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Post Reply Spirits/ghosts, angels, and demons. Do they exists?
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maybe, but there have been people who witnessed a spirit or entity, & have been possessed....how can you explain that?



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They see/feel/hear/etc something that they can't explain, so they come up with an easy explanation. Doesn't mean it's the right explanation, but accepting a false answer is easier than acknowleging that we don't have an answer.


Seeing an odd disturbance in the light and thinking "a spirit must be there" is no different than people long ago who felt the wind and thought "a spirit must be blowing on us." Neither one of them could explain the phenomena, so they made up something, whether it be a conscious or subconscious decision.

Many cases of "possession" turn out to be epilepsy or some type of mental instability.
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Many cases of "possession" turn out to be epilepsy or some type of mental instability.


x] who knows? sometimes doctors make mistakes with those anyway & people are really not sure about this situation like you said....
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i definitely believe in them..angels idk..
but the other yeshh...i know it's crazy but i've felt some presence of like ghosts before..but maybe it's just me being too weird..haha
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Many cases of "possession" turn out to be epilepsy or some type of mental instability.


x] who knows? sometimes doctors make mistakes with those anyway & people are really not sure about this situation like you said....


The people who aren't sure are usually the ones who don't know about neruological or mental disorders. Epilepsy is a pretty unique disorder (or rather a series of disorders), so I don't think it gets mistaken for other ailments by people who know what it is. As for "possessions" that don't involve seizures, a neruoimaging device would probably reveal some time of mental instability.

Being unsure of the situation doesn't mean that the first explanation you think of is the right one.
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mystic17 wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Many cases of "possession" turn out to be epilepsy or some type of mental instability.


x] who knows? sometimes doctors make mistakes with those anyway & people are really not sure about this situation like you said....


The people who aren't sure are usually the ones who don't know about neruological or mental disorders. Epilepsy is a pretty unique disorder (or rather a series of disorders), so I don't think it gets mistaken for other ailments by people who know what it is. As for "possessions" that don't involve seizures, a neruoimaging device would probably reveal some time of mental instability.

Being unsure of the situation doesn't mean that the first explanation you think of is the right one.


thats not what i meant when i said that, but whatever...we're spamming up this thread so lets move on shall we ^-^
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thats not what i meant when i said that, but whatever...we're spamming up this thread so lets move on shall we ^-^


Discussing the topic isn't spamming. So what did you mean?
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mystic17 wrote:

thats not what i meant when i said that, but whatever...we're spamming up this thread so lets move on shall we ^-^


Discussing the topic isn't spamming. So what did you mean?


wow i didn't know you quoted again lol anyway, im done talking about this okie?
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uhh maybe..can't tell
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Nope i don believe in their existence...!!
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I think we just don't understand the true nature of ghosts, spirits etc. But first, angels and demons were just made by society, culture and religion just to show the difference between absolute good and absolute evil which doesn't exist in real life. Ghosts on the other hand, IMO, are psychic attachments of the deceased to the world, nothing spiritual about it.
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I think we just don't understand the true nature of ghosts, spirits etc. But first, angels and demons were just made by society, culture and religion just to show the difference between absolute good and absolute evil which doesn't exist in real life. Ghosts on the other hand, IMO, are psychic attachments of the deceased to the world, nothing spiritual about it.


So if psychic "energy" isn't spiritual, then what is it?
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You can't really say they exist or they don't, but being realistic, they don't. I think our whole fear of the dark, empty spaces and there being presences in them is because as living beings we have an instinct to naturally believe something may be there and to be ready for it. I think the whole idea is cool and great for stories, but what if a person who's actually experienced something exactly as explained from someone who said they'd 'seen a ghost' or 'felt a weird presence' denied that it was a spiritual existence because they were in their right mind and could analyze a situation completely? The entire argument only exists because of uncertainty. We can't exactly deny an existence we can't prove to be wrong because we can't see, smell, touch, hear, taste or in any way really 'sense' them and you can't say they do for the same reasons as well. There are obviously people going to say they had seen, felt, etc. a spirit, but in this topic will exist until the end of time just like religion since there is no proof denying or supporting it, only sources of information which are questionable.
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Kill099 wrote:

I think we just don't understand the true nature of ghosts, spirits etc. But first, angels and demons were just made by society, culture and religion just to show the difference between absolute good and absolute evil which doesn't exist in real life. Ghosts on the other hand, IMO, are psychic attachments of the deceased to the world, nothing spiritual about it.


So if psychic "energy" isn't spiritual, then what is it?


Um, mental or brain wave energy? Again, nothing spiritual.
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Um, mental or brain wave energy? Again, nothing spiritual.


In that case, ghosts would be made up of electricity, so we should be able to easily detect them (which we can't), and they shouldn't be slow-moving floating masses like they are often described because electricity doesn't wok that way.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Kill099 wrote:


Um, mental or brain wave energy? Again, nothing spiritual.


In that case, ghosts would be made up of electricity, so we should be able to easily detect them (which we can't), and they shouldn't be slow-moving floating masses like they are often described because electricity doesn't wok that way.


Um, how did you arrive to the conclusion that ghosts are made of electricity? How can you say that we can easily detect electricity? Btw, are you sure that ghosts are slow floating masses? Or is that what you've known from watching too much tv?
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