, because he encountered it already, BUT this all depends on who's using remote weapons, especially if it's Amuro.

because i believe that newtypes are far more superior to coordinators and of course, against normal humans.

I have nothing against Mobile Suits of Seed Destiny, The only thing is that fans think that it the most powerful ms when clearly its not.

Again, this issue can be solved if they release a g generation game with seed destiny and 00 in it.
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Posted 10/11/08
if you exchange pilots, setsuna in the strike freedom and kira in the exia or the oo gundam...who will win?
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Posted 10/11/08 , edited 10/11/08
Let's put this in simple terms.... neither pilots can die... they can both survive freakish explosions that should have killed normal characters and etc.

Kira is definitely the better pilot since he is the ultimate coordinator... I mean the closest person to Kira would be Athrun and Athrun can match a gundam in a zaku... Kira's specialty other than being an aimbot is the ultimate slice and dice while dodging everything, if I remember correctly, that's how both SEED and destiny ended with Kira slicing up the enemies...
Setsuna's specialty is charging headfirst and getting nearly defeated by inferior units like the flag and Enact... though he really improved near the end but that's just because his opponents were either really crazy or really crappy and cocky.

If you haven't already noticed, Kira's Freedom and S. Freedom never get damaged in battle because he dodges everything while Setsuna is always losing parts...

Suit wise, it's nuclear power v.s. GN power... both are powerful as hell and can blow up warships but I personally think, S. Freedom on Meteor with his giant blades is better than gundam 00 on GN arms since the firepower enough to take out an army. And I wouldn't call S. Freedom slow... consider the descent from space, can you imagine how fast that is?

Of course, most people don't like Kira because he's too damn invincible but honestly, plot wise he was made to be perfect so go figure...
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Its just so unfair, Kira is too hax with Fukuda and his wife backing him up with all those lasers, he didn't even die from the god damn explosion when Shinn stabbed him, and Shinn was suppose to be one of the best, but Athrun and Kira could own him so easily >_>.

I vote for Setsuna F Sei though, becaus unlike Kira he doesn't have the "no kill policy"
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Posted 10/12/08

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come on, you cant possibly compare exia from year 2013 to fight S. Freedom from year 2102

1)Here,against SF we have 00 Gundam,not Exia.
2)Events of Gundam 00 take place in 2307 AD,where do you get 2013 from,is obscure to me.
3)Where the hell did you get CE 73 being 2012 from?




while there is a means to convert ad to uc (2078AD = 0001UC). none of the other timelines have ever been adequately explained
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Posted 10/12/08
I just seen how 00 Gundam works out so I just say its about dead even on both sides. Though I lean towards Setsuna
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Posted 10/12/08 , edited 10/12/08
I just don't plain like the fact a ton of people got their cockpits stabbed by GN weapons and are all alive. Even though they all blew up... we even saw a huge GN explosion on part of Setsuna... those don't usually happen unless a GN drive explodes, which is why I think Setsuna is haxors since he's a normal human... Kira... I'll let him off since he can survive temperatures of several hundred degrees, but Setsuna is very much human. He somehow survives in space alone with a machine that's completely broken without any help from other CB people and even put the head back on his gundam though the arm was gone for good apparently.
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Setsuna was seen floating in space at the end of season 1. He was still alive at that time. Allso the guy in the flag was allso still alive and is currently the guy with the black mask.

In any case regarding the topic. If Setsuna wouldnt kill Kira with the Trans-AM activated then Kira wouldnt really have a hard time. Afterall Freedom has lots of ranged fire capability. And from what ive seen from 00 its similar to Exia. A close ranged type.
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Posted 10/12/08
Depends,does Kira have his plot shield?If so.Kira.If not,Setsuna F***ing Seiei.
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ahahaha, OO gundam is so haxors, he should have just taken out that A-LAWS ship right there and a huge problem would already be solved rofl.
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