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Post Reply Spirits/ghosts, angels, and demons. Do they exists?
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I've not personally had a supernatural experience that couldn't be clearly explained away. But the subject used to fascinate me (especially UFOs) until the 'x-files' tv show made it all trendy. Somehow the fun went out of it when I was no longer teased for my obscure knowledge and knowing what roswell was became 'cool'.
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The only thing that gave me a problem was the speed of how fast we have develop electronics at one point in my life. But introspect we can thank the US military for such fast advancement in the field. Their need to stay on top push the industry fast and hard, to come up with innovation in elections to make better war planes and missile .
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

I've not personally had a supernatural experience that couldn't be clearly explained away. But the subject used to fascinate me (especially UFOs) until the 'x-files' tv show made it all trendy. Somehow the fun went out of it when I was no longer teased for my obscure knowledge and knowing what roswell was became 'cool'.


Hehe.. Well most of the Roswell thing was a CIA miss direction action in order to draw people away from the facts, such as Military experiments into Coil Lift Plains, and stealth Bombers. (Hopefully that is still not under wraps from the Government.) I hate to have them knocking on my door, for letting secrets leak to the public and passably the enemy. But then the Military is responsible for fucking over some of my friends, and my cozen. So F4ck the power! F4ck the Military!
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From my experience with the occult I can tell you that demons, angels, and gods do exist. Ghosts are also real but their existence is a mystery to everyone, if you ask the demons, angels, and gods of the nature of ghosts they'll each give you a different answer. To the Goetic demons a ghost is nothing but an echo, leftover thoughts of a living being however this definition betrays the practice of necromancy
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Hawker wrote:

From my experience with the occult I can tell you that demons, angels, and gods do exist. Ghosts are also real but their existence is a mystery to everyone, if you ask the demons, angels, and gods of the nature of ghosts they'll each give you a different answer. To the Goetic demons a ghost is nothing but an echo, leftover thoughts of a living being however this definition betrays the practice of necromancy




As a person who studied up on both black magic, and other forms of Occult devices, I can say I have never found any evidence to prove of their existence. Hence why I am not just a Atheist to all forms of Gods, but also an Anti-Occult as well.

I have also spent two years in collage studding the Myth of occult/Alchemy Something that is also known as the forefather of my work.
I can even point out to you that the word Gibberish derived from the name of a famous Muslim alchemist known to be out of his mind. (he also believe he could create a philosopher stone, which would combine the mercury and sulfur to make gold..)

Unfortunately their is no evidence for occult superstitions, and so I take the Neutral position of lack of belief until time evidence presents its self.

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Hawker wrote:

From my experience with the occult I can tell you that demons, angels, and gods do exist. Ghosts are also real but their existence is a mystery to everyone, if you ask the demons, angels, and gods of the nature of ghosts they'll each give you a different answer. To the Goetic demons a ghost is nothing but an echo, leftover thoughts of a living being however this definition betrays the practice of necromancy




As a person who studied up on both black magic, and other forms of Occult devices, I can say I have never found any evidence to prove of their existence. Hence why I am not just a Atheist to all forms of Gods, but also an Anti-Occult as well.

I have also spent two years in collage studding the Myth of occult/Alchemy Something that is also known as the forefather of my work.
I can even point out to you that the word Gibberish derived from the name of a famous Muslim alchemist known to be out of his mind. (he also believe he could create a philosopher stone, which would combine the mercury and sulfur to make gold..)

Unfortunately their is no evidence for occult superstitions, and so I take the Neutral position of lack of belief until time evidence presents its self.



Have you actually tried to perform any of the rituals instead of being an armchair occultist? The experience is unique for every person and complex rituals shouldn't be performed until one is grounded in the basics.

The nature of madness has long been known since ancient times. Plato distinguished two types of mania in the Phaedrus: one arising from human disease, and the other from a divine state. He goes on to state,"In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift."

It's well known throughout the occult community that many occult texts that claim ancient lineage are the work of falsehoods and lies like the Lesser Keys of Solomon or the Simon Necronomicon, but the truth isn't important its the idea and what it can offer the occultist that drives many to its use. To use lies to reveal the truth, that is occultism in a nut shell.
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Posted 8/15/10
i don't know where every that thing really exisit.......but we live at this world not only us
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i don't know where every that thing really exisit.......but we live at this world not only us


Our brains receive over 11 millions of bits of information every second, from the eye, skin, ear, nose, and mouth. But our consciousness can only process about 40 bits per second at most, the average is about 1-16bits per second. That tiny amount of information is what we call reality or in occult circles known as the "consensus reality"
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Well I never came across anything out of the ordinary. I honestly want to believe such things exist, but I want to experience it myself, so it's hard. I guess so far right now I sort of think they do exist. Do weird or creepy feelings count as sensing spirits or something? Because sometimes when I'm alone I get crept out for no reason and I think something is going to pop out of nowhere.
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Yes do exist it those unexplained sound you hear at night. Best check under your bed before you go to sleep Freddy there a stuffed teddy bear ready to chew up in the middle of the night. Make sure your closet door are locked up there always something in there that wants to kill and eat you. Maybe a giant spider with ten inch fangs the venom just paralyze you and your are consumed still being able to fell every thing that happens.That sound in the acetic or basement just a dead evil sprite that want to rip up and through body parts all over they place. Or maybe they drag you to hell and ever one that knew you forgets that you ever existed.
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Of course they exist! If you all around you, and you see a fella with no feet, chances, dear, are ten to one that man's a ghost. Similarly, if you see a fella with cloven feet, you have just encountered a demon.
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No, I do not believe ghosts/demons/spirits exist. To quote Christopher Hitchens, 'What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.'
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Some things are only visible to faith.
If them psychiatrists believe that seeing these stuffs are nothing but a product of our colorful imaginations, then that's it, and if the people of God believe that angels and demons and spirits and whatnot truly exists [claiming that they've seen them], it's not like we can convince them to follow what we believe in. We all have different opinions, that's why no one can really claim that they are right. ._.
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Some things are only visible to faith.
If them psychiatrists believe that seeing these stuffs are nothing but a product of our colorful imaginations, then that's it, and if the people of God believe that angels and demons and spirits and whatnot truly exists [claiming that they've seen them], it's not like we can convince them to follow what we believe in. We all have different opinions, that's why no one can really claim that they are right. ._.


I agree with you, you can't force someone or in general convince someone to abandon a belief. However, I'd say most non-believers in ghosts /angels/demons et cetera aren't saying there aren't any 100% but are asking for proof.

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No, I do not believe ghosts/demons/spirits exist. To quote Christopher Hitchens, 'What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.'


Hmmmmm......... Then I guess it depends on ones definition of evidence!
For some it is, & only is the physically tangible, in your hand evidence. For others it has to be the formula in mathematical equations which comes out in an equality agreed to by their peers. Others may claim their gut instinct, intuition-- when it, indeed, turns out to be the expected outcome.
Me? I'm still waiting for an encounter with an alien from outer space...... my gut tells me there has to be other life forms in God's great universe. ( Ooops! --did I venture into another forum discussion?)
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