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Why is manga always faster than the anime?
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Posted 10/4/08

allenwalk wrote:

Y does manga always is faster tan anime ??? COME ON MAKE ANIME FASTER PLEASE. zz.......

You are honestly wondering why 16 or so pages of black and white drawings are released faster than 23 minutes of full color, voiced animation?
Usually an episode will cover 2 or 3 issues of a manga so it logically would take AT LEAST 2 or 3 times as long as one issue.
Anime is usually made months in advance, manga less so. Also fansubbing is probably more difficult than scanlating. (although admittedly I don't know too much about the process)...a lot of scan/translation groups will only work on entire volumes or tankobon or whatever they are called, so they can release the chapters closer together that way.


In another sense, I think manga is a lot "slower" than anime because with such limited space, its hard to tell a story, so it can take many issues for anything to get done, whereas anime usually has an amount of conflict/resolution in every episode.
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Azn_gurl wrote:

Because manga comes first...then it becomes adapted to anime if it's popular enough. Then, it goes beyond that with live-actions and movies and licensing.

Though it could go something like this: manga --> license maybe (Amatsuki wasn't licensed but there's still an anime) --> anime if popular enough --> License if popular enough --> Live action or drama if good enough.

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A license is the rights to publish and distribute the works of others. If a magazine published unlicensed manga, or if a studio made an anime without a license, they'd get sued. When people talk about an anime getting licensed they are referring to the right to distribute it in North America and/or make an English version.
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Posted 10/9/08 , edited 10/9/08
because most animes are based on mangas. and mangas are not just faster, they are also better than animes... in my opinion...
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FlavorAmazing wrote:


allenwalk wrote:

Y does manga always is faster tan anime ??? COME ON MAKE ANIME FASTER PLEASE. zz.......

You are honestly wondering why 16 or so pages of black and white drawings are released faster than 23 minutes of full color, voiced animation?
Usually an episode will cover 2 or 3 issues of a manga so it logically would take AT LEAST 2 or 3 times as long as one issue.
Anime is usually made months in advance, manga less so. Also fansubbing is probably more difficult than scanlating. (although admittedly I don't know too much about the process)...a lot of scan/translation groups will only work on entire volumes or tankobon or whatever they are called, so they can release the chapters closer together that way.

In another sense, I think manga is a lot "slower" than anime because with such limited space, its hard to tell a story, so it can take many issues for anything to get done, whereas anime usually has an amount of conflict/resolution in every episode.


that is no reason to insert few useless anime fillers between manga volumes.
and also fansubing is not harder, because there is less amount of text and you don't need to do lots of graphics editing. of course you need to work on timing and if you know japanese translation job takes about same time as anime itself
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I suppose manga is ahead because animators are quite stupid and uncreative. They dont use manga as key frames anyway, and there is no problems to ask mangaka for story of next volume before it is drawn.
(because if you want to make good story you must know its end before you begin anyway)
seems that animators usually are just making something random and then jam all story on last 2-3 episodes.

I think all that is because of price since it is easer to make beach episode or do some random chatter, than animate fights or other action heavy scenes.
so they keep manga ahead to be able to select what is cheaper to animate and more interesting to watch while filling empty space with cheap fillers.
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Posted 10/10/08

Digix wrote:

that is no reason to insert few useless anime fillers between manga volumes.
and also fansubing is not harder, because there is less amount of text and you don't need to do lots of graphics editing. of course you need to work on timing and if you know japanese translation job takes about same time as anime itself
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I suppose manga is ahead because animators are quite stupid and uncreative. They dont use manga as key frames anyway, and there is no problems to ask mangaka for story of next volume before it is drawn.
(because if you want to make good story you must know its end before you begin anyway)
seems that animators usually are just making something random and then jam all story on last 2-3 episodes.

I think all that is because of price since it is easer to make beach episode or do some random chatter, than animate fights or other action heavy scenes.
so they keep manga ahead to be able to select what is cheaper to animate and more interesting to watch while filling empty space with cheap fillers.


Those are some broad (and unflattering) strokes you are using to describe the animation process/community...and anime in general
Its not like they have an unlimited budget and unlimited time. As for calling them stupid, that and uncreative, I want to see the quality of the anime you make. I mean c'mon, its not like you're paying for the stuff.
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If Manga were faster than anime we wouldn't have fillers in anime. Some animes do take from the original story to cut episodes, or finish off with a different ending, but its' not a speed thing. It's just a season thing, you get to make an anime based on this 100 chapter manga and you only get 13 episodes to do it? Really what do you expect (Elfen Lied anyone?)

For animes with bigger budgets, typically stuff based on Shounen Jump mangas (like it or not) they typically don't take away from the original story, in my theory because of the bigger budgets, but put in so much fluff it makes you think they are. There are censors, of course to dumb down violent or inappropriate scenes but that's a little bit different than being slower.
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FlavorAmazing wrote:


Digix wrote:

that is no reason to insert few useless anime fillers between manga volumes.
and also fansubing is not harder, because there is less amount of text and you don't need to do lots of graphics editing. of course you need to work on timing and if you know japanese translation job takes about same time as anime itself
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I suppose manga is ahead because animators are quite stupid and uncreative. They dont use manga as key frames anyway, and there is no problems to ask mangaka for story of next volume before it is drawn.
(because if you want to make good story you must know its end before you begin anyway)
seems that animators usually are just making something random and then jam all story on last 2-3 episodes.

