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Post Reply Spirits/ghosts, angels, and demons. Do they exists?
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I'm the proof

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i think they do exists but i haven't had any experience
i just think they do exist bcoz i know a few who can see them
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To see is to believe.
I've been seeing 3 ghosts in our house since I was in High School. Yep I have a 3rd eye. It's not my imagination nor illusion nor a LIE.
I don't care if people think I'm crazy. I consider this to be a gift.
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The problem with these is that everyone has their own interpretations of what they see or what happen around them. Our senses can trick us. We can also have delusions or hallucinations. People who claim they see ghosts/spirits/whatnot often do not have a proof. They are often alone or in a group when they see it. Surely they can easily fabricate something. They might also be just wanting attention to gain an easy access to the spotlight.
There is a reason why illegal drugs are illegal and why neuroscientists are trying to study the brain. Without knowing the brain to its full capacity, no one will really know what people see or how they interpret.
Also, culture plays a big role. And by culture, I meant interpretations, experiences and, of course, cultural beliefs. A Christian country for example. There is a good chance that a God is true for them. They do not know if that is true but they believe it anyway. Or people who love urban legends, they believe it so much that their brains think they see things. It is comparable to Placebo Effect--believing alone can make you see things. Placebo effect, of course, just means that if you believe you will be cured, there is a higher possibility that you will be.
Anyway, just like any other urban legend, ghosts/spirits/whatnot are falling down to the abyss of uncertainty. They are leaning towards becoming ideas as knowledge progresses. They are only used to scare people to bend to their will; just like the Black Slaves, they were shut in mental darkness so they are easier to control.
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Posted 2/16/09

cerisey wrote:


die-taht wrote:

To see is to believe.
I've been seeing 3 ghosts in our house since I was in High School. Yep I have a 3rd eye. It's not my imagination nor illusion nor a LIE.
I don't care if people think I'm crazy. I consider this to be a gift.


A lot of people claim to see ghosts. But even if you were actually seeing something and it weren't your imagination, what proof is there that it's a ghost? Could be something else, hmmm... *writes out some intense equation to do with parallel worlds and black holes*


Well, strange things happen.
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think angels do,they show up in many different cultures.I dont think its coincidence they all have wings.Ghosts I dont know,never experienced any,but you never know.Derek Achorahs "possesions"with"sam" seem like a load of bull though
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I heard spirits can be seen as orbs, I saw one in a dark room when i was a kid too, freaking scared the hell outta me. I can't say I don't believe them since I'm still scared of the thought, I think my eyes fool me a lot though. You can't explain it without exploring though, if I had stayed in the dark room in my basement and approached the moving orb, maybe I could find things out, but no, it was the furnace room and I was afraid the door would close, I still get chills from thinking about it.
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I used to think I did but I believe it was paranoia induced by the embedded fear from my religion. Now, however, I don't anymore and thankfully I obviated the need to visit a psychiatrist to recover from my coreless fear. XD
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I don't know about angels or demons, but I certainly believe in the existence of ghosts (be they malevolent or benevolent). I don't think there's sucha thing as "black and white" when we think about people or spirits. Only shades of gray. That metaphor meaning, there are no people who are completely bad, or completely good, but have some kind of combination of both in them.

Anyway, while it's true that a lot of paranormal activity captured on film CAN be explained scientifically through light reflections/refractions, and dus particles, there are still some thing captured on video that CANNOT be rationalized through that means. Most people who are like, "Ghosts don't exist, you're crazy" are people who haven't even looked stuff up, done any research, given the idea a fighting chance. It's a lot of ignorance piled up and fortified with a fear that, "Oh, well maybe some things CAN'T be explained, maybe I DON'T have full control over my environment." People are scared of the unknown, that's been a reality since the beginning of time. And so these afraid people (admittedly or not) won't even TRY looking stuff up or do research, because they WANT to believe that they have a firm grip on the idea they have of what is known as "reality". Letting that go is a difficult thing to do.

That being said, I'd like to share with you some of the most famous photographs ever taken in the last 100 years of paranormal activity:



Here's what is says about the picture on the website I found it on: "A ghostly face can be seen in this group photo of R.A.F. Airmen taken in 1919 by Sir Victor Goddard. (R.A.F. officer, retired) Lending credence to the idea that this is a actually a real picture of a ghost is the fact that members of the squadron pictured easily identified the man. It was their fellow airman Freddy Jackson, an air mechanic who had been killed two days earlier in an accident involving an airplane propeller . The man in the close up is located in the top row, fourth from the left. Note the face to the right of the man pictured in the zoom..."

And another one:



I thought this one was creepy, too. Here's the description: "This photo was shot at Boothill Cemetery in Tombstone Arizona by Terry Clanton cousin of the legendary Clanton Gang who shot it out at the OK Corral with the Earps and Doc Holliday. Clanton, also the webmaster of TombstoneArizona.com says "This is the photo that changed my opinion about ghost photos." He insists no one was in the background when the picture was shot. Pictured is a friend of Clantons, the picture was made to look like a old west type photograph."

And lastly:



And again, the quote from the site: "This picture was taken in 1959 by Mrs. Mabel Chinnery apparently no one was in the backseat when the picture was taken. Mrs. Chinnery recognized the person in the backseat as her dead mother whose grave she was just visiting!!! She staked her reputation on the authenticity of the photograph."

Keep in mind, two of these pictures have clear dates on them, LONG before digital photo manipulation was possible. Kinda cool, right? ;)

Mind you, I don't base my entire belief on simply these photographs. Ghosts have been something I've always found fascinating, and have been exposing myself to circumstantial evidence, articles, first-hand stories, and home-made films for several years now. I'd also like to point out that a lot of people who seem to experience ghostly encounters have these when they are either drifting off or out of sleep. IN THESE CASES, THE PERSON WOULD BE EXPERIENCING HYPNAGOGIC HALLUCINATIONS. Or, more commonly known as "night terrors". Night terrors are a fairly common occurance in people of all ages. It's closely related to sleep paralysis, which is a (again, a COMMON) condition in which teh mind makes up before hte body does. Have you ever woken up and felt like your body was just SO HEAVY from fatigue, that you could barely move? That's sleep paralysis. Hypnagogic hallucinations often occur during these events, in which a common hallucination is an old lady. Other people have reported a general sense of unease, or a sinister presence in the room. Again, all three of these sightings/feelings are fairly wide-spread.

And, while scary, these hallucinations during sleep paralysis or night terrors are NOT REAL.

But anyway, I can see both sides of the argument. I have just ARGUED both sides of it right here. But in closing, I could like to point out that while several paranormal experiences can be explained through the things stated above, ther are others that cannot. Perhaps in theory, but not in reality. And that's what has be convinced.
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Posted 3/29/09
yes....when we got to our retreat in our school...a lady praying for me.when im sleeping....
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Posted 3/29/09
i bulive in thm 100 %
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Posted 3/30/09
well maybe i think so..
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Posted 3/30/09
It's a load of bullshit.
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Posted 3/30/09
I've had my encounters before, and I believe in spirits and ghosts and all that jazz
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