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Post Reply Spirits/ghosts, angels, and demons. Do they exists?
Posted 10/10/11
I think there real! c:
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Posted 10/12/11
FUCK!!!!!! NO!!!!
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Posted 10/17/11
For me, I think they are real. I believe they exist during the Ancient times, but now the world has modernized, it seems like people have forgotten about them. So, i guess if you come from a very spiritual religion, you believe in it. But it all depends on your theory and your own belief. Whether you believe about their existence if all up to you, but from where I come from... we do crazy stuff and we are very tie to the spiritual world. So, you could believe that they are real or not, its all up to you.
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Posted 10/18/11
Having seen one.. I do believe that ghosts exist (or atleast in my case it was a doppelganger)

Then again it only was once, and it was in Asia, in a place known to have been a place where prisoners of war died..
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Posted 11/28/11 , edited 11/28/11
What is it to become a ghost, though? The process itself has me confused beyond belief. People tell me that in order for people to become ghosts, they need to be “so-and-so” (insert qualifications for becoming a ghost). Even if that were true, and people magically knew what it took for the dead to take on an ephemeral form, how would the body know these conditions? I find it hard to believe that my body is capable of recognizing that I still have lingering feelings, have committed evil deeds, wish to stay behind, or any other absurd ideas others may have for people becoming ghosts — after I’ve already died. If the process is not a bodily function, then the only other explanation is that an outside force is turning people into ghosts. The thing is, I don’t see what purpose that would serve. At all. Others argue that if you honestly wish to become a ghost, then you will. I’m sorry, but how does that even begin to make sense? It’s as absurd as having superhero-like powers… simply because you wished for them.

Another thing that piques my interests, is the concept of human ghosts and animal ghosts. Where are the insect ghosts? Alien ghosts? Fish ghosts? Flower ghosts? Tomato ghosts? Does one need a certain amount of intelligence, or possess the ability to think? A soul may be reasonable — but there is no definite way of determining which living beings are in possession of a soul or not — we cannot overvalue our judgement. Where is the line drawn? “Sorry, thing. Your species is actually not mentally capable of becoming a ghost. Tough luck.”

Are there alien (anything beyond Earth) ghosts? What are a ghost’s limitations? Are they (magically) bound and confined to an area, or are they free to sift throughout the universe as they please? If it’s the latter, then I again ask — where are the alien ghosts? Surely human/earthly beings are not the ‘chosen species’. Our narcissism can only go so far.

And what about the ghosts that have made appearances before people? Scared people, helped people, communicated with people, and injured people? Aren’t these occurrences far too rare? Think about the number of living beings whom have died since the beginning of time — even if 1% of these beings had become ghosts, Earth should be crawling with these lingering spirits. Don’t you think you’d want to try creating a ruckus at least once if you were to become a ghost? I know I would.
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Posted 11/30/11
Maybe, maybe not. They may exist, but there must be sound evidence to back everything up.
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Posted 11/30/11
A lot of you mention "evidence" and how we cannot "sense" ghosts... but how do you know that our senses are reliable? We only have 5 of them. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there. Are human beings all-powerful and all-knowing? Scientific reasoning/proof has led to discoveries in the past, but how do you know that this method is the answer to everything?
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Posted 12/7/11
In all honesty i find it hard to believe they actually exist, i mean i'd love it if they did, they would make the world a much more interesting place, but it just seems so unlikely and there isn't any hard evidence to back it up.
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Posted 3/11/12
I had an experience at my sisters college (mental institution turned college from when they used to force people for even being drunks) and I had two different experiences...worst days ever T_T I'm easily frightened...at those times I was trying to keep my cool and btw my sister had night classes then and the office workers had gone home...
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Posted 3/12/12
Yes they exist. I did the mythbuster thing and proved it with multiple witnesses.
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Posted 3/12/12
Never seen any of these supernatural beings, nor do I know of others who have.
Never has there been an accurate historical observation of these beings.
I don't see how they possibily could exist. Basically, I see them as dark age pokemon/yugioh: my satan can defeat your angel gabriel and whatnot.
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Posted 3/13/12
i don't know... but i assume angels and demons exist
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Posted 3/13/12
My hostel is said to be haunted but i never saw any white phantasm of any kind. But i have heard sound of running tap water in empty bathroom.when i opened the door the tap was closed! Kind of creepy but not outright supernatural.
Posted 3/13/12
^^^ And before anyone says anything, it should be noted that Cthulu is an extra-dimensional alien entity with dreams and ambitions beyond the ken of human comprehension, and NOT a demon or spirit, per se.

So, there's no doubt that the Old Ones were, the Old Ones shall be, and in the meantime, the Old Ones will post on Crunchyroll.
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Posted 3/14/12

TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:

A lot of you mention "evidence" and how we cannot "sense" ghosts... but how do you know that our senses are reliable? We only have 5 of them. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there. Are human beings all-powerful and all-knowing? Scientific reasoning/proof has led to discoveries in the past, but how do you know that this method is the answer to everything?


Our senses are unreliable (see optical illusions for example). On the unrelated note: we have way more than 5 senses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense

We do however have things to aid our senses like camera, video recorder, infrared, scientific method etc. There is no empirical evidence for any of the things mentioned here, except personal experience or personal experience from others. These are really an unreliable form of 'evidence' because our senses and understanding of the world around is fundamentally flawed (see confirmation bias, placebo effects etc).

I used to believe in ghosts and spirits up until recently. Upon learning about neuroscience ( how our brain works etc) I gradually came to the conclusion that personal experience/hearsay etc are not a sufficient 'evidence' for anything. See: Thinking, Fast and Slow http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374275637 for example.


Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there


No offence. This line of reasoning is flawed. It's ridiculous to prove something like this. You can't prove that my invisible, pink shoes that are flying above everyone's head right now are not responsible for gravity, oh and no it does not interact with anything. Or unicorns, Thor, Jupiter, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Russel's Teapot etc.

@OP: No, they do not. I can't to a certainty that they don't exist but nothing can be absolutely proved so talking about certainty is nonsensical.

A video explaining why believing without evidence (faith) wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo&list=FLpBcjNY_nr_DRHIDYBP_EUg&index=84&feature=plpp_video [10:06 minutes]

For those who don't have time for a 10-minute video, here is Carl Sagan giving example for using faith: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNoywmfQw4&list=PL30C7E62FB556AB13&index=27&feature=plpp_video [0:44]
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