I think all that is because of price since it is easer to make beach episode or do some random chatter, than animate fights or other action heavy scenes.
so they keep manga ahead to be able to select what is cheaper to animate and more interesting to watch while filling empty space with cheap fillers.


Those are some broad (and unflattering) strokes you are using to describe the animation process/community...and anime in general
Its not like they have an unlimited budget and unlimited time. As for calling them stupid, that and uncreative, I want to see the quality of the anime you make. I mean c'mon, its not like you're paying for the stuff.


I agree that this does not apply to all cases since there are some really good series and even those that are made of random episodes can be made well. but we are talking about bad cases here.
Also low budget is not a problem to make episodes about character past, explain why they are acting in one or another way, so that in the end everything would become clear, but instead of that animators choose to make some random nonsense, when before last battle characters go hiking, or play some dumb game. because what better you can do, when all word existence depends on you tomorrow.
that is not even stupid but evil thing to do.

it is easy to make series without these stupid fillers , all you need is to cooperate with original creator, discuss main ideas, and take part of his job on yourself.
of course little creative process is a bit more expensive than uncreative, but by saving very little money you ruin all expensive work.
that is how Chinese do, they save 5$ on 50$ worth product and turn it into total crap.

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um because anime characters makes unnecesary movements and special effects during the show. Animes also add dialouges that aren't directly taken from the manga to make it longer.
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because you get carried away reading you'll forget how much you've actually read
i love Ah! my goddess
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Digix wrote:

I agree that this does not apply to all cases since there are some really good series and even those that are made of random episodes can be made well. but we are talking about bad cases here.
Also low budget is not a problem to make episodes about character past, explain why they are acting in one or another way, so that in the end everything would become clear, but instead of that animators choose to make some random nonsense, when before last battle characters go hiking, or play some dumb game. because what better you can do, when all word existence depends on you tomorrow.
that is not even stupid but evil thing to do.

it is easy to make series without these stupid fillers , all you need is to cooperate with original creator, discuss main ideas, and take part of his job on yourself.
of course little creative process is a bit more expensive than uncreative, but by saving very little money you ruin all expensive work.
that is how Chinese do, they save 5$ on 50$ worth product and turn it into total crap.


Um...you're starting to lose me.
The reason they "do random nonsense" near the end is because usually there isn't enough material in the current story arc for all the remaining episodes, and there would be no point starting a new arc in the second last episode so they delay the story so that it can end with a bang. Yes it is a budget thing too.
You take anime too seriously if you take moral outrage to a lack of entertainment being delivered (they don't owe you anything). Evil? Cmon, listen to yourself.
Again, I don't know why you think its so easy to make anime, how many have you worked on?
I don't know why you think anime producers have some kind of personal grudge against the community and deliberately produce bad products.

Also, the Chinese make things cheaply, Its the American companies that jack up the price to make exorbitant profit off of shoddy goods. They are the ones who save money by using sweatshop labor.
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because manga is anime in book form
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Digix wrote:

I agree that this does not apply to all cases since there are some really good series and even those that are made of random episodes can be made well. but we are talking about bad cases here.
Also low budget is not a problem to make episodes about character past, explain why they are acting in one or another way, so that in the end everything would become clear, but instead of that animators choose to make some random nonsense, when before last battle characters go hiking, or play some dumb game. because what better you can do, when all word existence depends on you tomorrow.
that is not even stupid but evil thing to do.

it is easy to make series without these stupid fillers , all you need is to cooperate with original creator, discuss main ideas, and take part of his job on yourself.
of course little creative process is a bit more expensive than uncreative, but by saving very little money you ruin all expensive work.
that is how Chinese do, they save 5$ on 50$ worth product and turn it into total crap.


Um...you're starting to lose me.
The reason they "do random nonsense" near the end is because usually there isn't enough material in the current story arc for all the remaining episodes, and there would be no point starting a new arc in the second last episode so they delay the story so that it can end with a bang. Yes it is a budget thing too.
You take anime too seriously if you take moral outrage to a lack of entertainment being delivered (they don't owe you anything). Evil? Cmon, listen to yourself.
Again, I don't know why you think its so easy to make anime, how many have you worked on?


Is my English so bad that you don't understand what I say?
You exactly don't need to start new story arcs, but you need to resolve old stuff.
for example you can do some episode about villain's or hero's past. tell everyone why hey do what they do.
if you have not enough manga then you can just extend episodes.


I don't know why you think anime producers have some kind of personal grudge against the community and deliberately produce bad products.

at least one who made Rosen maiden must have. they left everything hanging in the air and expected a demand for season 3
it is basically same as if you end episode in some interesting place and force everyone to watch next episode. I consider that evil thing.



Also, the Chinese make things cheaply, Its the American companies that jack up the price to make exorbitant profit off of shoddy goods. They are the ones who save money by using sweatshop labor.

you probably you dont have experience about that.
imagine that you produce some product. and to make it cheaper you remove nonessential parts.
exampe if we make laptops and remove 4 battery cells(decrease capacity bu 50%) worth 10$ to save a little on 1000$ laptop
or if you produce mp3 player, you save a little by not using LCD connector, and just stick it directly to PCB
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Wow, it's funny to see people giving the same answer five pages long.
Posted 11/7/08 , edited 11/7/08
Because most animes are based on mangas, so the animes come out later. And it's much harder to draw, animate and add in the voices for animes, whereas for mangas, you just have to think of the storyline and draw. I'm not saying it's easy for manga authors though.

So, well, just be patient and be glad that there're actually animes for you to watch.
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um,bcoz animes comes from manga? o.o
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